If the Celts cant get past the 1st round of the playoffs again..

[Tr1boy]

What needs to happen?

Should cbs job be in jeopardy?

Think long and hard before resigning IT4 to big money?

See what you can get for Horford?

Thoughts

[dwlefty13]

What needs to happen?

Should cbs job be in jeopardy?

Think long and hard before resigning IT4 to big money?

See what you can get for Horford?

Thoughts

Brad's job is secure, he will leave when he decides. As for IT, I think there will be some thought about the potential financial cost to offer him considering he will be in his 30's for the majority of the contract. Depending on how the league is and other moves by other teams, Danny may be force to give IT a big contract just to stay competitive.

As for Horford, the whole point of signing him max money is to make Boston a playoff contender in the East and add legitimacy that the C's can big name sign free agents. If anything I think Danny and management will look at where that BKN pick lands and evaluate which star player is out there to make a push in the East.

[Who]

Stay on the same road. The team is in good shape.

[Donoghus]

Stay on the same road. The team is in good shape.

Yup.

[Tr1boy]

Stay on the same road. The team is in good shape.

Even after 3 consecutive years of 1st round exits?

[Tr1boy]

What needs to happen?

Should cbs job be in jeopardy?

Think long and hard before resigning IT4 to big money?

See what you can get for Horford?

Thoughts

Brad's job is secure, he will leave when he decides. As for IT, I think there will be some thought about the potential financial cost to offer him considering he will be in his 30's for the majority of the contract. Depending on how the league is and other moves by other teams, Danny may be force to give IT a big contract just to stay competitive.

As for Horford, the whole point of signing him max money is to make Boston a playoff contender in the East and add legitimacy that the C's can big name sign free agents. If anything I think Danny and management will look at where that BKN pick lands and evaluate which star player is out there to make a push in the East.

Cbs has not done nearly enough to have the power to coach until whenever he feels like it

[Who]

Stay on the same road. The team is in good shape.

Even after 3 consecutive years of 1st round exits?

Yes. The team has improved significantly year-to-year and has lots of flexibility to improve further. No need for a drastic change of course.

[dwlefty13]

What needs to happen?

Should cbs job be in jeopardy?

Think long and hard before resigning IT4 to big money?

See what you can get for Horford?

Thoughts

Brad's job is secure, he will leave when he decides. As for IT, I think there will be some thought about the potential financial cost to offer him considering he will be in his 30's for the majority of the contract. Depending on how the league is and other moves by other teams, Danny may be force to give IT a big contract just to stay competitive.

As for Horford, the whole point of signing him max money is to make Boston a playoff contender in the East and add legitimacy that the C's can big name sign free agents. If anything I think Danny and management will look at where that BKN pick lands and evaluate which star player is out there to make a push in the East.

Cbs has not done nearly enough to have the power to coach until whenever he feels like it

I agree, poor choice of words. I think Brad's job is pretty secure minus losing the locker room and his players not responding to him anymore. I don't envision him fired or on the hot seat with a first round exit though.

[Donoghus]

Stay on the same road. The team is in good shape.

Even after 3 consecutive years of 1st round exits?

It's not an ideal situation but it's also a scenario that shouldn't lead to overreaction, either. 

This team is setup quite well going forward and is building with a still upward trajectory.   Blowing this thing up would be a horrible idea.   

The day is coming where major decisions will need to be made.  But this coming summer isn't that time.

[Donoghus]

Stay on the same road. The team is in good shape.

Even after 3 consecutive years of 1st round exits?

So what would you do in this scenario?  What's the triboy16 plan of course?

[manl_lui]

Stay on the same road. The team is in good shape.

Yup.

I third that, in my honest opinion, if we face Charlotte or Washington we should head to the 2nd round.

What needs to happen?

Should cbs job be in jeopardy?

Think long and hard before resigning IT4 to big money?

See what you can get for Horford?

Thoughts

Brad's job is secure, he will leave when he decides. As for IT, I think there will be some thought about the potential financial cost to offer him considering he will be in his 30's for the majority of the contract. Depending on how the league is and other moves by other teams, Danny may be force to give IT a big contract just to stay competitive.

