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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1770 on: July 04, 2017, 07:12:31 PM »

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due to some moron reporter this is giving utah a last chance to right the ship when the ship had already sunk. crazy pills.
LET'S GO CELTICS!

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1771 on: July 04, 2017, 07:13:18 PM »

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this is playing out like a bad romance novel.

time to watch a re-run of yesterdays 7/11 highlights and watch some guys who actually want to play for us! ha

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1772 on: July 04, 2017, 07:13:38 PM »

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You bet!

But the jazz sound like a girlfriend who is in the process of getting dump.

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1773 on: July 04, 2017, 07:14:06 PM »

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Hayward has the NBA and fans hostage right now

Hurry up Gordon!

At this point, flip a coin!

screw him..... ;D....i went ahead and filled up on pork shoulder BQ and Beer .......Im good no matter what .

Shaqattack why didnt you invite me :( bc...




now im headed down to the beach ....to check out the bikini situation ..... ;D

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1774 on: July 04, 2017, 07:15:08 PM »

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Feels like they are working on a S+T for crowder, opening up 6 mil in cap space.

Is this possible?

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1775 on: July 04, 2017, 07:16:20 PM »

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You know what... The more I think about it...the more a sign and trade could be in order

Hayward says sorry Jazz I will choose Boston but lets workout a sign and trade. Help you guys out

To Jazz: Crowder, AB, KO (sign and trade)
To Celtics: Hayward (sign and trade), Tony Bradley

Good?

Tony Bradley
Horford
Hayward
Smart
AB

Zizic/Yabu
Tatum
Brown
Rozier

Celts would need to sign a FA to come off the bench

I forgot all about Utah liking KO previously, too. A sign and trade would actually make a ton of sense for both sides at this point.

Can anyone answer the question I had earlier about whether or not you can attach other contracts to a sign and trade deal?

For example, could something like this go down:

Boston: Hayward S&T, Favors

Utah: KO S&T, Crowder, and Bradley

That deal would actually be great for both sides rather than Utah losing him for nothing.

I hope someone can answer also

This way Hayward can make his 5 years max max.... Danny doesnt need to make another transaction or two, to trade Crowder etc

Im not a huge fan of Favors.. lazy player

Tony Bradley is a nice looking young talent. Brings a mature game for his age

Apparently in the new CBA a sign-and-trade no longer gives the 5-year + 8% raise benefits that you would normally get from resigning with your home team.

So Hayward can't make as much money here, he has to settle for 4 years at regular max money.

He also has reason to opt out after three years since he'll become a 10-year vet, making him eligible for 35% of the cap instead of 30%.

As for Potter's questions, I don't know if a sign-and-trade player can be traded alongside other players. I couldn't find anything that says he couldn't be. But even if it is impossible we could feasibly do multiple trades instead.

One thing that IS definitely doable is a double sign-and-trade, i.e. KO for Hayward.
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1776 on: July 04, 2017, 07:16:40 PM »

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Wojo just said Hayward has gone dark.

I am telling you he will stay in Utah.

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1777 on: July 04, 2017, 07:18:26 PM »

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Wojo just said Hayward has gone dark.

I am telling you he will stay in Utah.
What's that mean? Not able to man up and let Utah down?

Let him be stuck in mediocrity forever
"7ft PG. Rondo leaves and GUESS WHAT? We got a BIGGER point guard!"-Tommy on Olynyk


Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1778 on: July 04, 2017, 07:18:36 PM »

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You know what... The more I think about it...the more a sign and trade could be in order

Hayward says sorry Jazz I will choose Boston but lets workout a sign and trade. Help you guys out

To Jazz: Crowder, AB, KO (sign and trade)
To Celtics: Hayward (sign and trade), Tony Bradley

Good?

Tony Bradley
Horford
Hayward
Smart
AB

Zizic/Yabu
Tatum
Brown
Rozier

Celts would need to sign a FA to come off the bench

I forgot all about Utah liking KO previously, too. A sign and trade would actually make a ton of sense for both sides at this point.

Can anyone answer the question I had earlier about whether or not you can attach other contracts to a sign and trade deal?

For example, could something like this go down:

Boston: Hayward S&T, Favors

Utah: KO S&T, Crowder, and Bradley

That deal would actually be great for both sides rather than Utah losing him for nothing.

I hope someone can answer also

This way Hayward can make his 5 years max max.... Danny doesnt need to make another transaction or two, to trade Crowder etc

Im not a huge fan of Favors.. lazy player

Tony Bradley is a nice looking young talent. Brings a mature game for his age
First, sign and trades are limited to 3 or 4 year contracts only and the raises are limited to 4.5 %.

Second you can attach other contracts to a sign and trade but lots of teams would present the paperwork to the league as separate trades. For instance, a trade of S&T Hayward and Favors for Bradley, Crowder and Boston's 2018 1st rounder could be done as Favors for Bradley & Crowder as a trade opening up $4 million more in cap space for Boston. Then Boston sends the first rounder and a trade exception to Utah for Hayward on a 4 year max with player option in the last year. I am sure about everything but the trade exception but pretty sure this is right.

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1779 on: July 04, 2017, 07:18:42 PM »

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Hayward messed up. He opened his mouth near people he shouldnt trust. His only chance at gonig to the finals is to join the Boston Celtics PERIOD.

He wont go anywhere in the western division. Theres no sense in him staying in Utah unless he wants to stay in NBA purgatory.

N if thats what he wants then let him stay. He wont go anywhere with that team.

Meanwhile, Boston got itself two future studs in Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum AND own an UNPROTECTED  Brooklyn pick and a 2-5 protected Lakers pick in 018 that could bolster up 2 future starters to go along with Jayson n Jaylen.

Either way, Boston wins n Utah stays the same...

Im over it...

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1780 on: July 04, 2017, 07:19:08 PM »

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Wojo just said Hayward has gone dark.

I am telling you he will stay in Utah.
where  he say did that? Espn has baseball and twitter has nothing

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1781 on: July 04, 2017, 07:19:38 PM »

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Wojo just said Hayward has gone dark.

I am telling you he will stay in Utah.
What's that mean? Not able to man up and let Utah down?

Let him be stuck in mediocrity forever

Dark meaning he is not talking to anyone

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1782 on: July 04, 2017, 07:20:27 PM »

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Wojo just said Hayward has gone dark.

I am telling you he will stay in Utah.

You are wrong!!!!!!


Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1783 on: July 04, 2017, 07:21:45 PM »

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Wojo just said Hayward has gone dark.

I am telling you he will stay in Utah.
Its 4th of July. How about we let the guy celebrate the holiday with his family doing family things like having a party or barbeque and then taking their kids to see fireworks. Geesh guys, Hayward is more than just a basketball player. He is human and does regular people stuff too.

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Decision Looms AGAIN..)
« Reply #1784 on: July 04, 2017, 07:21:49 PM »

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Feels like they are working on a S+T for crowder, opening up 6 mil in cap space.

Is this possible?

it sounds like us celtics fans are now grasping for straws for this delay! BWAHAHAHAHAHA
LET'S GO CELTICS!