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Re: Celtics (8-6) at Nets (4-9) Game #15 11/23/16
« Reply #330 on: November 23, 2016, 10:45:04 PM »

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I guess marcus doesnt care about his shooting percentage lol

Haha for real. Between stuff like that and shooting at the end of the shotclock all of the time, he unnecessarily kills his shooting percentages.
His shooting is as bad as it was last season.  His minutes are a little up this year.  Actually, if you look at his Per-36 numbers over the past 3 years it shows basically no improvement.  Maybe he'll make a leap though.  Still waiting.
the leap in shooting? Or the leap as a player?

Because he's clearly been PLAYING better recently.


His shooting is still blech-ish
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Re: Celtics (8-6) at Nets (4-9) Game #15 11/23/16
« Reply #331 on: November 23, 2016, 11:02:46 PM »

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Marcus Smart's playmaking ability and facilitating has been phenomenal this season.

I can't believe how much his handle has improved. He's always been an excellent passer but he has the dribbling skills to create offense from nothing now.

It's amazing how a guard can take over a game without scoring.
Every part of his game has improved- we just need his shooting to catch up.
Third year in the NBA guys, keep the faith!
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Read that last line again. One more time.

Re: Celtics (8-6) at Nets (4-9) Game #15 11/23/16
« Reply #332 on: November 23, 2016, 11:32:19 PM »

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I guess marcus doesnt care about his shooting percentage lol

Haha for real. Between stuff like that and shooting at the end of the shotclock all of the time, he unnecessarily kills his shooting percentages.
His shooting is as bad as it was last season.  His minutes are a little up this year.  Actually, if you look at his Per-36 numbers over the past 3 years it shows basically no improvement.  Maybe he'll make a leap though.  Still waiting.
the leap in shooting? Or the leap as a player?

Because he's clearly been PLAYING better recently.


His shooting is still blech-ish

Don't you know? Lar loves his fantasy stats guys.

I mean, this is the same guy who believes it's ok to use per 36 stats to evaluate Smart on his own, but it's not ok to use them to compare Smart and a young Ron Artest.
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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Re: Celtics (8-6) at Nets (4-9) Game #15 11/23/16
« Reply #333 on: November 23, 2016, 11:37:54 PM »

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I guess marcus doesnt care about his shooting percentage lol

Haha for real. Between stuff like that and shooting at the end of the shotclock all of the time, he unnecessarily kills his shooting percentages.
His shooting is as bad as it was last season.  His minutes are a little up this year.  Actually, if you look at his Per-36 numbers over the past 3 years it shows basically no improvement.  Maybe he'll make a leap though.  Still waiting.
the leap in shooting? Or the leap as a player?

Because he's clearly been PLAYING better recently.


His shooting is still blech-ish

Don't you know? Lar loves his fantasy stats guys.

I mean, this is the same guy who believes it's ok to use per 36 stats to evaluate Smart on his own, but it's not ok to use them to compare Smart and a young Ron Artest.
ya

It's narrative based baiting
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Re: Celtics (8-6) at Nets (4-9) Game #15 11/23/16
« Reply #334 on: November 23, 2016, 11:38:55 PM »

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I guess marcus doesnt care about his shooting percentage lol

Haha for real. Between stuff like that and shooting at the end of the shotclock all of the time, he unnecessarily kills his shooting percentages.
His shooting is as bad as it was last season.  His minutes are a little up this year.  Actually, if you look at his Per-36 numbers over the past 3 years it shows basically no improvement.  Maybe he'll make a leap though.  Still waiting.
the leap in shooting? Or the leap as a player?

Because he's clearly been PLAYING better recently.


His shooting is still blech-ish

Don't you know? Lar loves his fantasy stats guys.

I mean, this is the same guy who believes it's ok to use per 36 stats to evaluate Smart on his own, but it's not ok to use them to compare Smart and a young Ron Artest.
what do fantasy stats have to do with him shooting 20% tonight?   He's shown minimal improvement.  He was a solid role player his rookie year as well.  He's still a solid role player.

I think people forget that Marcus Smart was a quality defensive role player as a rookie.  People are finding progress that isn't necessarily there.   His basketball abilities, conventional stats, advanced stats, and his level impact on the game have remained pretty consistent since he entered the league. 

Re: Celtics (8-6) at Nets (4-9) Game #15 11/23/16
« Reply #335 on: November 23, 2016, 11:45:10 PM »

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I guess marcus doesnt care about his shooting percentage lol

Haha for real. Between stuff like that and shooting at the end of the shotclock all of the time, he unnecessarily kills his shooting percentages.
His shooting is as bad as it was last season.  His minutes are a little up this year.  Actually, if you look at his Per-36 numbers over the past 3 years it shows basically no improvement.  Maybe he'll make a leap though.  Still waiting.
the leap in shooting? Or the leap as a player?

