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Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #2100 on: December 07, 2019, 08:50:34 AM »

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they lost Reddick/Butler...those two guys averaged 18ppg each last year.....everyone was gushing about the addition of horford but neglected to mention they lost 36ppg in scoring.

Horford gives you alot in terms of rebounding/defending/assists....but the guy only averaged 13ppg. players like butler dont grow on trees. I feel like you always take the all-star scorer over need (bigs to backup embiid)

yeah the GM needs to be fired .  Embiid expected to,carry the load , and we know he is a accident waiting to happen every game.  Keeping Harris , was a mistake , over rated ,  they should have kept at least one of Butler or Reddick to help with scoring.  Oh , alot of arm chair GMs saw this coming , yo d thunk a million dollar GM would have ?

Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #2101 on: December 08, 2019, 10:00:44 AM »

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they lost Reddick/Butler...those two guys averaged 18ppg each last year.....everyone was gushing about the addition of horford but neglected to mention they lost 36ppg in scoring.

Horford gives you alot in terms of rebounding/defending/assists....but the guy only averaged 13ppg. players like butler dont grow on trees. I feel like you always take the all-star scorer over need (bigs to backup embiid)

yeah the GM needs to be fired .  Embiid expected to,carry the load , and we know he is a accident waiting to happen every game.  Keeping Harris , was a mistake , over rated ,  they should have kept at least one of Butler or Reddick to help with scoring.  Oh , alot of arm chair GMs saw this coming , yo d thunk a million dollar GM would have ?
Scoring isn't really a problem for them.  I mean they scored 141 yesterday without Embiid or Richardson.  I know it was Cleveland, but the reality is they score a bunch against a lot of teams (even when they lose).
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Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #2102 on: December 08, 2019, 10:11:39 AM »

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they lost Reddick/Butler...those two guys averaged 18ppg each last year.....everyone was gushing about the addition of horford but neglected to mention they lost 36ppg in scoring.

Horford gives you alot in terms of rebounding/defending/assists....but the guy only averaged 13ppg. players like butler dont grow on trees. I feel like you always take the all-star scorer over need (bigs to backup embiid)

yeah the GM needs to be fired .  Embiid expected to,carry the load , and we know he is a accident waiting to happen every game.  Keeping Harris , was a mistake , over rated ,  they should have kept at least one of Butler or Reddick to help with scoring.  Oh , alot of arm chair GMs saw this coming , yo d thunk a million dollar GM would have ?
Scoring isn't really a problem for them.  I mean they scored 141 yesterday without Embiid or Richardson.  I know it was Cleveland, but the reality is they score a bunch against a lot of teams (even when they lose).
^this. Their problem is resilient scoring that still holds against stingy defences, but their defence will probably keep them in playoff games. They're still very much a contender, let's not act like they're some Cinderella team.
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Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #2103 on: December 08, 2019, 11:42:43 AM »

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they lost Reddick/Butler...those two guys averaged 18ppg each last year.....everyone was gushing about the addition of horford but neglected to mention they lost 36ppg in scoring.

Horford gives you alot in terms of rebounding/defending/assists....but the guy only averaged 13ppg. players like butler dont grow on trees. I feel like you always take the all-star scorer over need (bigs to backup embiid)

yeah the GM needs to be fired .  Embiid expected to,carry the load , and we know he is a accident waiting to happen every game.  Keeping Harris , was a mistake , over rated ,  they should have kept at least one of Butler or Reddick to help with scoring.  Oh , alot of arm chair GMs saw this coming , yo d thunk a million dollar GM would have ?
Scoring isn't really a problem for them.  I mean they scored 141 yesterday without Embiid or Richardson.  I know it was Cleveland, but the reality is they score a bunch against a lot of teams (even when they lose).
^this. Their problem is resilient scoring that still holds against stingy defences, but their defence will probably keep them in playoff games. They're still very much a contender, let's not act like they're some Cinderella team.
The Sixers are certainly a contender.  The Sixers are at the top of the league in defense and rebounding.  They're offense isn't great but it is pretty good.  They appear to have addressed their biggest issue which was their huge dropoff when Embiid isn't on court.   

People don't take into account the time it takes players to gel together.  Horford and Richardson are new and Harris only came over at the trade deadline.  Butler gets talked about a lot but losing Redick was a bigger loss for them.  Redick was a great fit and really worked well with Embiid in their half court offense. 

Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #2104 on: December 08, 2019, 01:14:36 PM »

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Man, I just don't see JJ Redick as that big of a loss. His offense was really good but his defense was terrible. Look at New Orleans - how much of a difference is he making there?

I'd much rather have Josh Richardson. A strong defensive player and good offensive player. A two way player.

The way people talk about JJ Redick is of the player he was 5 years ago (when he was still an adequate albeit below average defender). Not the player he is today (lousy defender). Redick was Philly's worst defender. He got torched by anyone they tried to hide him on.

Their perimeter play has improved (thanks to Josh Richardson) without him (Redick).

Re: All Things Philadelphia 76ers (merged Sixers threads)
« Reply #2105 on: December 08, 2019, 01:51:06 PM »

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Man, I just don't see JJ Redick as that big of a loss. His offense was really good but his defense was terrible. Look at New Orleans - how much of a difference is he making there?

I'd much rather have Josh Richardson. A strong defensive player and good offensive player. A two way player.

The way people talk about JJ Redick is of the player he was 5 years ago (when he was still an adequate albeit below average defender). Not the player he is today (lousy defender). Redick was Philly's worst defender. He got torched by anyone they tried to hide him on.

Their perimeter play has improved (thanks to Josh Richardson) without him (Redick).
I agree that the Sixers are better off with Richardson than Redick.  Redick did get torched by us 2 playoffs ago but the Raptors didn't torch him last playoffs.  Redick is doing fine in NOP (15pts in 28min, 46% on 7 3PA) but I don't understand why they overpaid to get him.  He's a good role player for a contender.  He's not going to move the needle for a young team. 

My statement was in regards to Butler and Redick.  I just don't think Butler is much of a loss for the Sixers.  Butler was a poor fit with Harris and Simmons.  He wasn't that good of a fit with Embiid.   Redick on the other hand was a great fit offensively and a lot of their half court offense was from the Redick/Embiid DHOs.  If they could have retained Redick to come of the bench, they'd be sitting pretty.  Right now with Richardson out, they are having to start Korkmaz whose 4th year option they didn't pick up.