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the genius of isaiah thomas
« on: December 16, 2016, 10:15:38 PM »

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enjoy the gift of him playing for celtics
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2016, 10:31:34 PM »

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The little guy......

He and  Horford are looking like a good pairing. Bread and Butter right now.  Little guy and Big guy.

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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2016, 10:35:50 PM »

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yes, rollie, yes! more IT love please!!!
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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2016, 05:30:29 AM »

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i felt so bad when critics started their campaign of trade isaiah
what that guy brings to game on and off court the last two years
his ability to taunt and demoralize opponents bigs
drawing fouls furthers the teams as opponents get in foul trouble
rozier is watching isaiah get to the hoop could you get a better point scorer to learn from

we fans should belittle those critics as saboteurs of bostons teams
a industry of fools that derive their income from attacking those that can do
i see things like explosive ,mezmerizing,exhilarating, taunting,-the feints,change of pace and direction ,his magic at the glass,did you see that pass to end the game

you professional critics need to take a long look at yourself

i'm not in denial i have selective reality

 






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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2016, 08:19:07 AM »

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The media is a crazy train Rollie. I've been saying this for years though.

Ainge traded for IT and Crowder. Even Amir.  None of these guys are on the block per sey.

IT is the catalyst on this team.

I don't mind people suggesting things though.  People will sell you on ideas that aren't it though.  Stick to your guns.

I used to be worse than you are.  Or better.  I'll at least listen to ideas but I get what you are saying.

This team is being built with IT being the catalyst being able to get to the basket and create as we spread the floor.

I'm nicer than you are at this point.  I agree though. The media is annoying.

This team should be enjoyed for what it is not for what it's not.  Or both. 

I love me some Marcus too. Why can't we just have both lol. Ying to IT's yang. Rozier too. All of them. KO is still  young.  Horford.  Crowder. Jaylen.  Even James Young.

Ainge will figure it out.

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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2016, 08:24:39 AM »

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Someone told me a while ago we need so and so.  Durant was our target.  No one is untradeable I was told.  I still say players on this team are more untradeable than tradeable and the goal  is to get a guy like IT up in the rafters and to retire here.  Some guys may not be  here forever as we adjust.  Even Pierce and KG weren't.  This is where Ainge differs from Red but I like to think we are getting back to the loyalty the celtics used to show.

Ainge got scared with Bird's injuries.  LEn Bias's death. Reggie Lewis. It's a different game now though. Better medical care etc.

The goal should be to get these guys in the rafters.

Ainge is a realist that way but also an idealist.  I used to be much more an idealist but am open to different things.  That's not to say I would do those things.

Felger suggested we are better without IT.  People fight him on it. It is what it is. It's just a lot of talk.

Some people are really trying to sabotage us but others aren't.

The way i see it I just try to annoy those people in reverse. In reality I love watching the games and am one of the most positive people about what this team is trying to do.

I was listenig to IT and his reaction to rumors.  There are so many ridiculous rumors out there not just about IT but a lot of guys on this team. 

We are getting back to what we used to do  l earning when to turn it up and when to do what.  That's what great teams do.  Make it look easy and then drive it down their throat. 

IT is young and if it motivates him good.  There are smart people out there though that get what this team is doing.  I feel the same way he does sometimes.  I know who I am. Not worried about it.

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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2016, 08:39:47 AM »

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We have a lot of good players.  Teams should want our players too.  We just aren't trading them for something that doesn't fit what we are trying to do.

When Red would light up a cigar it basically was that.  A lot of work and tweaking and adjusting and ultimately success. For the city and fans and everyone. Red was basically trash talking but on a deeper level than that.

When I used to go to the garden Red was always the first guy I would spot. I remember watching pierce have a great game and listening the fans chanting for Greg Oden as Pierce was playing his heart out in a loss as Al J and Wally Szerbiak were consoling him.

that really p---ed me off.  I felt like the only fan who saw this.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200611290BOS.html

The chants for Oden were strong that game.   A lot of people thought we should trade Pierce too.

different time and different players though.  I wanted Durant then anyways and when we went after him here.  Boogie isn't Oden here but has some injury concerns.  It will be alright.

