The most talked about inconsequential trade?

[TheSundanceKid]

Melo to the Knicks

Lol! I mean he did take the Knicks back to the playoffs at least but that trade is still talked about and neither side has really done anything since

[Moranis]

The Lakers will need at least 40 wins to make the playoffs.

[celticsclay]

If that Lakers pick winds up outside of the top 10 I'll eat my shoe on youtube.

Can we please hold you to this?

You really think there is no chance they finish ahead of

Philly
New Orleans
Brooklyn
Phoenix
Dallas
Minnesota
Denver
Sacramento
Washington
Miami

All those teams have really serious flaws and it is easy to see a team like Miami offloading Dragic and going for a youth movement or Washington deciding to blow it up if they continue to struggle. If you look at these teams there are just so many bad ones. Teams like Dallas and Miami  desperately need to add some more young talent and I don't even know what a team like Washington does.

[celticsclay]

NOP finished with 30 wins last year and had the 6th worst record.  To make the playoffs the Lakers are probably going to have to get 41 wins.   I don't see that happening with as bad as their defense is.  Their next 5 games are rather easy so they better go 4-1 to build up a cushion.   


 

Well it seems like other teams have gotten worse (Rockets, Mavs, Grizzlies, OKC) while the Lakers have improved more than teams like the Twolves, Suns, Nuggets, Pelicans and Kings. If you look at the Lakers they didn't really lose anyone and added a really solid veteran in Deng, an ok big in Mosgov and have young guys continuing to develop. A team like the Kings lost Rondo and didn't really add anyone. The Nuggets didn't really add anyone. The Pelicans lost Anderson and didn't really add anyone.

Edit: I guess I should have figured this thread would get derailed by people upset about the idea that the Lakers could exceed expectations. I want the Lakers to be terrible as much as the next Celtics fan, but the fact is they look really good so far. They beat the Warriors, they beat Atlanta in Atlanta and beat an amped up Rockets team at home. Their losses have been competitive and to good teams (okc and utah on road, pacers).
 Double Edit: This is also great news for our nets pick.

You were the one that started this thread after only 7 games into the season.  Seems pretty early to be calling the MCW trade an inconsequential trade.  We don't know what pick it will actually be.  We don't know who the Sixers will draft with the pick.  Heck the pick could end up being traded.   

I watched the Lakers Warriors and some of the Lakers Rocket game.  Got to see some really lousy defense from all teams.  If the Lakers do make the playoffs, it will be more of an indictment on how far the level of play in the Western conference has fallen.

Yes the Lakers could certainly turn around and collapse. At a minimum it looks like they are trying to win as many games as possible this year, which certainly was not true the last few seasons. It looks like the veteran and young mix has good chemistry and that Walton is a good coach.
That trade could very well be the most discussed non-celtic trade on these forums for the last few years. I reiterate that this will be pretty funny from both sides if the Lakers keep this up. It is funny for the MCW side cause he is worse than anyone could have imagined. He at least seemed like he could be an average NBA starting point guard and has collapsed. Meanwhile, I don't think anyone thought in their wildest dreams the Lakers would be competitive this year. Your response seems overly defensive to the concept that this trade could have been much ado about nothing.

[tazzmaniac]

NOP finished with 30 wins last year and had the 6th worst record.  To make the playoffs the Lakers are probably going to have to get 41 wins.   I don't see that happening with as bad as their defense is.  Their next 5 games are rather easy so they better go 4-1 to build up a cushion.   


 

Well it seems like other teams have gotten worse (Rockets, Mavs, Grizzlies, OKC) while the Lakers have improved more than teams like the Twolves, Suns, Nuggets, Pelicans and Kings. If you look at the Lakers they didn't really lose anyone and added a really solid veteran in Deng, an ok big in Mosgov and have young guys continuing to develop. A team like the Kings lost Rondo and didn't really add anyone. The Nuggets didn't really add anyone. The Pelicans lost Anderson and didn't really add anyone.

Edit: I guess I should have figured this thread would get derailed by people upset about the idea that the Lakers could exceed expectations. I want the Lakers to be terrible as much as the next Celtics fan, but the fact is they look really good so far. They beat the Warriors, they beat Atlanta in Atlanta and beat an amped up Rockets team at home. Their losses have been competitive and to good teams (okc and utah on road, pacers).
 Double Edit: This is also great news for our nets pick.

