Is Jaylen Brown Untouchable?

[jmen788]

I will admit Jaylen Brown frustrates me at times with dumb defensive mistakes, getting shots blocked, etc., but he has shown some nice promise and potential. He really isn't getting enough minutes in my opinion so it's hard to accurately judge him because his playing time fluctuates a lot. However, it is clear that he has insane athleticism and an uncanny ability to take it to the hoop and at the very least get to the FT line at will.

I just cringe at all of the trade proposals for people like Butler, where posters throw in Brown like he is a spare part. I really don't want us to have another mistake like with Joe Johnson or even Chauncey Billups for being impatient and short-sighted. No player is truly untouchable but I would only really trade Brown in a deal for someone like Cousins.

Not to digress too much, but it worries me how many people are willing to trade Brown and a Nets pick for Jimmy Butler (it worries me because fan eagerness/impatience can pressure GMs and teams.

Thoughts?

[BE-Celtic]

Every time he gets blocked, he learns one more "bad shot not to take anymore", I think it's part of the process. Got to make mistakes and see what has to be improved.

I really think Celtics should keep him or they will see him become a superstar in another franchise. We have plenty of other assets we can use in a trade, this is not an issue for Danny. I am a big fan of Avery Bradley, but if you need to trade him in order to keep Brown, so be it. Jaylen has just too much potential imo.

Don't trade jaylen for one run at a title, see the long picture.

[Greyman]

Though not untouchable Brown has probably shown enough (game play and attitude) to ensure only a deal that includes someone like Cousins would pry him from Danny's grasp. It's an unfair comparison but if Young can hold a place on the roster, a player with Brown's potential on a rookie contract is safe.

Of course, when placed in the context of the nature of the NBA and the Celtics rebuild, anything can happen. Brown still has a way to go before he becomes a piece that you consider 'untouchable' but he has a number of things in his favour.

[Chris22]

Sign Noel, draft Fultz.

[sdceltsfan]

If the Bulls wanted to do a Brown and salary filler type of deal with another non-BKN 1st, I would make that move. Other than that, there isn't any player we can realistically get that we would be sending Brown off for. Maybe Paul George, but he doesn't seem to be available. When this kid refines his footwork and jump shot, he will be Jimmy Butler. Athleticism is off the charts, and he is still young. I would trade Smart, Crowder or Bradley over Brown.

[LGC88]

You see how he rage when he make a dunk or a tough layup ?
That's what I like about those type of players. He's in a same mold of the Smart, IT, Rozier, etc.
Those players will always make their way.
So now you apply his body and skills to this mentality. The floor of this guy is a starter in a championship team. His ceiling, top 5 or top 10 players in 4 years.
You can't trade this type of player, unless he's a part of a package for a franchise player (AD, Cousins type). I like Butler a lot, but he's not a franchise player. He's a #3 option on a big 3 contender.

[CFAN38]

He is not untouchable but I would value him pretty high. Given what we have seen this season I have no doubt in my mind that he is cant miss in that he will at least be a starting caliber wing in the league. His positional versatility and ability to get to and finish at the rim give him star potential. That being said for the right trade I would trade anyone on this team. 

[SHAQATTACK]

His IQ, mindset will take him further than most with equal physical gifts.

Agree he should be a starting 3 one day with a bright future.

His grit not shying away from a role on the team or on the court impresses me .

He just plays like he belongs on the floor .

Another year or two and he might be mentioned as a untradable core player.

[slamtheking]

He is not untouchable but I would value him pretty high. Given what we have seen this season I have no doubt in my mind that he is cant miss in that he will at least be a starting caliber wing in the league. His positional versatility and ability to get to and finish at the rim give him star potential. That being said for the right trade I would trade anyone on this team. 

This is a pretty spot-on assessment IMHO.

[bopna]

I think this would be an interesting discussion if the question becomes would you give up Jaylen straight up for Ingram?
Or which of his current draft class would you give up Jaylen for?.

[bdm860]

Let's be honest here, fans get too attached to our own players.

If the C's had drafted Bender, or Dunn, or Murray, or Chriss at #3, many C's fans would think they're untouchable instead.  I think most probably wouldn't even trade whoever the C's took at #3 for Ingram at this point.  Had the C's drafted one of them though, I think the overwhelming consensus here would be there's no way the C's should trade whoever they drafted at #3 for Jaylen Brown because the player the C's drafted has star potential!

