Author Topic: Marcus Smart so far: 13.5ppg, 3.8 rebounds, 2.5 assists. 36% 3 pt, 47% 2pfg  (Read 13100 times)

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Offline LilRip

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another solid night for Marcus. Just all over the box score and excellent defense. He somehow ended up -3 in plusminus but was clearly keeping us in this game.

15 points, 50%fg, 50% 3pfg, 4 steals, 3 assists, 6 rebounds.

Excellent night.
Is "single-handedly lost game for team in the last minute" a column in the stat sheet?
No, but it is in the "relentlessly negative posting" spreadsheet. You filled that column up very well.

Lol TP to you and BitterJim. I swear, some of these posters on CB...
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Smart has been really, really good this season.

I did notice that late in the game yesterday, when it seemed like we needed a second shot creator to take pressure off of Thomas, that Smart continued to reset the offense back to Thomas. He wasn't aggressive.

In one sense, I like that he was letting the game come to him. Sometimes he has forced the issue too much. However, in another sense, I think he needed to force it a bit to help us get some good shots.

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another solid night for Marcus. Just all over the box score and excellent defense. He somehow ended up -3 in plusminus but was clearly keeping us in this game.

15 points, 50%fg, 50% 3pfg, 4 steals, 3 assists, 6 rebounds.

Excellent night.
Is "single-handedly lost game for team in the last minute" a column in the stat sheet?

Please explain this post.  Makes zero sense if you actually watched the game.  Smart didn't even get the ball.  IT and AB were playing hero ball and killing us down the stretch, Olynyk made a bad foul.
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another solid night for Marcus. Just all over the box score and excellent defense. He somehow ended up -3 in plusminus but was clearly keeping us in this game.

15 points, 50%fg, 50% 3pfg, 4 steals, 3 assists, 6 rebounds.

Excellent night.
Is "single-handedly lost game for team in the last minute" a column in the stat sheet?

Please explain this post.  Makes zero sense if you actually watched the game.  Smart didn't even get the ball.  IT and AB were playing hero ball and killing us down the stretch, Olynyk made a bad foul.

Smart did have that inbound pass that Frazier stole. Honestly, that play was stiff to begin with and Smart was about to get a 5 second violation.

There were several bad plays at the end of the game, but we win that game with Horford and Crowder.

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another solid night for Marcus. Just all over the box score and excellent defense. He somehow ended up -3 in plusminus but was clearly keeping us in this game.

15 points, 50%fg, 50% 3pfg, 4 steals, 3 assists, 6 rebounds.

Excellent night.
Is "single-handedly lost game for team in the last minute" a column in the stat sheet?

Please explain this post.  Makes zero sense if you actually watched the game.  Smart didn't even get the ball.  IT and AB were playing hero ball and killing us down the stretch, Olynyk made a bad foul.

Smart did have that inbound pass that Frazier stole. Honestly, that play was stiff to begin with and Smart was about to get a 5 second violation.



Okay yes fair point on that one play, slipped my mind, but he really is not the guy to blame.

I think Bradley was really, really bad down the stretch.  I love that he improved his ball handling but he is becoming a ball hog at times, pounding the ball into screen and rolls over and over again and looking people off when he is not THAT good at it as he is seeming to think.  IT and AB played hero ball down the stretch and that cost us.  I aim that more at Bradley than IT.  IT was great really but there were some possessions where he took bad shots for sure.

Jerebko was also playing a lot down the stretch and he has been almost totally useless this year, especially on offense.

I agree Crowder and Horford help a ton but I still think there are things that need to be cleaned up. I think Smart is underused a lot of these games.  He needs the ball to be effective and AB is better off ball, no matter if he has improved with the ball this year.  If you gave Smart the ball and let Bradley work off ball and cut it would make for better offense.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2016, 11:56:10 AM by Snakehead »
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another solid night for Marcus. Just all over the box score and excellent defense. He somehow ended up -3 in plusminus but was clearly keeping us in this game.

15 points, 50%fg, 50% 3pfg, 4 steals, 3 assists, 6 rebounds.

Excellent night.
Is "single-handedly lost game for team in the last minute" a column in the stat sheet?

