Carmelo Anthony Saga: Analyzing This Summer For The Boston Celtics

[jpotter33]

14 mins ago – via New York Post
A report out of Boston, in contradiction to an ESPN story from Friday, stated the Celtics still have some interest, but as previously reported by The Post, Boston has no intention of giving up any of the first-round picks it controls from the Nets. They have their own picks that could work in a deal along with expiring contracts of Amir Johnson and Jonas Jerebko. Jackson is known to like defensive forward Jae Crowder. The Boston report stated the Knicks had a pro scout at the Celtics game in Milwaukee Saturday.

I think between the two separate reports linking Melo and the C's today that this legitimately could go down, as long as the price is right.

Danny has to be realizing that our other preferred trade targets, i.e. Boogie, Butler, and George, just aren't going to be available before the deadline, and the only other significant upgrade would be Noel, who I'm not sure Danny is high on. Other players like Vucevic and Bogut, who I doubt is bought out or traded at this point, are also lesser options to Melo.

And with regard to free agency, I just don't see us making any significant splash, and if we did it would most likely be Ibaka or Milsap, who I just don't see as better fits than Melo, especially offensively.

An offense of IT, Bradley, Crowder, Melo, and Al is about as dynamic as you can get, and I honestly think our defense would improve a bit over the disaster that was the Al/Amir pairing with Al actually getting back to his natural center position.

[Chris22]

Like Rondo, let Melo ruin someone else's team.

[Moranis]

Where is the poll option for you've always wanted to acquire Anthony?  That one is me.

[Phantom255x]

Where is the poll option for you've always wanted to acquire Anthony?  That one is me.

My bad, it's just.. Umm... Well you know how rare it is to find that guy who has always wanted Carmelo lol.

I figured like 95% of this forum did not want him.

[Moranis]

Where is the poll option for you've always wanted to acquire Anthony?  That one is me.

My bad, it's just.. Umm... Well you know how rare it is to find that guy who has always wanted Carmelo lol.

I figured like 95% of this forum did not want him.

Well always is a strong word, but basically since it became apparent he was available, I wanted to acquire him.  He fills a major need of this team and is a better "free agent" signing than anyone I believe Boston will acquire this summer, so I had no issue with his contract.

[LilRip]

Where is the poll option for you've always wanted to acquire Anthony?  That one is me.

My bad, it's just.. Umm... Well you know how rare it is to find that guy who has always wanted Carmelo lol.

I figured like 95% of this forum did not want him.

Well always is a strong word, but basically since it became apparent he was available, I wanted to acquire him.  He fills a major need of this team and is a better "free agent" signing than anyone I believe Boston will acquire this summer, so I had no issue with his contract.

I'm in the same boat. I'm generally onboard with the Melo trade and have been since it was leaked. Not the biggest Melo fan by any stretch but I can see the sense behind it, particularly if he comes without giving up much assets.

[LGC88]

Carmelo is a 2 years rental for championship illusion.
I hope everybody get that right before throwing any assets.
If we have to give expiring contracts and non nets pick, why not, but other than that, I don't see the urge to be a delusional contender.

[hpantazo]

Carmelo is a 2 years rental for championship illusion.
I hope everybody get that right before throwing any assets.
If we have to give expiring contracts and non nets pick, why not, but other than that, I don't see the urge to be a delusional contender.

If we get him without giving up serious assets like the Nets picks or Brown or Smart then I don't see the problem in this. He's a legit star, top tier scorer and and underrated rebounder. Basically he fills two big needs. If we get Melo and pick up a guy like Bogut we are legit contenders for 2-3 years AND we still build an amazing foundation for the future with Brown, Smart, and both Nets picks.

If it has become pretty clear to Ainge that we are not getting Cousins or any other young star that would make us a contender, then contending with an older cast for 2-3 years while still keeping our future foundation is a clear win.

[Moranis]

Carmelo is a 2 years rental for championship illusion.
I hope everybody get that right before throwing any assets.
If we have to give expiring contracts and non nets pick, why not, but other than that, I don't see the urge to be a delusional contender.

If we get him without giving up serious assets like the Nets picks or Brown or Smart then I don't see the problem in this. He's a legit star, top tier scorer and and underrated rebounder. Basically he fills two big needs. If we get Melo and pick up a guy like Bogut we are legit contenders for 2-3 years AND we still build an amazing foundation for the future with Brown, Smart, and both Nets picks.

I'd be fine giving up Brown or Smart if O'Quinn also came with Anthony because frankly I can't see Brown (and Smart to a lesser extent) getting much playing time with Anthony around anyway.  Why let a guy that wouldn't play hold a trade that puts Boston up a clear level in talent.  It just doesn't make much sense to me.

[chambers]

f you can get him for something like:
Amir
Zeller
Young
2nd round picks

Then it's worth serious consideration.
I believe if we dont use the max contract this summer we will lose it resigning our guys anyway.
Yeah he's 32 but it's only 2 years on his deal.
Salt or someone will confirm if they hopefully read this thread.

He'd play PF and Horford would play C.

IT
AB
Crowder
Melo
Horford

KO
Smart
Rozier
Green
Mickey

Leaves us very thin in the paint but much better scoring and 3 point shooting team.
We have just signed Horford's old ass. Why not add another legitimate scoring star?
The guy just wants to go deep in the playoffs and he's lost a lot of focus in the past few seasons. It's been tough since Amare went down in a pile of bricks over there- their management has one of the worst records in the modern NBA of simply piling crap upon crap on him.

Playing in the greatest city in the world for an amazing fanbase doing what you love, but yet again being let down by Dolan and now Phil Jackson? Phil said he wanted to build a contender around Melo and look what he gave him....Noah and Rose and two of the most untradeable contracts of completely washed up stars.

