Anyone not yet willing to concede Jaylen was a great pick?

[trickybilly]

I actually didn't expect him to start this solidly. Clearly he is benefiting from the spacing in the NBA. Certainly didn't expect his %'s to be so high so early.

There is so much Danny bashing around here (and after the pick was made I remember some sky-is-falling-in and  "sack Danny" threads). Just want to see how many people are willing to admit either a) they were wrong, and Jaylen is a great pick, or
b) that they stand by their comments that Jaylen sucks and Danny should be fired.

[mahcussmaht]

His shooting is much more efficient than anyone expected.  A lot of that is how he is being utilized and the type of attention he gets.  He has to improve, but he has a lot of time.

[perks-a-beast]

I would have taken Jaylen with that third pick one hundred times over but lets not get carried away about a rookie averaging less than 6 points a game over 24 games. We still have no clue what his ceiling is. My guess is he turns out to be an Andre Iguodala type player which wouldnt be too shabby.

[Ilikesports17]

way too early to proclaim this a great pick.

[Monkhouse]

I actually didn't expect him to start this solidly. Clearly he is benefiting from the spacing in the NBA. Certainly didn't expect his %'s to be so high so early.

There is so much Danny bashing around here (and after the pick was made I remember some sky-is-falling-in and  "sack Danny" threads). Just want to see how many people are willing to admit either a) they were wrong, and Jaylen is a great pick, or
b) that they stand by their comments that Jaylen sucks and Danny should be fired.

The thread title got me confused with your original premise lol.

[mr. dee]

I see something about the kid where he's ahead both Smart and Olynyk during their rookie campaign. His ability to get in the rim and fearless aggression is something we don't have since Paul Pierce. Smart have the fearless mentality, but not the ability to draw fouls and attack the rim. Kelly have the scoring prowess but not the mentality.

[walker834]

I see reggie lewis but not as developed but more athletic.  I just like how he moves around and the game seems to come effortlessly.    He's a rookie and don't want him playing 30 mpg  because i think he'd get worn out and hurt but if you average his stats once he gets close to that he's a 20 ppg scorer 6 or 7 boards, blocks, steals and a few assists.  He needs to work on his handle a bit imo. Iguadala was a really good ball handler even better than pierce in ways at first but not teh scorer.    I don't see jaylen as that really.  He's a quicker faster more athletic reggie lewis who can really handle the ball though.  He attacks when he has it. His shot is also better than a lot of people thought.

I thought it was a great pick before we even made it and haven't changed my mind.

Kawhi leonard is a really cerebral player and physical defender.  I'm not sure jaylen willl ever get that big but a faster more athletic version of that.

I don't know if he will be as good as Kawhi.  He could be better or not as good as that.

Pierce and Kawhi are big thick dudes.  Workhorses and warriors.

He's skinny like Reggie hehe. He'll be able to use that to his advantage though.  Quick forward and will be able to get in the paint and finish in  a variety of ways. Even on putbacks with his quickness and length where he will be able to get rebounds and put it back up and has the athleticism to do that.

He's a reggie lewis clone to me. 

[trickybilly]

way too early to proclaim this a great pick.

Good to see someone grounded amongst the hype..

Your refusal to not yet concede is noted and I look forward to checking in regularly to get updates.

[walker834]

It's one thing to realize a player is young and be in wait and see mode.  I think I get this.  It's another to ignore a plaeyrs talent entirely.  As far as draft picks go and talent it was a good pick.  How about that?

I'd say it's a combination of both.  Knowing what a players strengths are and how to utilize him and bring him along and also realizing he has work to do and what he actually is at this point.

I'd rather do that and actually know what a player is.

Is saying Bradley sucks ass all those years when he was a talented player with potential good?  no.

I wouldn't look forward to that persons analysis either because that person has no clue what they are talking about.

Seeing a player for what they are is good.

jaylen was a great pick. he's a rookie and a reggie lewis clone.  reggie lewis averaged 4.5 points per game his rookie year in even less minutes. jaylen has a bit more of an opportunity here because he's playing behind jae crowder and not larry bird.

reggie's averages jumped up pretty quick though his second year with more playing time.

so will jaylen's. He's really a year or two away from really reaching his full potential but he's also not nearly as far off as  a lot of people were saying before we drafted him.

I would not be surprised to see him contribute more and more this year although 82 games is a long season for a rookie.

I think even Brad conceded jaylen and both smart were great for their age but rookie years are tough for players that young. 

[walker834]

Brad Stevens even before we drafted jaylen said he thought it would be a great pick and he'd be great here.  If people want to say no I guess though. 

is he a great player yet?  no.  Was it a great pick? yes.