You were the one that started this thread after only 7 games into the season.  Seems pretty early to be calling the MCW trade an inconsequential trade.  We don't know what pick it will actually be.  We don't know who the Sixers will draft with the pick.  Heck the pick could end up being traded.   

I watched the Lakers Warriors and some of the Lakers Rocket game.  Got to see some really lousy defense from all teams.  If the Lakers do make the playoffs, it will be more of an indictment on how far the level of play in the Western conference has fallen.

Yes the Lakers could certainly turn around and collapse. At a minimum it looks like they are trying to win as many games as possible this year, which certainly was not true the last few seasons. It looks like the veteran and young mix has good chemistry and that Walton is a good coach.
That trade could very well be the most discussed non-celtic trade on these forums for the last few years. I reiterate that this will be pretty funny from both sides if the Lakers keep this up. It is funny for the MCW side cause he is worse than anyone could have imagined. He at least seemed like he could be an average NBA starting point guard and has collapsed. Meanwhile, I don't think anyone thought in their wildest dreams the Lakers would be competitive this year. Your response seems overly defensive to the concept that this trade could have been much ado about nothing.

Just find it silly to be speculating on whether or not the trade is inconsequential 7 games into the season.  The Lakers are only 4 games ahead of the 0-7 Pelicans.  Another possibility I didn't mention was they could end up with a top 3 pick (either by bad record or lottery luck) which would push the discussion to next year with the Sixers having the Lakers unprotected 1st.  Finally since we're talking Lakers, I'll point out that Kobe was a 13th pick. 

[celticsclay]

NOP finished with 30 wins last year and had the 6th worst record.  To make the playoffs the Lakers are probably going to have to get 41 wins.   I don't see that happening with as bad as their defense is.  Their next 5 games are rather easy so they better go 4-1 to build up a cushion.   


 

Well it seems like other teams have gotten worse (Rockets, Mavs, Grizzlies, OKC) while the Lakers have improved more than teams like the Twolves, Suns, Nuggets, Pelicans and Kings. If you look at the Lakers they didn't really lose anyone and added a really solid veteran in Deng, an ok big in Mosgov and have young guys continuing to develop. A team like the Kings lost Rondo and didn't really add anyone. The Nuggets didn't really add anyone. The Pelicans lost Anderson and didn't really add anyone.

Edit: I guess I should have figured this thread would get derailed by people upset about the idea that the Lakers could exceed expectations. I want the Lakers to be terrible as much as the next Celtics fan, but the fact is they look really good so far. They beat the Warriors, they beat Atlanta in Atlanta and beat an amped up Rockets team at home. Their losses have been competitive and to good teams (okc and utah on road, pacers).
 Double Edit: This is also great news for our nets pick.

You were the one that started this thread after only 7 games into the season.  Seems pretty early to be calling the MCW trade an inconsequential trade.  We don't know what pick it will actually be.  We don't know who the Sixers will draft with the pick.  Heck the pick could end up being traded.   

I watched the Lakers Warriors and some of the Lakers Rocket game.  Got to see some really lousy defense from all teams.  If the Lakers do make the playoffs, it will be more of an indictment on how far the level of play in the Western conference has fallen.

Yes the Lakers could certainly turn around and collapse. At a minimum it looks like they are trying to win as many games as possible this year, which certainly was not true the last few seasons. It looks like the veteran and young mix has good chemistry and that Walton is a good coach.
That trade could very well be the most discussed non-celtic trade on these forums for the last few years. I reiterate that this will be pretty funny from both sides if the Lakers keep this up. It is funny for the MCW side cause he is worse than anyone could have imagined. He at least seemed like he could be an average NBA starting point guard and has collapsed. Meanwhile, I don't think anyone thought in their wildest dreams the Lakers would be competitive this year. Your response seems overly defensive to the concept that this trade could have been much ado about nothing.

Just find it silly to be speculating on whether or not the trade is inconsequential 7 games into the season.  The Lakers are only 4 games ahead of the 0-7 Pelicans.  Another possibility I didn't mention was they could end up with a top 3 pick (either by bad record or lottery luck) which would push the discussion to next year with the Sixers having the Lakers unprotected 1st.  Finally since we're talking Lakers, I'll point out that Kobe was a 13th pick.

Why is it silly? If this is silly literally every thread related to the NBA right now is silly. There is speculation that Anthony Davis may get traded based on 7 games. There is speculation that Embiid is going to be a monster based on 7 games. There is speculation that our defense is awful based on 7 games. There is speculation Randle has made a leap but Smart has not based on 7 games. Are we not allowed to discuss results from the early part of the season and speculate on how they will play out over the long term of the season?