Melo is a guy who would give us a punchers chance vs Cleveland and likely make us big favorites over Toronto and making the ECF.

[hpantazo]

Also, if we trade Amir and Zeller away for Melo, and Ainge can't get Bogut or someone comparable, then I see him reconsidering signing Sanders.

[chambers]

Carmelo is a 2 years rental for championship illusion.
I hope everybody get that right before throwing any assets.
If we have to give expiring contracts and non nets pick, why not, but other than that, I don't see the urge to be a delusional contender.

If we get him without giving up serious assets like the Nets picks or Brown or Smart then I don't see the problem in this. He's a legit star, top tier scorer and and underrated rebounder. Basically he fills two big needs. If we get Melo and pick up a guy like Bogut we are legit contenders for 2-3 years AND we still build an amazing foundation for the future with Brown, Smart, and both Nets picks.

I'd be fine giving up Brown or Smart if O'Quinn also came with Anthony because frankly I can't see Brown (and Smart to a lesser extent) getting much playing time with Anthony around anyway.  Why let a guy that wouldn't play hold a trade that puts Boston up a clear level in talent.  It just doesn't make much sense to me.

I agree with you about Melo still being a great player. Imagine if we'd had him when he was 28 or 29 years old a few years ago.

Now what to give up to get him? On this I am in absolute, 120%, universal disagreement with you on that one.
Sending Marcus or Jaylen would be an enormous mistake. In fact we simply won't take him if he costs that much.

They are limited in their options with his enormous salary, no trade clause, trade kicker and the ability to basically to be traded to whoever he wants that wants him.
We are one of a few teams who can do this.
Doc can offer his son, Crawford and Diamond Stone.

We can offer better than that.
At the very most I think something like:
Rozier+
Young+
Amir+Jerebko
2019 Clippers pick.

at an absolute maximum, and I mean absolute max.

[Somebody]

Carmelo is a 2 years rental for championship illusion.
I hope everybody get that right before throwing any assets.
If we have to give expiring contracts and non nets pick, why not, but other than that, I don't see the urge to be a delusional contender.

If we get him without giving up serious assets like the Nets picks or Brown or Smart then I don't see the problem in this. He's a legit star, top tier scorer and and underrated rebounder. Basically he fills two big needs. If we get Melo and pick up a guy like Bogut we are legit contenders for 2-3 years AND we still build an amazing foundation for the future with Brown, Smart, and both Nets picks.

I'd be fine giving up Brown or Smart if O'Quinn also came with Anthony because frankly I can't see Brown (and Smart to a lesser extent) getting much playing time with Anthony around anyway.  Why let a guy that wouldn't play hold a trade that puts Boston up a clear level in talent.  It just doesn't make much sense to me.

I agree with you about Melo still being a great player. Imagine if we'd had him when he was 28 or 29 years old a few years ago.

Now what to give up to get him? On this I am in absolute, 120%, universal disagreement with you on that one.
Sending Marcus or Jaylen would be an enormous mistake. In fact we simply won't take him if he costs that much.

They are limited in their options with his enormous salary, no trade clause, trade kicker and the ability to basically to be traded to whoever he wants that wants him.
We are one of a few teams who can do this.
Doc can offer his son, Crawford and Diamond Stone.

We can offer better than that.
At the very most I think something like:
Rozier+
Young+
Amir+Jerebko
2019 Clippers pick.

at an absolute maximum, and I mean absolute max.

This.TP. Pretty funny for guys who say we wear green tinted glasses find out that they have a severe case of the grass is always greener on the other side when evaluating our players with others.

[Darío SpanishFan]

f you can get him for something like:
Amir
Zeller
Young
2nd round picks

Then it's worth serious consideration.
I believe if we dont use the max contract this summer we will lose it resigning our guys anyway.
Yeah he's 32 but it's only 2 years on his deal.
Salt or someone will confirm if they hopefully read this thread.

He'd play PF and Horford would play C.

IT
AB
Crowder
Melo
Horford

KO
Smart
Rozier
Green
Mickey

Leaves us very thin in the paint but much better scoring and 3 point shooting team.
We have just signed Horford's old ass. Why not add another legitimate scoring star?
The guy just wants to go deep in the playoffs and he's lost a lot of focus in the past few seasons. It's been tough since Amare went down in a pile of bricks over there- their management has one of the worst records in the modern NBA of simply piling crap upon crap on him.

Playing in the greatest city in the world for an amazing fanbase doing what you love, but yet again being let down by Dolan and now Phil Jackson? Phil said he wanted to build a contender around Melo and look what he gave him....Noah and Rose and two of the most untradeable contracts of completely washed up stars.

Melo is a guy who would give us a punchers chance vs Cleveland and likely make us big favorites over Toronto and making the ECF.

This is a very reasonable point and deserves a TP.
What's more, I think that if Danny doesn't pull the trigger now regarding Anthony, it is because he has complete confidence and inside tracking (agents, common friends or whoever) about getting Millsap or Hayward next summer with no asset in return.

[JBcat]

I'm starting to come around on the idea of Melo as long we don't give up our major assets, and we play him at the 4.  I was reading an article on ESPN, and he has defended 4s reasonably well over the past 4 years.  His rebounding is probably subpar for a 4, but can't be any worse than Amir there.  He would also take a little bit less of the scoring load here which would only help him.  He has shot 42% on open 3's this season, and he would get more open looks with us.

From a pure minutes standpoint if Amir and JJ were involved in the deal they play a combined 37 minutes a game so you're mostly consolidating most of those minutes for Melo.  It would be nice if we could get another interior player like Bogut too.

We would still save our major assets to either trade for another star, or to just develop.