Joel Embiid Is on a Pitch Count

[KG Living Legend]

 Okay I get it the kid looks to be the franchise, and you don't want him to risk further injury.

  however after playing 27 minutes in a 91 - 91 ballgame going into overtime, to pull him from the game and not playing him another 5 minutes, after hus body's already warmed up might be a little too much.

  I thought that they should have gave him at least a few more minutes, he handled it badly though he kicked the chair after they told him he couldn't play anymore I just wonder at what point do you lift the minute restriction.

[green_bballers13]

The 76ers are probably trying to lose. The corporate interests are invested in building a team full of stars that are picked at the top of the draft.

On this day of thanksgiving, I am happy to be a fan of the Celtics. They have attempted to develop their young talent, while presenting a formidable team almost every night.

[Csfan1984]

76ers are still tanking for two more years.

[tazzmaniac]

Brown said their medical staff would review the restrictions again at Christmas.  Leaving it up to the medical staff is in the best interest of Embiid and the Sixers.  Absolutely no reason to push Embiid's playing time any further for a meaningless game in November.   

[guava_wrench]

I fail to see how the game being tied is relevant. Either you have restrictions or you don't.

[LarBrd33]

 Okay I get it the kid looks to be the franchise, and you don't want him to risk further injury.

  however after playing 27 minutes in a 91 - 91 ballgame going into overtime, to pull him from the game and not playing him another 5 minutes, after hus body's already warmed up might be a little too much.

  I thought that they should have gave him at least a few more minutes, he handled it badly though he kicked the chair after they told him he couldn't play anymore I just wonder at what point do you lift the minute restriction.

KG, I agree with you.  I watched that whole game.  Joel Embiid continues to be one of the highlights of this season.

I had the same comment.  They were on the verge of winning their 5th straight home game.  The game went into double overtime.  Yes, he had reached his strict minute restriction, but what real harm would sticking him in there for 2-3 more minutes have done? 

The thing is, everything I've read suggests that his foot is fine at this point and the minute restriction has more to do with his conditioning.  He hasn't played basketball in two years.  The concern is that if he pushes himself too much for extended periods of time, he might start to drag and could put himself at risk of injuring something.  The idea is that if you start huffing and puffing and dragging, you could get a little careless with your body and that's when little sprains and twists can happen.

But extended period of time doesn't mean bulk minutes over the course of the game.  What that means is, instead of playing him for 6-8 minute stretches where he might start to huff and puff the last two minutes, instead they play him for 3-4 minute stretches.  Over the course of a 48 minute game, they have him capped at 24 minutes.   They disperse those minutes evenly over the course of the game and make sure he's getting all the rest he can until his cardio allows him to play longer stretches without getting winded.   

A "24 minute per game" cap makes no sense.  A cap for the amount of continuous minutes he plays makes a lot more sense for what they are doing.  And on that note, it really doesn't make any logical sense why he couldn't exceed 24 minutes in an overtime game.  As long as he's getting appropriate rest between his time on the court, what difference does it make?  It's not like him standing on his feet for more than 24 minutes is going to make his foot break itself again.   

That said, he actually did exceed the restriction tonight and perhaps they felt it was just best that they not push it any more.  They plan on sitting him Friday.   Obviously, they are being super cautious.

Kid is incredible, though.  Just incredible.  I'm blown away every time I watch him.  It was originally reported that both he and Okafor were going to be on 24 minute restrictions until late December.  This week they changed their tune and said Okafor is no longer on any minute restriction.  I imagine they'll stick with their Embiid plan.  But if his restriction actually lifts in December and Ben Simmons comes back in mid January as many predict, I wouldnt at all be surprised to see that team go on a mini run over the final few months.  Could be great news for our Brooklyn pick.   

[LarBrd33]

76ers are still tanking for two more years.

I'm deftly afraid of what a fully healthy Sixers teams will look like a couple years from now without even considering the fact that they are still probably going to end up bottom 5 and have a shot at superstar PG prospects like Markelle Fultz or superstar SF prospects like Josh Jackson... not to mention the very real chance the Laker pick they own conveys this year in the 4-10 range. 

But actually, the Sixers don't need to tank this year.  They have a pick-swap with the Kings.  The Kings suck too and will suck especially hard if they move Cousins before the trade deadline.  There's a far-fetch, but completely plausible scenario here where Embiid and Simmons start showing signs of stardom over the final few months, win some games, and still end up with a star in this draft.  Scary.

[Celtics4ever]

I'm deftly afraid of what a fully healthy Sixers teams will look like a couple years from now without even considering the fact that they are still probably going to end up bottom 5 and have a shot at superstar PG prospects like Markelle Fultz or superstar SF prospects like Josh Jackson... not to mention the very real chance the Laker pick they own conveys this year in the 4-10 range.

All those guys will want to get paid, and I think some of them will bolt away from there.   No way all that talent stays.