As for Horford, the whole point of signing him max money is to make Boston a playoff contender in the East and add legitimacy that the C's can big name sign free agents. If anything I think Danny and management will look at where that BKN pick lands and evaluate which star player is out there to make a push in the East.

Cbs has not done nearly enough to have the power to coach until whenever he feels like it

but in my honest opinion or at least it feels that way that Danny is giving him that option or having the patience to do it. I think Brad is here for the long run. There are still huge holes that needs to be filled in this team like rebounding and having a very reliable go-to scorer to take that load off of IT4. Danny is not done working and he probably knows this as well as anyone, but i think management/Danny/Brad all knows this

as for IT's extension i do agree, we will need to evaluate the extension we are giving him which will probably get him past his 30 and if his current scoring tear is sustainable long term. I think it is, if we can surround him with the right pieces or at least another go-to scorer.

Danny has been getting a lot of criticism with his drafting but recent threads about Zizic makes us fans kind of excited and hoping he nailed the Yabu and Zizic draft. Which is another reason i think we are not in a hurry to push the panic button until we at least see some sort of action from these two bigs. While I think we may stand pat at the trade deadline, I do think Danny will call and make some huge decision moving forward during the offseason the very latest to start clearing roster space

[jpotter33]

Barring injuries, if we can't get past the first round again this postseason, especially if we have homecourt advantage, then I think it's clear that in the summer of 2018 we need to take another direction, i.e. not resign IT and AB to big money and move forward with our younger core, especially if we get a guard to pair with Smart in this upcoming draft.

That doesn't mean we blow it up this summer, and that also doesn't mean that we should forego signing vet free agents like Noel, Hayward, Griffin, Milsap, etc.

However, it does mean that we shouldn't blow our future assets, specifically the Brooklyn picks, for marginal upgrades to our current roster that is inherently flawed. That'd give us a full extra year, or at least half a season before the trade deadline, to evaluate the upgraded roster with the additions we made over the summer, and we should have a pretty clear picture of what direction we should be heading in by the summer of 2018.

To me, all else being equal, if we don't make the ECF by next year's playoffs, then I don't want to resign IT and AB and would rather move forward with our young core.

[CelticGuardian]

Stay on the same road. The team is in good shape.

Even after 3 consecutive years of 1st round exits?

Yes. The team has improved significantly year-to-year and has lots of flexibility to improve further. No need for a drastic change of course.

Uhh... So there will be no worries on how exactly they seem okay to great in the reg.season but fumble in the playoffs? Could be a more deeply rooted issue besides "superstar X isn't here yet." This roster in the East should get past the 1st round considering our system execution with Horford and the improved shooting around IT.

[PhoSita]

So much depends on context.

Do they get swept, or lose in 7 on a last second shot?

Did they have all their key guys healthy, or was somebody missing?

Did they lose despite their best players performing, or did the top guys fall flat?

No matter what, I think Brad's job is safe.  That said, if they fail in the 1st round and it's a convincing loss, that might change Danny's willingness to give up assets to take a step closer to contending, as opposed to simply making all the picks and developing the young guys.

[guava_wrench]

I am skeptical of how effective IT can be when it comes to winning in the playoffs, especially with AB also being short. For this reason, I would not do anything drastic if we lose to a 6th seed but I might be conservative in how much money I commit to having IT and AB together in he backcourt. I like them both a lot, but that isn't enough.

Coaching is fine. There is no reason to change coaches when the replacement would likely be inferior to Stevens. Stevens has the brain for it, he gets along with ownership and the GM, and his players respect him. He is not going anywhere.

The Celtics have overperformed under Stevens. Celtics management is very level-headed and recognize this. We have an excellent ownership group that managed to give the organization a feeling of stability in the midst of a drastic rebuild (where I believe only AB on the current roster actually played with KG).

MIL, IND, and WAS could all be tough matchups if they hit their stride as each has at least one player who could be on the elite level come playoffs (Giannis, George, Wall).