Because he's clearly been PLAYING better recently.


His shooting is still blech-ish

Don't you know? Lar loves his fantasy stats guys.

I mean, this is the same guy who believes it's ok to use per 36 stats to evaluate Smart on his own, but it's not ok to use them to compare Smart and a young Ron Artest.
what do fantasy stats have to do with him shooting 20% tonight?   He's shown minimal improvement.  He was a solid role player his rookie year as well.  He's still a solid role player.

I think people forget that Marcus Smart was a quality defensive role player as a rookie.  People are finding progress that isn't necessarily there.
ya!

And he doesn't look any better running the point either!

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Re: Celtics (8-6) at Nets (4-9) Game #15 11/23/16
« Reply #336 on: November 23, 2016, 11:46:40 PM »

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I guess marcus doesnt care about his shooting percentage lol

Haha for real. Between stuff like that and shooting at the end of the shotclock all of the time, he unnecessarily kills his shooting percentages.
His shooting is as bad as it was last season.  His minutes are a little up this year.  Actually, if you look at his Per-36 numbers over the past 3 years it shows basically no improvement.  Maybe he'll make a leap though.  Still waiting.
the leap in shooting? Or the leap as a player?

Because he's clearly been PLAYING better recently.


His shooting is still blech-ish

Don't you know? Lar loves his fantasy stats guys.

I mean, this is the same guy who believes it's ok to use per 36 stats to evaluate Smart on his own, but it's not ok to use them to compare Smart and a young Ron Artest.
what do fantasy stats have to do with him shooting 20% tonight?   He's shown minimal improvement.  He was a solid role player his rookie year as well.  He's still a solid role player.

I think people forget that Marcus Smart was a quality defensive role player as a rookie.  People are finding progress that isn't necessarily there.   His basketball abilities, conventional stats, advanced stats, and his level impact on the game have remained pretty consistent since he entered the league.

I disagree. The stats are not really progressing, but his comfort with the ball, rhythm, and runners all look more consistent to me.

He was a spaz on offense as a rookie. He was out of control. He has largely been in control so far this season.

Re: Celtics (8-6) at Nets (4-9) Game #15 11/23/16
« Reply #337 on: November 24, 2016, 12:03:03 AM »

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I guess marcus doesnt care about his shooting percentage lol

Haha for real. Between stuff like that and shooting at the end of the shotclock all of the time, he unnecessarily kills his shooting percentages.
His shooting is as bad as it was last season.  His minutes are a little up this year.  Actually, if you look at his Per-36 numbers over the past 3 years it shows basically no improvement.  Maybe he'll make a leap though.  Still waiting.
the leap in shooting? Or the leap as a player?

Because he's clearly been PLAYING better recently.


His shooting is still blech-ish

Don't you know? Lar loves his fantasy stats guys.

I mean, this is the same guy who believes it's ok to use per 36 stats to evaluate Smart on his own, but it's not ok to use them to compare Smart and a young Ron Artest.
what do fantasy stats have to do with him shooting 20% tonight?   He's shown minimal improvement.  He was a solid role player his rookie year as well.  He's still a solid role player.

I think people forget that Marcus Smart was a quality defensive role player as a rookie.  People are finding progress that isn't necessarily there.   His basketball abilities, conventional stats, advanced stats, and his level impact on the game have remained pretty consistent since he entered the league.

I disagree. The stats are not really progressing, but his comfort with the ball, rhythm, and runners all look more consistent to me.

He was a spaz on offense as a rookie. He was out of control. He has largely been in control so far this season.
I think that has more to do with the supporting cast improving and having some key talent upgrades at some key positions.   Smart individually looks about the same as he's always looked.  His role is modified a bit.

Re: Celtics (8-6) at Nets (4-9) Game #15 11/23/16
« Reply #338 on: November 24, 2016, 12:04:08 AM »

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I guess marcus doesnt care about his shooting percentage lol

Haha for real. Between stuff like that and shooting at the end of the shotclock all of the time, he unnecessarily kills his shooting percentages.
His shooting is as bad as it was last season.  His minutes are a little up this year.  Actually, if you look at his Per-36 numbers over the past 3 years it shows basically no improvement.  Maybe he'll make a leap though.  Still waiting.
the leap in shooting? Or the leap as a player?

Because he's clearly been PLAYING better recently.


His shooting is still blech-ish

Don't you know? Lar loves his fantasy stats guys.

I mean, this is the same guy who believes it's ok to use per 36 stats to evaluate Smart on his own, but it's not ok to use them to compare Smart and a young Ron Artest.
what do fantasy stats have to do with him shooting 20% tonight?   He's shown minimal improvement.  He was a solid role player his rookie year as well.  He's still a solid role player.