Please explain this post.  Makes zero sense if you actually watched the game.  Smart didn't even get the ball.  IT and AB were playing hero ball and killing us down the stretch, Olynyk made a bad foul.

Smart did have that inbound pass that Frazier stole. Honestly, that play was stiff to begin with and Smart was about to get a 5 second violation.



Okay yes fair point on that one play, slipped my mind, but he really is not the guy to blame.

I think Bradley was really, really bad down the stretch.  I love that he improved his ball handling but he is becoming a ball hog at times, pounding the ball into screen and rolls over and over again and looking people off when he is not THAT good at it as he is seeming to think.  IT and AB played hero ball down the stretch and that cost us.  I aim that more at Bradley than IT.  IT was great really but there were some possessions where he took bad shots for sure.

Jerebko was also playing a lot down the stretch and he has been almost totally useless this year, especially on offense.

I agree Crowder and Horford help a ton but I still think there are things that need to be cleaned up. I think Smart is underused a lot of these games.  He needs the ball to be effective and AB is better off ball, no matter if he has improved with the ball this year.  If you gave Smart the ball and let Bradley work off ball and cut it would make for better offense.

I agree with this point, a lot of great things happen when IT and Smart handles the ball. I would like to see Smart handle the ball permanently when IT is on the bench, and when they are both on the court, IT handles the ball. I want to see Bradley and Rozier handle less and kinda slip into more of a SG role.

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another solid night for Marcus. Just all over the box score and excellent defense. He somehow ended up -3 in plusminus but was clearly keeping us in this game.t

15 points, 50%fg, 50% 3pfg, 4 steals, 3 assists, 6 rebounds.

Excellent night.
Is "single-handedly lost game for team in the last minute" a column in the stat sheet?

Please explain this post.  Makes zero sense if you actually watched the game.  Smart didn't even get the ball.  IT and AB were playing hero ball and killing us down the stretch, Olynyk made a bad foul.

Smart did have that inbound pass that Frazier stole. Honestly, that play was stiff to begin with and Smart was about to get a 5 second violation.



Okay yes fair point on that one play, slipped my mind, but he really is not the guy to blame.

I think Bradley was really, really bad down the stretch.  I love that he improved his ball handling but he is becoming a ball hog at times, pounding the ball into screen and rolls over and over again and looking people off when he is not THAT good at it as he is seeming to think.  IT and AB played hero ball down the stretch and that cost us.  I aim that more at Bradley than IT.  IT was great really but there were some possessions where he took bad shots for sure.

Jerebko was also playing a lot down the stretch and he has been almost totally useless this year, especially on offense.

I agree Crowder and Horford help a ton but I still think there are things that need to be cleaned up. I think Smart is underused a lot of these games.  He needs the ball to be effective and AB is better off ball, no matter if he has improved with the ball this year.  If you gave Smart the ball and let Bradley work off ball and cut it would make for better offense.

I agree with this point, a lot of great things happen when IT and Smart handles the ball. I would like to see Smart handle the ball permanently when IT is on the bench, and when they are both on the court, IT handles the ball. I want to see Bradley and Rozier handle less and kinda slip into more of a SG role.


Yep.

People are going on about Bradley's handle and passing because he managed to get 6 assists in a game.  Meanwhile Smart had 10 in the one game they let him actually run point this season (and could have had 12+ if people hit easy shots).  He is being wasted and the offense suffers.  Down the stretch he was around the three pt line being looked off and thats it.
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another solid night for Marcus. Just all over the box score and excellent defense. He somehow ended up -3 in plusminus but was clearly keeping us in this game.t

15 points, 50%fg, 50% 3pfg, 4 steals, 3 assists, 6 rebounds.

Excellent night.
Is "single-handedly lost game for team in the last minute" a column in the stat sheet?

Please explain this post.  Makes zero sense if you actually watched the game.  Smart didn't even get the ball.  IT and AB were playing hero ball and killing us down the stretch, Olynyk made a bad foul.

Smart did have that inbound pass that Frazier stole. Honestly, that play was stiff to begin with and Smart was about to get a 5 second violation.



Okay yes fair point on that one play, slipped my mind, but he really is not the guy to blame.

