Anyone not yet willing to concede Jaylen was a great pick?

[Chris22]

Jaylen is my favorite player.
He makes some amazing shots and his defense is excellent.

[Ilikesports17]

Brown has looked good finishing one-dribble drives over the last couple of game. But then again, so did Tony Allen at one point, so let's not get ahead of ourselves.

I always wonder what tony Allen's career would have looked like without that brutal injury. I really felt it sapped his explosiveness.

[Moranis]

Brown has looked good finishing one-dribble drives over the last couple of game. But then again, so did Tony Allen at one point, so let's not get ahead of ourselves.

I always wonder what tony Allen's career would have looked like without that brutal injury. I really felt it sapped his explosiveness.

sometimes those injuries are blessings in disguise.  I have no idea if it was in Allen's case, but when you lose some of the speed and explosiveness you learn how to compensate using technique, smarts, etc. and that makes you a better player than you otherwise might have been.

[Denis998]

Great pick, but needs more time to develop as with all rookies. If he keeps working hard, he is going to be a great player. All he needs to do is tighten his handle and he'll be great.

[kozlodoev]

Brown has looked good finishing one-dribble drives over the last couple of game. But then again, so did Tony Allen at one point, so let's not get ahead of ourselves.

I always wonder what tony Allen's career would have looked like without that brutal injury. I really felt it sapped his explosiveness.

sometimes those injuries are blessings in disguise.  I have no idea if it was in Allen's case, but when you lose some of the speed and explosiveness you learn how to compensate using technique, smarts, etc. and that makes you a better player than you otherwise might have been.

I'm not sure he's compensating with anything -- he's pretty useless offensively (hasn't learned how to shoot, pass or dribble) but he's THAT good on defense.

[Chris22]

Brown has looked good finishing one-dribble drives over the last couple of game. But then again, so did Tony Allen at one point, so let's not get ahead of ourselves.

I always wonder what tony Allen's career would have looked like without that brutal injury. I really felt it sapped his explosiveness.

sometimes those injuries are blessings in disguise.  I have no idea if it was in Allen's case, but when you lose some of the speed and explosiveness you learn how to compensate using technique, smarts, etc. and that makes you a better player than you otherwise might have been.

I'm not sure he's compensating with anything -- he's pretty useless offensively (hasn't learned how to shoot, pass or dribble) but he's THAT good on defense.

In the last five games Brown is shooting 59% from the field, 57% on threes, and 83% from the line.

[Moranis]

Brown has looked good finishing one-dribble drives over the last couple of game. But then again, so did Tony Allen at one point, so let's not get ahead of ourselves.

I always wonder what tony Allen's career would have looked like without that brutal injury. I really felt it sapped his explosiveness.

sometimes those injuries are blessings in disguise.  I have no idea if it was in Allen's case, but when you lose some of the speed and explosiveness you learn how to compensate using technique, smarts, etc. and that makes you a better player than you otherwise might have been.

I'm not sure he's compensating with anything -- he's pretty useless offensively (hasn't learned how to shoot, pass or dribble) but he's THAT good on defense.

In the last five games Brown is shooting 59% from the field, 57% on threes, and 83% from the line.

I'm fairly certain he was referring to Tony Allen.

[mgent]

As of right now, me, and most people I would hope.

He's obviously on track to be a great pick, but if he doesn't get a heck of a lot better than he is right now, then that's horrible for the #3 pick.

Way too early.

For his first year as a Celtic, everyone on Celticsblog would have conceded that Avery Bradley was a bad pick.

[alewilliam789]

I will stick with this comparison and we have ourselves the next Jimmy Butler. This kid is special and has far outplayed the over hyped Brandon Ingram and many other picks that were deemed better than him (Dunn, Hield, and Bender). Excited to see his offensive game blossom with more refinement and experience. I think once we see him next Summer League we will see a completely different player.

[Moranis]

far outplayed Ingram?  I don't get that one.  Ingram is a better passer and rebounder thus far this year.  Brown is shooting at a higher percentage (except at the line).

[tankcity!]

far outplayed Ingram?  I don't get that one.  Ingram is a better passer and rebounder thus far this year.  Brown is shooting at a higher percentage (except at the line).

He's better than Bender or Noel

[tankcity!]

Nothing to concede since I've been on this guy pre-draft. Nobody has the cajones to make projections anymore. I loved that you did this OP. Just a friendly reminder why we sometimes tend to overvalue stats and ignore actually reading a person's interview and looking at the human being as well as talent.

People who continue to think Brown won't be an all star, well then you're being ignorant because He's actually pretty good fellas. I don't know what game you're watching, but for a guy that is raw, he seems pretty skilled on offense. He's the best rookie we've had since Paul Pierce. And he is younger than Pierce was. Obviously Pierce was a stud from the beginning. Let's see what we have in Brown in 2 years when he reaches Pierce's rookie age.

[walker834]

As of right now, me, and most people I would hope.

He's obviously on track to be a great pick, but if he doesn't get a heck of a lot better than he is right now, then that's horrible for the #3 pick.

Way too early.

For his first year as a Celtic, everyone on Celticsblog would have conceded that Avery Bradley was a bad pick.

This is my problem with celticsblog.  Apparently I'm not everyone.  People like to lump everyone in together. I was a big fan of the ab pick,smart, rozier and brown.

Most people on celticsblog booed these  picks and loved sullinger.  I also was a fan of sullinger but when we drafted him I realized he had question marks. A lot of fans didn't and then became disapointed when he didn't live up to it.   I was never that high on him. I rooted for him to do well because I'm unbiased that way and want him to do well and saw his strengths though as a rebounder.

A lot of people were hyping up the typical  so and so too making fun of me saying you have to take so and so as well.

Difference is when I look at the draft I try to find who is the best fit for the celtics. I also konw who the best players are usually. 

But all these picks were celtics picks.  Most fans don't do that. They just go with the masses or their own selfish beliefs and then are disapointed when we don't take who they thought we should have with absollutely no plan how that fts into what the celtics are trying to do..

Most people are very biased in their own little worlds and don't look at things logistically like that.

[walker834]

I see these guys for what they are.  I was just looking at measurables and no coincidence marcus and jaylen are basically teh same exact size as the guys i compare them to. Their games are also reminiscent and their strengths.  Yet people are comparing them to james worthy. If you look at what the celtics needed at the time these picks fit.  Bradley was a y oung player who was drafted to potentially replace ray allen who was the first shoe to drop with the last big 3.  Smart, jaylen etc all were picked for reasons as well.

Bradley at the time where we were pickig was also the most overlooked best player available with upside.  He was overlooked because he had one year in college but was a high upside talent with development. 

A lot of people don't see those things.  They'd rather pan a guy before he even gets a chance.

[walker834]

I never conceded Bradley was a bad pick.  I defended him for years. I even defended sully at the end because people were being too hard on him.  He wasn't my binkie but fans do this regardless.  They love to kick guys when they are down.

Sully was not teh type of player for us where having him come off the bench was a culture shock for him. He wasn't that type of player at the time.

if Sully were to get his stuff straight and play to his strengths he still could be good but most likely not many people give a crap about him that much.

I know this because I had Smart, Bradley and guys like that way before most people did.  Same with jaylen.