I listened to fans boo AB, Smart and Jaylen too.  I wanted all these guys.  Embiid chants galore.  Wiggins.   It will  be alright.  Buddy Hield was everyones binkie.

Fans want stars.  They are right sometimes but not much.   I did like Curry and Durant though.  Paul George.

Ainge found  IT.   He was the last pick in teh draft and is the little guy here and a good fit.

I don't think any player is the end all be all on this team where we wouldn't transition if it makes sense though.   Even pierce got traded when it was time to do that.
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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2016, 09:31:19 AM »

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people used to always say oh you got to trade pierce for lebron.  Even t hat used to p--- me off.  The celtics do things differently.  If pierce fits and laballhog doesnt it's  no good.  I think I've just gotten used to it.

I love Tommy too. These are the guys i look for because they are loyal.  I remember chastising laimbeer at the garden too.  It's all just fun.

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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2016, 10:06:26 AM »

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i was finished recently with james young because he just wasn't playing with any energy and he was flawed-i was not a fan of drafting 18year olds to begin with
rj just outplayed the boy ,both came advertised as shooters but couldn't produce
i'm a nader fan because i think he has the height and 7-1 wingspan  and i feel like he has the  body and mentality with ability to hit his threes in nba
 stevens, i think has the style like pop to build a team that plays and stays together
-so maybe we get some guys in the rafters  and a banner, ainge could pull in a free agent and do a trade-isaiah is a 5-9 superstar but not a superstar but he is an all star
ainge has done an incredible job securing assets without tanking,getting al horford and hiring brad stevens
i just think it is counter productive to the guys who put out ,who are making the celtics relevant again to hear some ground swell started by professional bashers and rumor mongers



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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2016, 10:09:55 AM »

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I agree.  A lot of it is opposing teams trying to create leverage.  Even our own media does it.  People don't really look at what the celtics are trying to do.  Maybe these people really feel that way.  Some do  I think.  Some of it is intentional.  Other people really just think that way.

I'd be ok if we trade James young but still like him.  Nader is good too.  We have a lot of flexibility with players like that.

People are people.  Some are just kids at the games with their parents. 

Even the garden can get pretty negative sometimes.  But other  times it gets really exciting.  Some people don't follow the celtics like i do.  I've come to just accept that.

 A lot of people are quicker to judge than I am. I know that. 

Even when I say things I'm more just trying to find what fits.  That changes over time.  There are certain guys i like and don't. 

Most of the celtics I like.  I like all of them.

I know how I see it. Sometimes i dont and am trying to figure that out.

People have opinions.  Sometimes they are right. Sometimes they aren't.
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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2016, 10:18:22 AM »

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i played for rollie massimino and he built team loyalty and a system-man to man help defence
i have a picture of myself with cousy, after playing with him and against him,i went to jungle jim loscutoff camps-i have been a loyal fan as long as team played with grit and determination
celtics pride- russell,dave cowens,havilchek,bird,pierce and all their teamates

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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2016, 10:21:01 AM »

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I think I've come to accept that people are people.  I don't know  though sometimes lol.  Best to stick  to your guns.  I agree with you on IT though.  He looks like the guy going forward.

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« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2016, 10:22:07 AM »

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i played for rollie massimino and he built team loyalty and a system-man to man help defence
i have a picture of myself with cousy, after playing with him and against him,i went to jungle jim loscutoff camps-i have been a loyal fan as long as team played with grit and determination
celtics pride- russell,dave cowens,havilchek,bird,pierce and all their teamates

Nice.  All those are good values.  I live sort of near cousy.  Played on some of the courts he did but haven't met him.

One of the courts I played on the groundskeeper told me Cousy used to play there though.

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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2016, 11:05:09 AM »

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Did you play for Villanova Rollie? How old are you? I wonder if you played against my uncle who played for Georgetown.  Probably too long ago.

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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2016, 12:17:41 PM »

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He can definitely do things on the court that no one else (on the celtics) can

He's a baller
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