I think people forget that Marcus Smart was a quality defensive role player as a rookie.  People are finding progress that isn't necessarily there.   His basketball abilities, conventional stats, advanced stats, and his level impact on the game have remained pretty consistent since he entered the league.

I disagree. The stats are not really progressing, but his comfort with the ball, rhythm, and runners all look more consistent to me.

He was a spaz on offense as a rookie. He was out of control. He has largely been in control so far this season.

I mean, LB wants to cherry pick a night, but he went for 8 assists against 1 turnover, 8 boards, 2 steals, and a block.  Don't let him cherry pick.  Entering tonight he's making 1/3 more of his 3's this year than last year.  That's actual improvement, despite what he says.

Re: Celtics (8-6) at Nets (4-9) Game #15 11/23/16
« Reply #339 on: November 24, 2016, 12:08:29 AM »

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I guess marcus doesnt care about his shooting percentage lol

Haha for real. Between stuff like that and shooting at the end of the shotclock all of the time, he unnecessarily kills his shooting percentages.
His shooting is as bad as it was last season.  His minutes are a little up this year.  Actually, if you look at his Per-36 numbers over the past 3 years it shows basically no improvement.  Maybe he'll make a leap though.  Still waiting.
the leap in shooting? Or the leap as a player?

Because he's clearly been PLAYING better recently.


His shooting is still blech-ish

Don't you know? Lar loves his fantasy stats guys.

I mean, this is the same guy who believes it's ok to use per 36 stats to evaluate Smart on his own, but it's not ok to use them to compare Smart and a young Ron Artest.
what do fantasy stats have to do with him shooting 20% tonight?   He's shown minimal improvement.  He was a solid role player his rookie year as well.  He's still a solid role player.

I think people forget that Marcus Smart was a quality defensive role player as a rookie.  People are finding progress that isn't necessarily there.   His basketball abilities, conventional stats, advanced stats, and his level impact on the game have remained pretty consistent since he entered the league.

I disagree. The stats are not really progressing, but his comfort with the ball, rhythm, and runners all look more consistent to me.

He was a spaz on offense as a rookie. He was out of control. He has largely been in control so far this season.
I think that has more to do with the supporting cast improving and having some key talent upgrades at some key positions.   Smart individually looks about the same as he's always looked.  His role is modified a bit.
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Re: Celtics (8-6) at Nets (4-9) Game #15 11/23/16
« Reply #340 on: November 24, 2016, 12:34:56 AM »

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I guess marcus doesnt care about his shooting percentage lol

Haha for real. Between stuff like that and shooting at the end of the shotclock all of the time, he unnecessarily kills his shooting percentages.
His shooting is as bad as it was last season.  His minutes are a little up this year.  Actually, if you look at his Per-36 numbers over the past 3 years it shows basically no improvement.  Maybe he'll make a leap though.  Still waiting.
the leap in shooting? Or the leap as a player?

Because he's clearly been PLAYING better recently.


His shooting is still blech-ish

Don't you know? Lar loves his fantasy stats guys.

I mean, this is the same guy who believes it's ok to use per 36 stats to evaluate Smart on his own, but it's not ok to use them to compare Smart and a young Ron Artest.
what do fantasy stats have to do with him shooting 20% tonight?   He's shown minimal improvement.  He was a solid role player his rookie year as well.  He's still a solid role player.

I think people forget that Marcus Smart was a quality defensive role player as a rookie.  People are finding progress that isn't necessarily there.   His basketball abilities, conventional stats, advanced stats, and his level impact on the game have remained pretty consistent since he entered the league.

I disagree. The stats are not really progressing, but his comfort with the ball, rhythm, and runners all look more consistent to me.

He was a spaz on offense as a rookie. He was out of control. He has largely been in control so far this season.
I think that has more to do with the supporting cast improving and having some key talent upgrades at some key positions.   Smart individually looks about the same as he's always looked.  His role is modified a bit.

No one respects Marcus Smart more than you, you can't think of any team or scenario that would be interested in him, and any improvements he has made have more to do with other people?

Do you have more than one person blogging under your account name? If not, why are you all over the place?
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Re: Celtics (8-6) at Nets (4-9) Game #15 11/23/16
« Reply #341 on: November 24, 2016, 01:46:52 AM »

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I guess marcus doesnt care about his shooting percentage lol

Haha for real. Between stuff like that and shooting at the end of the shotclock all of the time, he unnecessarily kills his shooting percentages.
His shooting is as bad as it was last season.  His minutes are a little up this year.  Actually, if you look at his Per-36 numbers over the past 3 years it shows basically no improvement.  Maybe he'll make a leap though.  Still waiting.
the leap in shooting? Or the leap as a player?

Because he's clearly been PLAYING better recently.