I think Bradley was really, really bad down the stretch.  I love that he improved his ball handling but he is becoming a ball hog at times, pounding the ball into screen and rolls over and over again and looking people off when he is not THAT good at it as he is seeming to think.  IT and AB played hero ball down the stretch and that cost us.  I aim that more at Bradley than IT.  IT was great really but there were some possessions where he took bad shots for sure.

Jerebko was also playing a lot down the stretch and he has been almost totally useless this year, especially on offense.

I agree Crowder and Horford help a ton but I still think there are things that need to be cleaned up. I think Smart is underused a lot of these games.  He needs the ball to be effective and AB is better off ball, no matter if he has improved with the ball this year.  If you gave Smart the ball and let Bradley work off ball and cut it would make for better offense.

I agree with this point, a lot of great things happen when IT and Smart handles the ball. I would like to see Smart handle the ball permanently when IT is on the bench, and when they are both on the court, IT handles the ball. I want to see Bradley and Rozier handle less and kinda slip into more of a SG role.


Yep.

People are going on about Bradley's handle and passing because he managed to get 6 assists in a game.  Meanwhile Smart had 10 in the one game they let him actually run point this season (and could have had 12+ if people hit easy shots).  He is being wasted and the offense suffers.  Down the stretch he was around the three pt line being looked off and thats it.

I mean Bradley's ball handling did noticeably improved from a year ago and his rebounding as well. But I rather have him do his thing if it is a one on one situation, but I rather Smart and IT do primarily most of the ball handling. Most situations this year has been, all defer to IT and Bradley...we must go back to a year ago when Turner was here and doing the primary ball handling when IT was on the bench...the team played more a a team than a one man team a year ago. IT will always be IT, but the rest of the team must move the ball better. I think Smart can provide that better than anyone else on the team not named IT4, hell I even say he wants to do it, and keep his teammates involved compare to IT

We are wasting some of his talent by not letting him loose

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His per game numbers have gone up because his minutes are up, but he's not much better than previous seasons when you look at per36 or advanced metrics that don't depend on playing time.
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His per game numbers have gone up because his minutes are up, but he's not much better than previous seasons when you look at per36 or advanced metrics that don't depend on playing time.

Isn't his shooting a lot better?

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His per game numbers have gone up because his minutes are up, but he's not much better than previous seasons when you look at per36 or advanced metrics that don't depend on playing time.

Isn't his shooting a lot better?

Yes, he's taking more shots and hitting them at a better clip
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another solid night for Marcus. Just all over the box score and excellent defense. He somehow ended up -3 in plusminus but was clearly keeping us in this game.

15 points, 50%fg, 50% 3pfg, 4 steals, 3 assists, 6 rebounds.

Excellent night.
Is "single-handedly lost game for team in the last minute" a column in the stat sheet?
I understand how the Marcus Smart fanatics can be annoying when they disregard his faults but why do you have to come in with the buzz kill. It's not cool.

Smart is playing some of the best ball of his career so far. The trick will be maintaining that when Horford and Crowder come back since there will be less opportunities.

« Last Edit: November 15, 2016, 02:46:53 PM by TrueFan »

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I'm glad to see that Marcus is doing a better job hitting outside shots and running the pick and roll.  He's also keeping up production with an increase in role and minutes, which is encouraging.


On the other hand, I'm troubled by the fact that he's not getting to the line (2.0 attempts per 36), he's still not getting to the rim that often (less than a quarter of his attempts), and he is finishing at a below average rate when he does get there (52%).
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His per game numbers have gone up because his minutes are up, but he's not much better than previous seasons when you look at per36 or advanced metrics that don't depend on playing time.
his shooting so far this season has risen from historically bad to borderline mediocre. That's big league

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I'm glad to see that Marcus is doing a better job hitting outside shots and running the pick and roll.  He's also keeping up production with an increase in role and minutes, which is encouraging.


On the other hand, I'm troubled by the fact that he's not getting to the line (2.0 attempts per 36), he's still not getting to the rim that often (less than a quarter of his attempts), and he is finishing at a below average rate when he does get there (52%).
Maybe he's just maturing and understanding his game and what not to do. He was never really that good at attacking the rim. He might figure it out one day and when he does his free throws attempts will improve.