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must get Jaylen back in the rotation
« on: November 28, 2016, 08:52:48 AM »

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Jaylen is too good to be playing 5 minutes. He's a rookie and early in his career where he had a decent stretch and sit time with the C's back to full strength.  I don't see why Brad, even with our starting 5 healthy, can't get Brown minutes.  Smart is being used properly getting 30 mpg off the bench.  Rozier is getting time.  KO and jerebko are.  Brown is the odd man out.  I would play Brown most nights  over one of those guys.

Why even use Zeller at all?

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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2016, 09:01:43 AM »

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Seems like he needs more time to learn, and practice scoring under the lockdown d from Marcus in practice. He seems to just sit in the corner every time he is in the game, whenever he drives he usually turns it over.
Not to sound to negative about jaylen but it is what it is.

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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2016, 09:06:53 AM »

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Zeller is a warm body. A 7 ft body. Danny appears to like him b/c he can run the floor, which honestly is somewhat unique. Other than that, he's average to below average in most aspects of the game. Our big guy inventory is not impressive. I think that's why he plays.

Jaylen is 19. It is hard to focus on winning games and developing young players. I'm sure that he's getting tons of experience in practice. He's too good to be in the D-league. Brad Stevens is doing whatever he thinks will help them win the game. I would much prefer this than the embarrassing displays of lottery teams that continue to tank year after year. It's not just Philly. Phoenix, Sacramento, Washington, Orlando, New Orleans, New York, and Denver have not been relevant in a while. I'm sure many of these teams wouldn't mind playing Jaylen 30 minutes a game while struggling to win 30 games over the year.
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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2016, 09:07:23 AM »

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Jaylen is too good to be playing 5 minutes. He's a rookie and early in his career where he had a decent stretch and sit time with the C's back to full strength.  I don't see why Brad, even with our starting 5 healthy, can't get Brown minutes.  Smart is being used properly getting 30 mpg off the bench. Rozier is getting time.  KO and jerebko are.  Brown is the odd man out.  I would play Brown most nights  over one of those guys.

Why even use Zeller at all?
yes on rozier. but he only averaged 8 minutes a game in 39 games last year and is is at 19.5 this year. so looked at in another way, brown (14.9 minutes/g) is doing all right.

the season is only about a quarter over. patience, patience, patience.
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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2016, 09:43:42 AM »

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Seems like he needs more time to learn, and practice scoring under the lockdown d from Marcus in practice. He seems to just sit in the corner every time he is in the game, whenever he drives he usually turns it over.
Not to sound to negative about jaylen but it is what it is.

I agree with you he's had his struggles.  He's definately not dominating in the minutes he gets.  A little surprising.  He was ok in summer league.  Had a great preseason and has looked good at times during the regular season.  It's his rookie year.  He doesn't seem that far off though.  I say a couple years but could be sooner rather than later with him.  Not sure what he really needs to do besides just using his talent and being more physically imposing particularly on the defensive end right now.

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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2016, 09:51:07 AM »

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He looks like a rookie. Fortunately a very talented and athletic one. I am not worried about JB. This year is for him to learn the league and Brad's system and how to play with the big boys. He will be a much bigger key off the bench come next year, seeing as we don't have many wings to begin with. And he's in such a great situation too. There's no added pressure for him to be "the man" right away because of the fact he was a lottery pick. He can develop properly and when the time comes, Jaylen will get his minutes and make the most of them.

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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2016, 10:48:10 AM »

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I agree. The only way he gets better is by playing. Jerebko should not be playing over him ever.

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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2016, 10:57:00 AM »

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I agree. The only way he gets better is by playing.

Brown will get better whether he plays big minutes or not (see Rozier, Terry)

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Jerebko should not be playing over him ever.

Jerebko plays PF (which Brown can't do) and is shooting extremely well (50% on 2s and 42.3% on 3s, both of which are better than Brown).  There isn't really any argument for playing Brown over Jerebko except "he's young!"
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Jaylen is too good to be playing 5 minutes. He's a rookie and early in his career where he had a decent stretch and sit time with the C's back to full strength.  I don't see why Brad, even with our starting 5 healthy, can't get Brown minutes.  Smart is being used properly getting 30 mpg off the bench. Rozier is getting time.  KO and jerebko are.  Brown is the odd man out.  I would play Brown most nights  over one of those guys.

Why even use Zeller at all?
yes on rozier. but he only averaged 8 minutes a game in 39 games last year and is is at 19.5 this year. so looked at in another way, brown (14.9 minutes/g) is doing all right.

the season is only about a quarter over. patience, patience, patience.

To add some more context to this, Rozier played 311 minutes last year (and funny enough, 312 so far this year).  Brown, on the other hand, has played 238 after just 16 games.  He's playing plenty of minutes, and he'll be fine
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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2016, 12:16:06 PM »

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Seems like he needs more time to learn, and practice scoring under the lockdown d from Marcus in practice. He seems to just sit in the corner every time he is in the game, whenever he drives he usually turns it over.
Not to sound to negative about jaylen but it is what it is.
I agree; Jaylen simply isn't performing right now.  He's been very tentative and generally has only taken shots when he has to (leading to quite a few turnovers).  This doesn't mean he is going to be a bad player but he simply isn't there yet.

And for the person that mentioned he was 19, that's not correct.  Jaylen has been 20 the entire season.

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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2016, 12:54:05 PM »

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Jaylen is too good to be playing 5 minutes. He's a rookie and early in his career where he had a decent stretch and sit time with the C's back to full strength.  I don't see why Brad, even with our starting 5 healthy, can't get Brown minutes.  Smart is being used properly getting 30 mpg off the bench. Rozier is getting time.  KO and jerebko are.  Brown is the odd man out.  I would play Brown most nights  over one of those guys.

Why even use Zeller at all?
yes on rozier. but he only averaged 8 minutes a game in 39 games last year and is is at 19.5 this year. so looked at in another way, brown (14.9 minutes/g) is doing all right.

the season is only about a quarter over. patience, patience, patience.

To add some more context to this, Rozier played 311 minutes last year (and funny enough, 312 so far this year).  Brown, on the other hand, has played 238 after just 16 games.  He's playing plenty of minutes, and he'll be fine

Brown looks much better in his rookie season so far than Rozier did last year. Rookie seasons for young players are always very up and down with a few exceptions. Brown needs the game to slow down for him. He jumps at every fake. But when he is in his +- is usually pretty good. He seems to affect the game positively. I think he'll be much better even by the end of this season.

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« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2016, 01:30:03 PM »

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He's too good based on what?  He's shown flashes but there's little proof he can be a positive impact rotation player right now.
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He's too good based on what?  He's shown flashes but there's little proof he can be a positive impact rotation player right now.

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« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2016, 04:03:52 PM »

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He's too good based on what?  He's shown flashes but there's little proof he can be a positive impact rotation player right now.

Excellent question. TP.

he appears. what perfect timing too!
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« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2016, 04:07:06 PM »

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He might get a chance to play tonight against depleted Heat team.