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anybody tired of trade posts
« on: November 30, 2016, 09:41:01 AM »

Offline rollie mass

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sometimes, i thnk it insults and demeans our current team
it has been turned into an industry of rumors and hearsay
it's a form of sabotage

Re: anybody tired of trade posts
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2016, 06:18:27 PM »

Offline CelticPride2016

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This is why I like your posts. Trade conjecture is pointless. Opinions on player development are not.

We all know our guards are solid. We can see that Crowder might be a great player, not just good.

It's always fun to watch each of the players. Now tonight we will see what Brad does with Olynyk and Zeller. He seems to fluctuate back and forth with trusting them.

Add Jerebko and that's five bigs. Yabusele and Zizac might be on the way. Jordan Mickey might have only a slightly better chance than Colton Iverson of ever being in a Celtics rotation.

I've given up on Young. I guess the proclivity is to dream of an idealized future. No one wants to watch a mediocre treadmill or root for losses. No one wants to be the Don Cherry Bruins. It was a good job and good effort, but never a Stanley Cup.

People are anticipating the future. They think maybe one more piece could put us over the top. It's true. But millions of words spoken will not make any difference.

I look forward to tonight's game. Will Jaylen play? When does this team finally get practice time? That seems to be integral to a team's psyche to help the gelling process.

What I like most lately is the part where team injuries are mentioned and the Celtics have none. This is it. We are about to find out what we have. It could take a month or two, but we will soon see where we fall from 45-60 wins. Are we a close but no cigar treadmill, a Bulls or Atlanta? Or are we just one step below Golden State and Cleveland, the last two champions? Because if we are the latter, Danny has more than enough assets to turn us into a true threat.

I think that is what pushes the trade conjecture. I find it boring.

I will point out that I might sound a bit hypocritical. I have gone hard after David Lee, Zeller and James Young. I also felt betrayed by Jared Sullinger. You used that word and I agree. The Celtics put years into that guy's training and he provided us with a goose egg.

I like the present Celtics. Practically every player is interesting to watch to see what happens. For me:

Horford: will he maintain the high level of impact?
Isaiah: I'm watching to see if he can cut down on turnovers, up assists and shoot better.
Marcus: I am watching his offense
Kelly: I am watching to see if he plays with focus or looks lost
Amir: I am curious why this guy hasn't played better
Zeller: Not sure what to say. He is serviceable.
Jerebko: Can he tighten those funky looking euro moves? Otherwise, he is a good rotation guy
Jaylen: Can he get back to not looking so raw?
Terry: Can he maintain what he's doing? If so, he might rival Smart for potential.
Avery: He is like Horford. I trust those guys. I'd like Isaiah to get even better on offense as described above. Then that is somewhat a Big Three. Crowder is underrated. We are just hurting for bigs. We are not injured for bigs. They aren't carrying their weight.
Jae Crowder: People talk of the need for a big three, but some of these players are very good with almost limitless ceilings. Maybe instead of going for a Big Three formula, we can win it all with a Big Ten. The 1986 Celtics had a Big Three and Walton, but they also went deep.

We might naturally be growing into a champion, but people might not recognize that because they see everything as glass half empty. They keep coming up with trade proposals. It seems pointless. It'll happen or it won't. We do not know how average, good or great our players are. That's where our attention should be. Every year we think okay, that is Avery Bradley,he is what he is, and then he takes it up still another notch. That is what Stevens does. He brings out the best in the team.

If we need a trade, it has to be for a center who can play with Horford or a big power forward, maybe what Brad was thinking pairing Al with Amir.

If Kelly can wake up, I'd start him with Al and then maybe Amir can step up his game as the key cog on the second unit.

Re: anybody tired of trade posts
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2016, 06:28:37 PM »

Offline ThePaintedArea

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sometimes, i thnk it insults and demeans our current team
it has been turned into an industry of rumors and hearsay
it's a form of sabotage

You have a good point.  Players are more than assets.

Re: anybody tired of trade posts
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2016, 06:30:29 PM »

Offline Eddie20

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sometimes, i thnk it insults and demeans our current team
it has been turned into an industry of rumors and hearsay
it's a form of sabotage

I enjoy it more when it's involving players rumored to be moved. It's conjecture driven, but it provides thought provoking ideas. The recent trade proposals (like the Aaron Gordon one for instance) are just too random and based simply out of one's imagination.

Re: anybody tired of trade posts
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2016, 07:03:09 PM »

Offline alewilliam789

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Yeah I have stopped posting them altogether. I've just given into the fact that no matter how bad I think someone will make our team better or how good of a steal they are it's all in Danny's hands and I have no power over that.

Re: anybody tired of trade posts
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2016, 07:07:46 PM »

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sometimes, i thnk it insults and demeans our current team
it has been turned into an industry of rumors and hearsay
it's a form of sabotage
Agreed Rollie. But if folks want to post and them, so be it. 

As for me, I never go to such threads so they don't bother me all that much. Try to ignore them.
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Re: anybody tired of trade posts
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2016, 07:48:50 PM »

Offline LooseCannon

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I am not tired of realistic trade ideas.  I am tired of unrealistic trade ideas or ideas to acquire bad players that some posters think are potential stars.
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Re: anybody tired of trade posts
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2016, 09:15:50 PM »

Offline green_bballers13

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sometimes, i thnk it insults and demeans our current team
it has been turned into an industry of rumors and hearsay
it's a form of sabotage

I think a lot of us just want to be GM. Some of us even play fantasy sports.

Knowing that the Celtics need more talent, it makes sense for fans to think about how the team can improve.

I like your take. I never thought about it all that much. I am all for more Celtics pride. I like our current team and look forward to the improvements.

The only real mistake is the one from which we learn nothing.

Re: anybody tired of trade posts
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2016, 10:02:35 PM »

Offline Ogaju

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They are so boring

Re: anybody tired of trade posts
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2016, 10:13:25 PM »

Offline fantankerous

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They are so boring

Not nearly as boring and sanctimonious as this thread.

Re: anybody tired of trade posts
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2016, 10:56:46 PM »

Offline jambr380

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Eh, I get what you are saying, but we don't exactly have the perfect roster (we haven't since 2008). It is fun for some to fantasize and it helps gauge the value of our players. Most threads deal very little with the actual deal being proposed and more about how the player in question may or may not help our team and if he would be worth giving up all of our 'assets'.