Why the Melo trade is Perfect

[manl_lui]

depends how cheap. I am all for it, but I really do not want to give up too much like NY did initially when they went all in for Melo when he was with Denver, leaving us nothing to build on.

For starters, I will NOT include any of the BKN picks. The reason why is Melo is 32 years old, so our window is very very small. Add Horford on top of that who is also 30, if we give us too much and it doesn't work out, we will be in limbo.

The Melo/Amar'e/Chandler project didn't work, so I don't expect IT/Melo/Horford to be that much better than that trio in the long term.

Not to mention, getting Melo means we will need to part ways with either Smart/Brown/Crowder or at least 2 of them, now if we can get Melo without giving up 2 of those guys (Preferably Smart to stay) that would be great, as I believe Smart if playing with Melo, can IT can be an amazing thing. A defensive guy who can create offsense by playing hard nose defense. Something Melo doesn't really have atm. And we have Bradley and Smart.

[Ogaju]

you guys got suckered in without reading the OP's second post. This is just another Ball thread. He thinks Ball and Melo win a championship next year. That is what this thread is really all about.

Fultz is better.

[A Future of Stevens]

you guys got suckered in without reading the OP's second post. This is just another Ball thread. He thinks Ball and Melo win a championship next year. That is what this thread is really all about.

Fultz is better.

Second

[seancally]

Right - the key operative in this thread is the idea that we'd keep the picks. Realistically, the chances are low that we will do all three of:

- Acquire a big-name trade target
- Keep both BKN picks
- Retain cap space to sign a FA this summer

So if we can pull off the first two and not the third, I'm fine with that. Free agency is a crapshoot. Trades a usually a sure-thing, in terms of knowing what you're getting. And the 2017 draft is looking to be about as surefire as it gets.

If Carmelo flames out in 3 years, that's fine, under these terms. Because by then we will have potentially 3, and likely at least 2, top-5 studs from the draft in tow. Yeah, we'll need to figure out what to do with our young, high-value contracts like AB and Crowder. That doesn't change anyway. They remain great assets for now.

We're (now) a top-2 seed in the conference, and looking at a possibility to add Carmelo Anthony for next to nothing. That gives you a seat at the table without sacrificing your future. You have to do that.

[CelticGuardian]

you guys got suckered in without reading the OP's second post. This is just another Ball thread. He thinks Ball and Melo win a championship next year. That is what this thread is really all about.

Fultz is better.

Second

Geez... can draft night get here already!?

[KG Living Legend]

you guys got suckered in without reading the OP's second post. This is just another Ball thread. He thinks Ball and Melo win a championship next year. That is what this thread is really all about.

Fultz is better.

 Stop with this Fultz is better every time stuff.

 No shoot Sherlock. Hes ranked #1 everywhere.

[Bobshot]

Worth it, if they can get him cheap--for low draft picks. Phil needs draft picks. Ainge has a ton of them.

Opportunity if the price is right may be hard to pass up. Basically a 2 year contract. Age is much less a factor. The guy can play. Puts them past Raptors, and respectable against top 2 o3 teams.

Ainge keeps Nets picks and Brown for the future.

He's probably thinking about Butler, but he's going to cost a Nets pick and Crowder. Better off with Anthony?

But he'll need a rebounder, too.

[Stig]

The Stars have aligned. You Never get a chance at an NBA Superstar for cheap.

 Ainge is a genius if this goes down. Zeller and Amir work in the machine, add some crappy firsts and a scrub like Young and your insane if you don't do it.

 We need a second Star in the Playoffs. Carmelo fills that roll.

 We were never going to Win a ring until 2019. Now we actually can compete for a title every year? Are you kidding me?

 What do we want to save the Cap room for? Milsap? He won't sign here. Go get Carmelo. We are so spoiled.

 If we get Carmelo, we will win the #1 seed. Think about that. We may not beat the Cavs, but the plot thickens and it gets much more interesting.

I agree that Milsap and Gordon Hayward are unlikely to sign anywhere else than their own team. Especially Hayward, the Jazz is as good  a team as Celtics.

Besides, if we do sign Gordon Hayward, what do we do with Jae Crowder? Hayward can only play 3, with that incident earlier I don't think Crowder would want to be a backup of Hayward, we'd have to send Crowder away for cheap. While Melo can play 4, and he's probably better at 4 these days, allowing us to keep Crowder at his place.

You can't diminish your chances of getting good players in free agency based on uncertainty and fear. Hayward is not a lock to stay.
It depends on a lot of variables in the future and basic one is having about 30 million in cap space.
Hayward's fine versatility would allow him to play 1-4. Versatile guys are easier to incorporate than specialists. Also, he is an O.K. defensive player, that also helps a lot in securing the rotation minutes and playing in different lineups.
In today's game, you can ALWAYS play together multiple wings that can both defend and shoot. Heck, Embiid, AD, Towns and such, could play with 3 or even 4 (if there is a guy like KCP on the roster to defend quick guards) of those guys together.
Melo is simply worse than him in almost all aspects than posting up and shooting staredown mid-rangers. His knees are not young anymore so he can't get to the line as he did. His rebounding % are expectedly dropping too. It is easy to pump yourself up on a big name, but sobering moment comes quickly after realising they are not as good as they were or what we would like them to be.

It goes both ways, I don't think Hayward is the type of player you hold on all your moves just to wait for him to make up his mind, that type of privilege is reserved to KD level talent, Hayward isn't that good. There isn't anyone that good this summer. The strongest indication that Hayward might want to join the C's is the Stevens connection,  and even if we are on his shortlist this summer, do you think Angie and Stevens will suggest to him that he'd have to play a different position so Crowder won't complain? on top of giving up millions of $ and a good young team?

I agree Hayward is better than Melo at this moment, but to get Melo's service cheap for two years is not that much worse than getting Hayward's for 4 years. The NBA champion has nothing to do with us in the next 2 years anyway.