There's definitely some impartial people out there who think Brown would have gone #8 or #9 if the C's didn't draft him (see here and here).  Had the C's gotten Brown at #8 or #9 instead, suddenly I think some people around here wouldn't think Brown had the same potential.  I wouldn't trade a guy drafted #3 for Butler, but a guy drafted at #9 doesn't have the same potential, so ya I might consider trading him for Butler.

If the C's had Jimmy Butler, I doubt most here would trade him for Brown (well except for the few who always seem to want the C's to tank).

It's similar to Marcus Smart.  Many of the fans wouldn't trade Smart for Aaron Gordon or Julius Randle either.  But had the C's drafted one of them instead and now asked if we should trade one of them for Smart, again most people here would say no way.

It shouldn't matter what # the guy was drafted at or by whom, you want to get the best player.  Very few NBA players no matter where they're drafted turn out as good as Jimmy Butler.  I would definitely trade Brown for Butler.  I don't want to wait and see how Brown develops just because the C's drafted him or he was taken #3, I just want the best player (both now and in the future).

And don't forget for every Joe Johnson for Rodney Rogers or Billups for Kenny Anderson trade, there's a Jeff Green for Ray Allen, a Crowder for Rondo, and a Jefferson/Telfair/Green for Garnett trade.

[oldtype]

Of course not.  I like what he's shown so far, but If the price for Jimmy Butler was just Amir + Jaylen + next year's Brooklyn pick, I'd put him on a bus immediately.

[MBunge]

Let's be honest here, fans get too attached to our own players.

If the C's had drafted Bender, or Dunn, or Murray, or Chriss at #3, many C's fans would think they're untouchable instead. 

Bender and Dunn, especially Dunn, haven't shown anything while playing on awful teams.  If we'd drafted them and Jaylen had gone #4 and was playing like he has, this place would be filled with people ripping Ainge for another "draft mistake."

Chriss, however, would be a future hall-of-famer already if he was on our team.

MIke

[CoachBo]

Let's be honest here, fans get too attached to our own players.

If the C's had drafted Bender, or Dunn, or Murray, or Chriss at #3, many C's fans would think they're untouchable instead.  I think most probably wouldn't even trade whoever the C's took at #3 for Ingram at this point.  Had the C's drafted one of them though, I think the overwhelming consensus here would be there's no way the C's should trade whoever they drafted at #3 for Jaylen Brown because the player the C's drafted has star potential!

There's definitely some impartial people out there who think Brown would have gone #8 or #9 if the C's didn't draft him (see here and here).  Had the C's gotten Brown at #8 or #9 instead, suddenly I think some people around here wouldn't think Brown had the same potential.  I wouldn't trade a guy drafted #3 for Butler, but a guy drafted at #9 doesn't have the same potential, so ya I might consider trading him for Butler.

If the C's had Jimmy Butler, I doubt most here would trade him for Brown (well except for the few who always seem to want the C's to tank).

It's similar to Marcus Smart.  Many of the fans wouldn't trade Smart for Aaron Gordon or Julius Randle either.  But had the C's drafted one of them instead and now asked if we should trade one of them for Smart, again most people here would say no way.

It shouldn't matter what # the guy was drafted at or by whom, you want to get the best player.  Very few NBA players no matter where they're drafted turn out as good as Jimmy Butler.  I would definitely trade Brown for Butler.  I don't want to wait and see how Brown develops just because the C's drafted him or he was taken #3, I just want the best player (both now and in the future).

And don't forget for every Joe Johnson for Rodney Rogers or Billups for Kenny Anderson trade, there's a Jeff Green for Ray Allen, a Crowder for Rondo, and a Jefferson/Telfair/Green for Garnett trade.

Great post. TP. Although, I could have done without the Sebustian Telfailure memories.

Beyond Thomas, no one on this roster is untouchable.

Not even close to untouchable, the fanboy routine aside. Brown has a LONG way to go to develop to actual third pick value.

[tankcity!]

I would've been happy to trade Kris Dunn

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2991139/kris-dunn

His stats are really bad. Keep in mind he's 22 years old. He was supposed to be seasoned and NBA ready. I think some Celtics fans are genuine in when they say Brown could turn into a stud.

Why would I trade him for Cousins? His contract will expire soon and he wants to resign with the Kings. They're both toxic imo.

People already know how I feel about Butler.

I want Davis, Embiid, Towns, Porzingis. Give me those guys and you can have Jaylen and Brooklyn picks.