Poll: IT for Noel+Saric+ Laker's First

[KG Living Legend]

 Modified idea from the O.P.

 You have to at least consider this. If Okafor is in the deal it's a no Brainer asset wise. Add to that we have to pay IT mega bucks soon. Add to that we have Smart, Rozier, and Jackson.

[alldaboston]

I mean, sure. But i said this in the first thread and I'll say it here again: neither team does this deal.

Boston wants to win now, and just promised Horford the opportunity to play alongside IT for at least the next few years. Trade IT, and it leaves a bad image of the organization across the league, and good luck getting another free agent to sign with you.

Philly is not trying to win now. They're all about developing their younger players. IT literally does nothing for them.

Value-wise, its a decent trade. but in the real world, it makes no sense for either team.

[KG Living Legend]

I mean, sure. But i said this in the first thread and I'll say it here again: neither team does this deal.

Boston wants to win now, and just promised Horford the opportunity to play alongside IT for at least the next few years. Trade IT, and it leaves a bad image of the organization across the league, and good luck getting another free agent to sign with you.

Philly is not trying to win now. They're all about developing their younger players. IT literally does nothing for them.

Value-wise, its a decent trade. but in the real world, it makes no sense for either team.

 I don't really care about image across the League. Ainge shouldn't either.

.if the trade is a win you do it. We might be a better team with the new players. Horford came here to win.

 If we win he won't be complaining.

[detour]

I replied yes. First of all, if Noel doesn't recover nicely, it all goes down. But if he becomes reliably healthy, he provides instant rebounding and rim protection, which we currently lack. Plus he has multiple years of rookie contract which is very valuable for a contender team.

I have watched Saric play here in Istanbul many times. He has insane ball handling skills for his size, and provides 3 point shooting/scoring off the bench. His problem in Europe was mainly lack of a clear role and his usage didn't allow for development. CBS can solve this, and I also believe Saric has room for development.

Laker first is unclear but let's say it will be between 10 to 20. This is, let's say, another 50/50 gamble in a solid bench guy. If we are very lucky and draft is deep, a starter.

Add to all that we will have to pay up max contract to IT soon... I love him and respect him very much, but paying max to an aging, undersized, defensively mediocre point guard; however great his offensive firepower is, is not a great prospect when it's compared to above trade. That being said, Philly wouldn't probably accept this trade.

[tazzmaniac]

I'd do it but I can't see the Sixers making that trade.  3 lottery pick players/picks is a significant overpay for IT.  With Simmons and Embiid, IT is exactly the wrong type of PG for them.  Bradley would be our best player for them:  good on catch and shoot, 3pt shooting and defense.       

[PhoSita]

Sure, let's not contend and not make the playoffs.  We can always cram more draft picks into this roster.  Right?

[alldaboston]

I mean, sure. But i said this in the first thread and I'll say it here again: neither team does this deal.

Boston wants to win now, and just promised Horford the opportunity to play alongside IT for at least the next few years. Trade IT, and it leaves a bad image of the organization across the league, and good luck getting another free agent to sign with you.

Philly is not trying to win now. They're all about developing their younger players. IT literally does nothing for them.

Value-wise, its a decent trade. but in the real world, it makes no sense for either team.

 I don't really care about image across the League. Ainge shouldn't either.

.if the trade is a win you do it. We might be a better team with the new players. Horford came here to win.

 If we win he won't be complaining.

there's no way we replace IT (our only source of offense) with a bigman who cant score, a decent stretch 4 in saric, and a pick that could very well not even be in the top 10, and end up a better team. if you were trying to develop for the future, sure, you've now got 2 more guys you can build around. but, like you said, Horford came here to win. that team would not be winning.

[celticsclay]

I mean, sure. But i said this in the first thread and I'll say it here again: neither team does this deal.

Boston wants to win now, and just promised Horford the opportunity to play alongside IT for at least the next few years. Trade IT, and it leaves a bad image of the organization across the league, and good luck getting another free agent to sign with you.

Philly is not trying to win now. They're all about developing their younger players. IT literally does nothing for them.

Value-wise, its a decent trade. but in the real world, it makes no sense for either team.

 I don't really care about image across the League. Ainge shouldn't either.

.if the trade is a win you do it. We might be a better team with the new players. Horford came here to win.

 If we win he won't be complaining.

there's no way we replace IT (our only source of offense) with a bigman who cant score, a decent stretch 4 in saric, and a pick that could very well not even be in the top 10, and end up a better team. if you were trying to develop for the future, sure, you've now got 2 more guys you can build around. but, like you said, Horford came here to win. that team would not be winning.

 Is it just national make IT trades proposal day? This is getting weird.

Here are some basic basketball facts. Philly is not in win now mode. They are being extremely cautious with their young players on minute limits and minute restrictions. They currently are lined up to have the top pick in the draft. Why in the world do they would to add an all-star to their team that is 6-7 years older than their young players and will move them to the back end of the lottery or at least out of the top 5. Why?

Why do the Celtics reverse course 7 games after offering a guy 120 million over 4 years when half their team has been injured? Why add another draft pick and do a 4-1 trade when we already don't have enough roster spots?

Lets use some common sense with this stuff guys. This is no way makes any sense for either team and making multiple proposals about and polls is pretty silly.

[csfansince60s]

I mean, sure. But i said this in the first thread and I'll say it here again: neither team does this deal.

Boston wants to win now, and just promised Horford the opportunity to play alongside IT for at least the next few years. Trade IT, and it leaves a bad image of the organization across the league, and good luck getting another free agent to sign with you.

Philly is not trying to win now. They're all about developing their younger players. IT literally does nothing for them.

Value-wise, its a decent trade. but in the real world, it makes no sense for either team.

TP...what he said...and TP to celticsclay too.

[Bobshot]

I said yes because I don't think they are going to ante up for what IT wants to stay here. They got him on the cheap, and he wants to get paid next time.

I do wish they would deal for Okafor or Noel. Okafor is pretty much unstoppable on offense around the basket. Great inside complement to Horford on offense. Noel is the defensive counterpart. Probably one is available. Doubt they'll deal Saric. He hasn't shown that much yet.

[chilidawg]

absolutely if you're the Celtics, no way if you're Philly.

[LarBrd33]

Philly says no

[KG Living Legend]

Philly says no

 How about if you remove the first round pick from the deal. Does Philly still say no

[walker834]

how about if we add the 17 brooklyn  pick plus IT for both Okafor and Noel?   No need to get the lakers involved.

Giving up IT is a bit much to me.  I'm of the belief Marcus starts he's a better scorer than people think but IT is still our primary scorer.  I'd rather give them rozier.

I'm not opposed to trading IT or next years pick by any means though if it equals big men.

I'd rather a core of Smart, Bradley, Jaylen, Okafor and Noel for the future than what we are doing now for sure.

[walker834]

IT + 17 brooklyn pick for Noel  and Okafor.  Done.  Fans are living in lala land thinking we are going to sway philly for less imo.  DA really needs to be aggressive too imo.  I don't think he is.

Shake it up. That's what this team needs.  So does Philly.