His shooting is still blech-ish

Don't you know? Lar loves his fantasy stats guys.

I mean, this is the same guy who believes it's ok to use per 36 stats to evaluate Smart on his own, but it's not ok to use them to compare Smart and a young Ron Artest.
what do fantasy stats have to do with him shooting 20% tonight?   He's shown minimal improvement.  He was a solid role player his rookie year as well.  He's still a solid role player.

I think people forget that Marcus Smart was a quality defensive role player as a rookie.  People are finding progress that isn't necessarily there.   His basketball abilities, conventional stats, advanced stats, and his level impact on the game have remained pretty consistent since he entered the league.

I disagree. The stats are not really progressing, but his comfort with the ball, rhythm, and runners all look more consistent to me.

He was a spaz on offense as a rookie. He was out of control. He has largely been in control so far this season.
I think that has more to do with the supporting cast improving and having some key talent upgrades at some key positions.   Smart individually looks about the same as he's always looked.  His role is modified a bit.

Smart is a top 5 player in a draft he went #6.

He is a better player then Nerlens or Jahlil, and is providing more to a winning team than any of the guys drafted around him.

Marcus is on track to be a hell of a player.

LarBrd would trade him for Stauskas lol...

If something thinks Smart is a bad player, they also have to think Brad is a bad coachabit.

I wish I could have seen how much LarBrd would have hated Pierce back in the day.

Re: Celtics (8-6) at Nets (4-9) Game #15 11/23/16
« Reply #342 on: November 24, 2016, 01:52:55 AM »

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It is funny how a certain poster is able to take the quality of the board down a few notches by himself, and is proud of it

Been posting on this blog since 06, and have never seen a poster be as intentionally irritating

Re: Celtics (8-6) at Nets (4-9) Game #15 11/23/16
« Reply #343 on: November 24, 2016, 02:04:46 AM »

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It is funny how a certain poster is able to take the quality of the board down a few notches by himself, and is proud of it

Been posting on this blog since 06, and have never seen a poster be as intentionally irritating

TP, brother.

Re: Celtics (8-6) at Nets (4-9) Game #15 11/23/16
« Reply #344 on: November 24, 2016, 02:22:49 AM »

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I guess marcus doesnt care about his shooting percentage lol

Haha for real. Between stuff like that and shooting at the end of the shotclock all of the time, he unnecessarily kills his shooting percentages.
His shooting is as bad as it was last season.  His minutes are a little up this year.  Actually, if you look at his Per-36 numbers over the past 3 years it shows basically no improvement.  Maybe he'll make a leap though.  Still waiting.
the leap in shooting? Or the leap as a player?

Because he's clearly been PLAYING better recently.


His shooting is still blech-ish

Don't you know? Lar loves his fantasy stats guys.

I mean, this is the same guy who believes it's ok to use per 36 stats to evaluate Smart on his own, but it's not ok to use them to compare Smart and a young Ron Artest.
what do fantasy stats have to do with him shooting 20% tonight?   He's shown minimal improvement.  He was a solid role player his rookie year as well.  He's still a solid role player.

I think people forget that Marcus Smart was a quality defensive role player as a rookie.  People are finding progress that isn't necessarily there.   His basketball abilities, conventional stats, advanced stats, and his level impact on the game have remained pretty consistent since he entered the league.

I disagree. The stats are not really progressing, but his comfort with the ball, rhythm, and runners all look more consistent to me.

He was a spaz on offense as a rookie. He was out of control. He has largely been in control so far this season.
I think that has more to do with the supporting cast improving and having some key talent upgrades at some key positions.   Smart individually looks about the same as he's always looked.  His role is modified a bit.
Do you have more than one person blogging under your account name? If not, why are you all over the place?
Yes, he started farming out most of his CelticsBlog contributions years ago when his fantasy basketball duties started consuming too much of his time.  Now we're basically the Banksy of Celticsblog.  A large percentage of posts are done by committee.  The rest are scripted bot responses usually triggered by references to the sixers.  LarBrd33 is more an idea than a person.

Look, nobody has more respect for Marcus smart than me.  He's a quality role player.  He's helping us win games.  This team should finish top 3 in the East and Marcus is going to make positive contributions along the way.   But let's not ignore his shortcomings.  He's still falling short of expectations.  He's done positive things this season, but that's nothing new.  He made positive contributions the last two years as well.  His "improvement" has been minimal and that's the concern.  He's still the same quality role player he was as a rookie.  If you hate the stats that back this up, go back and watch his games his rookie season. It's the same player.  In some ways he's regressed. Nice game tonight, but his shooting is bottoming out when everyone hoped we'd see progress.  His role is a little different this year.  More minutes and more ball handling duties but Evan Turner deserves most of the credit for that. 
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