[moiso]

Embiid looks great but I'm still not jealous of that team.  They still suck.  I need to see some cohesion and some wins before I'd be envious.  I'd much rather be in the Celtics' shoes.  Other teams have superstars like Cousins and Anthony Davis and they still suck.  Teams like the Lamar Oden/Darius Miles Clippers had talent like the Sixers may end up with, and they always sucked and never advanced toward respectability. 

Embiid looks fantastic and healthy but why does this look like Sixersblog?  They aren't that interesting.

[tazzmaniac]

I'm deftly afraid of what a fully healthy Sixers teams will look like a couple years from now without even considering the fact that they are still probably going to end up bottom 5 and have a shot at superstar PG prospects like Markelle Fultz or superstar SF prospects like Josh Jackson... not to mention the very real chance the Laker pick they own conveys this year in the 4-10 range.

All those guys will want to get paid, and I think some of them will bolt away from there.   No way all that talent stays.

The Sixers control their rookies just like any other team and will be able to match any offers their rookies receive as RFAs.  Nobody is bolting away from them. 

[GratefulCs]

 Okay I get it the kid looks to be the franchise, and you don't want him to risk further injury.

  however after playing 27 minutes in a 91 - 91 ballgame going into overtime, to pull him from the game and not playing him another 5 minutes, after hus body's already warmed up might be a little too much.

  I thought that they should have gave him at least a few more minutes, he handled it badly though he kicked the chair after they told him he couldn't play anymore I just wonder at what point do you lift the minute restriction.

KG, I agree with you.  I watched that whole game.  Joel Embiid continues to be one of the highlights of this season.

I had the same comment.  They were on the verge of winning their 5th straight home game.  The game went into double overtime.  Yes, he had reached his strict minute restriction, but what real harm would sticking him in there for 2-3 more minutes have done? 

The thing is, everything I've read suggests that his foot is fine at this point and the minute restriction has more to do with his conditioning.  He hasn't played basketball in two years.  The concern is that if he pushes himself too much for extended periods of time, he might start to drag and could put himself at risk of injuring something.  The idea is that if you start huffing and puffing and dragging, you could get a little careless with your body and that's when little sprains and twists can happen.

But extended period of time doesn't mean bulk minutes over the course of the game.  What that means is, instead of playing him for 6-8 minute stretches where he might start to huff and puff the last two minutes, instead they play him for 3-4 minute stretches.  Over the course of a 48 minute game, they have him capped at 24 minutes.   They disperse those minutes evenly over the course of the game and make sure he's getting all the rest he can until his cardio allows him to play longer stretches without getting winded.   

A "24 minute per game" cap makes no sense.  A cap for the amount of continuous minutes he plays makes a lot more sense for what they are doing.  And on that note, it really doesn't make any logical sense why he couldn't exceed 24 minutes in an overtime game.  As long as he's getting appropriate rest between his time on the court, what difference does it make?  It's not like him standing on his feet for more than 24 minutes is going to make his foot break itself again.   

That said, he actually did exceed the restriction tonight and perhaps they felt it was just best that they not push it any more.  They plan on sitting him Friday.   Obviously, they are being super cautious.

Kid is incredible, though.  Just incredible.  I'm blown away every time I watch him.  It was originally reported that both he and Okafor were going to be on 24 minute restrictions until late December.  This week they changed their tune and said Okafor is no longer on any minute restriction.  I imagine they'll stick with their Embiid plan.  But if his restriction actually lifts in December and Ben Simmons comes back in mid January as many predict, I wouldnt at all be surprised to see that team go on a mini run over the final few months.  Could be great news for our Brooklyn pick.

wasn't it on the same time as the celtics?

[saltlover]

 Okay I get it the kid looks to be the franchise, and you don't want him to risk further injury.

  however after playing 27 minutes in a 91 - 91 ballgame going into overtime, to pull him from the game and not playing him another 5 minutes, after hus body's already warmed up might be a little too much.

  I thought that they should have gave him at least a few more minutes, he handled it badly though he kicked the chair after they told him he couldn't play anymore I just wonder at what point do you lift the minute restriction.

KG, I agree with you.  I watched that whole game.  Joel Embiid continues to be one of the highlights of this season.

I had the same comment.  They were on the verge of winning their 5th straight home game.  The game went into double overtime.  Yes, he had reached his strict minute restriction, but what real harm would sticking him in there for 2-3 more minutes have done? 

The thing is, everything I've read suggests that his foot is fine at this point and the minute restriction has more to do with his conditioning.  He hasn't played basketball in two years.  The concern is that if he pushes himself too much for extended periods of time, he might start to drag and could put himself at risk of injuring something.  The idea is that if you start huffing and puffing and dragging, you could get a little careless with your body and that's when little sprains and twists can happen.

