2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (We Did It Guys! Fireworks!!!)

[jpotter33]

its just a weird decision to make to stay in Utah and basically give up your hopes of ever winning a title.

He coud always ask/demand/force a trade

That, or he may actually like the place where he was drafted and where he spent his entire NBA career so far. And coincidentally, that team can also offer him the most money. But somehow this all mean squat for some folks because he has the unique opportunity to sign with their favorite team. I mean, who wouldn't leave $50 million on the table to do that.

But the money is largely a non-factor in this particular case, because he is widely expected to sign a 3 + 1 deal, even with Utah. And he has long held that a chance to win will be his primary focus in free agency. Can you really argue that Boston isn't the clearest best fit in that regard?

So him going back to Utah is clearly not as obvious or clear as you make it out to be.

[Phantom255x]

https://twitter.com/lawrence954/status/881544949682118657

Check out this Miami trash thinking he's funny

They all think they're funny. 

Plus they act like Spoelstra is up there with Greg Popovich, EVEN THOUGH Spo had the privelige of having guys like Lebron, and Wade+Bosh IN THEIR PRIMES. (Oh and Shaq too in 2006 when Spo was assistant coach) 

I remember they were so confident Riley and the Miami weather would land Durant last year too.

Sadly KD didn't choose us, BUT he barely considered Miami from what I heard (barely any interest even after the meeting)

[tankcity!]

its just a weird decision to make to stay in Utah and basically give up your hopes of ever winning a title.

He coud always ask/demand/force a trade

That, or he may actually like the place where he was drafted and where he spent his entire NBA career so far. And coincidentally, that team can also offer him the most money. But somehow this all mean squat for some folks because he has the unique opportunity to sign with their favorite team. I mean, who wouldn't leave $50 million on the table to do that.

But the money is largely a non-factor in this particular case, because he is widely expected to sign a 3 + 1 deal, even with Utah. And he has long held that a chance to win will be his primary focus in free agency. Can you really argue that Boston isn't the clearest best fit in that regard?

So him going back to Utah is clearly not as obvious or clear as you make it out to be.

It really is hard to argue that we provide the best winning situation. I mean are people assuming Brown, Smart, Bradley, and Thomas aren't going to be better? Are people forgetting how young this team is? If Hayward wants his best shot to win he will come to Boston. I'm confident of that

[hwangjini_1]

its just a weird decision to make to stay in Utah and basically give up your hopes of ever winning a title.

There's a very good chance he never wins a championship in Boston or Miami, either.

Go wash your mouth out with soap!  Right now!  Repeat! Strike those foul words forever from thy tongue! Before the curse is in. You'll be the death of our aspirations!

could not agree more preach. does CB have a pillory we could use??? 

[SparzWizard]

I hope this isn't the last time Gordon Hayward will be in Boston this summer....

[j804]

its just a weird decision to make to stay in Utah and basically give up your hopes of ever winning a title.

He coud always ask/demand/force a trade

That, or he may actually like the place where he was drafted and where he spent his entire NBA career so far. And coincidentally, that team can also offer him the most money. But somehow this all mean squat for some folks because he has the unique opportunity to sign with their favorite team. I mean, who wouldn't leave $50 million on the table to do that.

But the money is largely a non-factor in this particular case, because he is widely expected to sign a 3 + 1 deal, even with Utah. And he has long held that a chance to win will be his primary focus in free agency. Can you really argue that Boston isn't the clearest best fit in that regard?

So him going back to Utah is clearly not as obvious or clear as you make it out to be.

It really is hard to argue that we provide the best winning situation. I mean are people assuming Brown, Smart, Bradley, and Thomas aren't going to be better? Are people forgetting how young this team is? If Hayward wants his best shot to win he will come to Boston. I'm confident of that

I agree but if it's about weather and familiarity with wherever he's already living then it's Utah or Miami

[jpotter33]

its just a weird decision to make to stay in Utah and basically give up your hopes of ever winning a title.

He coud always ask/demand/force a trade

That, or he may actually like the place where he was drafted and where he spent his entire NBA career so far. And coincidentally, that team can also offer him the most money. But somehow this all mean squat for some folks because he has the unique opportunity to sign with their favorite team. I mean, who wouldn't leave $50 million on the table to do that.

But the money is largely a non-factor in this particular case, because he is widely expected to sign a 3 + 1 deal, even with Utah. And he has long held that a chance to win will be his primary focus in free agency. Can you really argue that Boston isn't the clearest best fit in that regard?

So him going back to Utah is clearly not as obvious or clear as you make it out to be.