I would not rather be developing anyone else really.

the question was whether it was a great pick not whether he is a great player yet. 

If anything jaylen has solidified his status as a great pick not hurt it.   He's been better than a lot of people thought at this stage not worse.

The onyl thing in question on him is will he reach his upside but that goes with any player drafted.  He was drafted 6 months ago.

There really is no reason to believe he won't at this point.  If anything he has shown that he is trending to do that or at least be a very valuable player for us.

He may never be Paul George.  HE keeps playing like he is and trending he's very valuable regardless. he could be cedric maxwell.  regardless it's a great pick because he's valuable and has that upside.

Not recognizing a players value is silly. Being in wait and see on whether a player will reach his potential  is different.

If jaylen wasn't a great pick what is he?

[walker834]

Sry but when we drafted rozier that pick sucked according to a lot of people. bradley was terrible. same with smart.    if jaylen isn't a great pick what is?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVTRmH7ybO8

I more think some of you don't have a clue what you are talking about.  there' s a difference between being in wait and see mode and just being absurd.  even stevens thought all these guys were great picks.
 

[walker834]

This was brad at the combine

Regarding his interview with the Celtics at the NBA Combine, Brown said, “One of the things they said is I’ll love it there in Boston. It’s the type of area, the type of culture they have there. They said it fits me to a T. Things like that mean a lot to me. Just talking to me and getting a feel for me goes a long way.

“Coach [Brad] Stevens is great. He talked about how I would fit. Coach Stevens had a lot of positive things to say. He had a lot of positive things to say about Boston, the traditions of Boston. I know they want to win right away and [they] feel like they can do that.”

This was brad after his first preseason game

"Even in the NBA, when it’s all said and done, he’s going to be a powerful [player], one of the better athletes, right? Especially on drives," said Stevens. "He’s a hard guy, when he hits you, not to fall back a little. I think that, again, you have to kinda pick your spots of who you’re playing against, but certainly his athleticism is a huge plus. So that’s why we’ve emphasized with him make the open catch-and-shoot shots and learn where you drive and cuts are. Because drives and cuts, and some post-ups, are going to be a good place for him."

Danny Ainge at the draft

"We believe, with Jaylen, the way the NBA is played," Ainge said on Friday during the official introductions of five of the six players the Celtics picked on Thursday night, "that his versatility on top of his unique skill level, and his character, and his work ethic, we think all those factors give him as good a chance as any of (this year's top picks) - if not better - to be special.

"We've had our eye on Jaylen for a while - a couple of years. The first time I ever saw him play, and it's hard for me to say 'Wow!' when I watch basketball players because I've been around so many great ones in my life, but he had me say 'Wow!' a few times."

The "Wow!" factor was certainly not felt throughout the fan base on Thursday as the pick was lustily booed at the season ticket-holder party at TD Garden when Celtics managing partner Wyc Grousbeck announced to the crowd that Brown was here to stay.

"The only thing I felt bad about was that (it was) Wyc (who) went out there," Ainge said. "If I would have know that (was going to happen), or wasn't in the middle of something, then I should have been the one who went out there. I would have been happy to and I would have enjoyed (the booing)."

Ainge's request: Watch the kid play first.

"The only thing that I don't like about that is it (comes across) as a reflection on Jaylen instead of a reflection on me," he said. "It's like: 'We don't like your choice.' It's OK to boo me. But give him a chance. Let's see. Let's wait a year. Then boo me (if it doesn't work out). Let's not boo the kid when his name is announced."

The players

http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/sidebar/prac-101816-veterans-say-brown-perfect-piece-for-celtics/

[Greyman]

Jaylen is a good pick because he plays roles where the team needs help. I know a decent big is also on the Agenda but DA has two possible outstanding bigs in the wings. From what we have seen on the court and attitude wise I think at very worst Brown becomes an exceptional role player. I don't want to say what he could become at best as it is too early to judge and the ceiling could be very high, I just don't know.

His play now has him ranked close to where he was picked. At this point, what more could you ask?

[chambers]

I think we only needed to see a few games to quickly realize how ridiculously high Jaylen's ceiling is.
At age 19 he has the tools to be a hall of fame player.  To imagine how good he could be in 5 years at age 24 or in his prime at age 28,29,30 in 10 years makes me giddy.
It's no guarantee that he'll even be an All Star but he has exceeded my expectations completely.
There are Michael Jordan moments with Jaylen. He's a generational level athlete ala Westbroom, Dwayne Wade, Derrick Rose. I just hope he gets the minutes he needs to develop. I trust he will starting next season.

[moiso]

He's probably far more advanced than Reggie was at his age.  Reggie averaged less than 5 points per game when he was 2 years older than Brown is now, and players didn't play defense like they do now.