But extended period of time doesn't mean bulk minutes over the course of the game.  What that means is, instead of playing him for 6-8 minute stretches where he might start to huff and puff the last two minutes, instead they play him for 3-4 minute stretches.  Over the course of a 48 minute game, they have him capped at 24 minutes.   They disperse those minutes evenly over the course of the game and make sure he's getting all the rest he can until his cardio allows him to play longer stretches without getting winded.   

A "24 minute per game" cap makes no sense.  A cap for the amount of continuous minutes he plays makes a lot more sense for what they are doing.  And on that note, it really doesn't make any logical sense why he couldn't exceed 24 minutes in an overtime game.  As long as he's getting appropriate rest between his time on the court, what difference does it make?  It's not like him standing on his feet for more than 24 minutes is going to make his foot break itself again.   

That said, he actually did exceed the restriction tonight and perhaps they felt it was just best that they not push it any more.  They plan on sitting him Friday.   Obviously, they are being super cautious.

Kid is incredible, though.  Just incredible.  I'm blown away every time I watch him.  It was originally reported that both he and Okafor were going to be on 24 minute restrictions until late December.  This week they changed their tune and said Okafor is no longer on any minute restriction.  I imagine they'll stick with their Embiid plan.  But if his restriction actually lifts in December and Ben Simmons comes back in mid January as many predict, I wouldnt at all be surprised to see that team go on a mini run over the final few months.  Could be great news for our Brooklyn pick.

wasn't it on the same time as the celtics?

You think he watches the Celtics?

[green_bballers13]

Haha this year I'm thankful that LarBrd continues to bring up the 76ers. It continues to make me happy to compare the Celtics to them. Lar and other 6er fans are hoping that this team comes together in a couple years, but I'm confident that they won't be able to keep all of these players. I still think Embiid is the only guy that sticks with them long term. No matter how good Anthony Davis is, the Pelicans are still brutal.

I am thankful that the Celtics are managed by professionals who value winning basketball games.

[GratefulCs]

 Okay I get it the kid looks to be the franchise, and you don't want him to risk further injury.

  however after playing 27 minutes in a 91 - 91 ballgame going into overtime, to pull him from the game and not playing him another 5 minutes, after hus body's already warmed up might be a little too much.

  I thought that they should have gave him at least a few more minutes, he handled it badly though he kicked the chair after they told him he couldn't play anymore I just wonder at what point do you lift the minute restriction.

KG, I agree with you.  I watched that whole game.  Joel Embiid continues to be one of the highlights of this season.

I had the same comment.  They were on the verge of winning their 5th straight home game.  The game went into double overtime.  Yes, he had reached his strict minute restriction, but what real harm would sticking him in there for 2-3 more minutes have done? 

The thing is, everything I've read suggests that his foot is fine at this point and the minute restriction has more to do with his conditioning.  He hasn't played basketball in two years.  The concern is that if he pushes himself too much for extended periods of time, he might start to drag and could put himself at risk of injuring something.  The idea is that if you start huffing and puffing and dragging, you could get a little careless with your body and that's when little sprains and twists can happen.

But extended period of time doesn't mean bulk minutes over the course of the game.  What that means is, instead of playing him for 6-8 minute stretches where he might start to huff and puff the last two minutes, instead they play him for 3-4 minute stretches.  Over the course of a 48 minute game, they have him capped at 24 minutes.   They disperse those minutes evenly over the course of the game and make sure he's getting all the rest he can until his cardio allows him to play longer stretches without getting winded.   

A "24 minute per game" cap makes no sense.  A cap for the amount of continuous minutes he plays makes a lot more sense for what they are doing.  And on that note, it really doesn't make any logical sense why he couldn't exceed 24 minutes in an overtime game.  As long as he's getting appropriate rest between his time on the court, what difference does it make?  It's not like him standing on his feet for more than 24 minutes is going to make his foot break itself again.   

That said, he actually did exceed the restriction tonight and perhaps they felt it was just best that they not push it any more.  They plan on sitting him Friday.   Obviously, they are being super cautious.

Kid is incredible, though.  Just incredible.  I'm blown away every time I watch him.  It was originally reported that both he and Okafor were going to be on 24 minute restrictions until late December.  This week they changed their tune and said Okafor is no longer on any minute restriction.  I imagine they'll stick with their Embiid plan.  But if his restriction actually lifts in December and Ben Simmons comes back in mid January as many predict, I wouldnt at all be surprised to see that team go on a mini run over the final few months.  Could be great news for our Brooklyn pick.

wasn't it on the same time as the celtics?

You think he watches the Celtics?

ha, not really sure!

[chilidawg]

I'm deftly afraid of what a fully healthy Sixers teams will look like a couple years from now without even considering the fact that they are still probably going to end up bottom 5 and have a shot at superstar PG prospects like Markelle Fultz or superstar SF prospects like Josh Jackson... not to mention the very real chance the Laker pick they own conveys this year in the 4-10 range.

All those guys will want to get paid, and I think some of them will bolt away from there.   No way all that talent stays.

That's the problem with extended tanking, by the time you're ready to compete the rookie deals start to expire.