It really is hard to argue that we provide the best winning situation. I mean are people assuming Brown, Smart, Bradley, and Thomas aren't going to be better? Are people forgetting how young this team is? If Hayward wants his best shot to win he will come to Boston. I'm confident of that

I agree but if it's about weather and familiarity with wherever he's already living then it's Utah or Miami

I agree with that. But I just think it's very clear that those things aren't very high up on his list: 1) he's already tried leaving the familiarity of Utah once, and 2) Gordon seems very far from the type to care largely about weather, lifestyle, etc.

Boston gives him 1) the best path towards winning/Finals, 2) the best shot at improving the team with our young prospects and assets, 3) the best future team, and 4) the best shot at increasing his own individual "brand." In Boston, he's almost a shoo-in for the All-Star game, and with Butler and George now gone, he has a great shot at being an All-Star starter in the East.

[j804]

^Good points about him most likely being an All Star and probably a starter didn't think of that. The winning situation is a no brainer for sure especially with everybody stacking up in the west. If he goes to Utah or Miami it's gotta be a wifey decision.

[jpotter33]

Any other updates from the meeting? It seems like things have been pretty quiet so far outside of the Fenway stuff.

[Roy H.]

its just a weird decision to make to stay in Utah and basically give up your hopes of ever winning a title.

He coud always ask/demand/force a trade

That, or he may actually like the place where he was drafted and where he spent his entire NBA career so far. And coincidentally, that team can also offer him the most money. But somehow this all mean squat for some folks because he has the unique opportunity to sign with their favorite team. I mean, who wouldn't leave $50 million on the table to do that.

But the money is largely a non-factor in this particular case, because he is widely expected to sign a 3 + 1 deal, even with Utah. And he has long held that a chance to win will be his primary focus in free agency. Can you really argue that Boston isn't the clearest best fit in that regard?

So him going back to Utah is clearly not as obvious or clear as you make it out to be.

It really is hard to argue that we provide the best winning situation. I mean are people assuming Brown, Smart, Bradley, and Thomas aren't going to be better? Are people forgetting how young this team is? If Hayward wants his best shot to win he will come to Boston. I'm confident of that

I guess the counter-argument is that Riley has helped build three distinct championship teams. He got the Lakers to the Finals 9 times, he built around Wade / Shaq, and he assembled the big three headlined by Lebron.  Danny has "only" won once as an executive.

Until recently, Miami was close to a model organization. In light of some of Riley's tactics with Lebron, Wade and Bosh, though, he may be losing it a bit.

[celticinorlando]

its just a weird decision to make to stay in Utah and basically give up your hopes of ever winning a title.

He coud always ask/demand/force a trade

That, or he may actually like the place where he was drafted and where he spent his entire NBA career so far. And coincidentally, that team can also offer him the most money. But somehow this all mean squat for some folks because he has the unique opportunity to sign with their favorite team. I mean, who wouldn't leave $50 million on the table to do that.

But the money is largely a non-factor in this particular case, because he is widely expected to sign a 3 + 1 deal, even with Utah. And he has long held that a chance to win will be his primary focus in free agency. Can you really argue that Boston isn't the clearest best fit in that regard?

So him going back to Utah is clearly not as obvious or clear as you make it out to be.

It really is hard to argue that we provide the best winning situation. I mean are people assuming Brown, Smart, Bradley, and Thomas aren't going to be better? Are people forgetting how young this team is? If Hayward wants his best shot to win he will come to Boston. I'm confident of that

I guess the counter-argument is that Riley has helped build three distinct championship teams. He got the Lakers to the Finals 9 times, he built around Wade / Shaq, and he assembled the big three headlined by Lebron.  Danny has "only" won once as an executive.

Until recently, Miami was close to a model organization. In light of some of Riley's tactics with Lebron, Wade and Bosh, though, he may be losing it a bit.

Wade got James to miami. Riley was a long for the ride

[hodgy03038]

Wade got James to miami. Riley was a long for the ride

100% correct

[cltc5]

Breaking:  Hayward had a salad for lunch!!!  Lettuce=green=Celtics 

[Roy H.]

Wade got James to miami. Riley was a long for the ride

100% correct

Only if you think that all the ground work laid to create max cap space, bring back Haslem, acquire Battier and Miller, etc., was dumb luck.

[hodgy03038]

Wade got James to miami. Riley was a long for the ride

100% correct

Only if you think that all the ground work laid to create max cap space, bring back Haslem, acquire Battier and Miller, etc., was dumb luck.

When Wade advised Pat that he was getting these guys then Pat & company worked on it.