If the idea of the Lakers winning more games than expected or Philly getting a worse pick than expected (not sure which one is upsetting you to think about it, but based on your reaction to this idea versus other 7 game threads it clearly is one of the two), I suggest you just avoid the thread. Cause honestly the Lakers are the biggest surprise of the NBA season so far and it is perfectly reasonable to discuss that and the potential impact of it.

[Big333223]

If that Lakers pick winds up outside of the top 10 I'll eat my shoe on youtube.

Can we please hold you to this?

You really think there is no chance they finish ahead of

Philly
New Orleans
Brooklyn
Phoenix
Dallas
Minnesota
Denver
Sacramento
Washington
Miami

All those teams have really serious flaws and it is easy to see a team like Miami offloading Dragic and going for a youth movement or Washington deciding to blow it up if they continue to struggle. If you look at these teams there are just so many bad ones. Teams like Dallas and Miami  desperately need to add some more young talent and I don't even know what a team like Washington does.

Book it.

[celticsclay]

If that Lakers pick winds up outside of the top 10 I'll eat my shoe on youtube.

Can we please hold you to this?

You really think there is no chance they finish ahead of

Philly
New Orleans
Brooklyn
Phoenix
Dallas
Minnesota
Denver
Sacramento
Washington
Miami

All those teams have really serious flaws and it is easy to see a team like Miami offloading Dragic and going for a youth movement or Washington deciding to blow it up if they continue to struggle. If you look at these teams there are just so many bad ones. Teams like Dallas and Miami  desperately need to add some more young talent and I don't even know what a team like Washington does.

Book it.

I like it! This will be a pretty epic video if they keep winning.

[Big333223]

If that Lakers pick winds up outside of the top 10 I'll eat my shoe on youtube.

Can we please hold you to this?

You really think there is no chance they finish ahead of

Philly
New Orleans
Brooklyn
Phoenix
Dallas
Minnesota
Denver
Sacramento
Washington
Miami

All those teams have really serious flaws and it is easy to see a team like Miami offloading Dragic and going for a youth movement or Washington deciding to blow it up if they continue to struggle. If you look at these teams there are just so many bad ones. Teams like Dallas and Miami  desperately need to add some more young talent and I don't even know what a team like Washington does.

Book it.

I like it! This will be a pretty epic video if they keep winning.

I'm going to look up ways of cooking a shoe, just in case.

I think Werner Herzog did it.

[tazzmaniac]

NOP finished with 30 wins last year and had the 6th worst record.  To make the playoffs the Lakers are probably going to have to get 41 wins.   I don't see that happening with as bad as their defense is.  Their next 5 games are rather easy so they better go 4-1 to build up a cushion.   


 

Well it seems like other teams have gotten worse (Rockets, Mavs, Grizzlies, OKC) while the Lakers have improved more than teams like the Twolves, Suns, Nuggets, Pelicans and Kings. If you look at the Lakers they didn't really lose anyone and added a really solid veteran in Deng, an ok big in Mosgov and have young guys continuing to develop. A team like the Kings lost Rondo and didn't really add anyone. The Nuggets didn't really add anyone. The Pelicans lost Anderson and didn't really add anyone.

Edit: I guess I should have figured this thread would get derailed by people upset about the idea that the Lakers could exceed expectations. I want the Lakers to be terrible as much as the next Celtics fan, but the fact is they look really good so far. They beat the Warriors, they beat Atlanta in Atlanta and beat an amped up Rockets team at home. Their losses have been competitive and to good teams (okc and utah on road, pacers).
 Double Edit: This is also great news for our nets pick.

You were the one that started this thread after only 7 games into the season.  Seems pretty early to be calling the MCW trade an inconsequential trade.  We don't know what pick it will actually be.  We don't know who the Sixers will draft with the pick.  Heck the pick could end up being traded.   

I watched the Lakers Warriors and some of the Lakers Rocket game.  Got to see some really lousy defense from all teams.  If the Lakers do make the playoffs, it will be more of an indictment on how far the level of play in the Western conference has fallen.

Yes the Lakers could certainly turn around and collapse. At a minimum it looks like they are trying to win as many games as possible this year, which certainly was not true the last few seasons. It looks like the veteran and young mix has good chemistry and that Walton is a good coach.
That trade could very well be the most discussed non-celtic trade on these forums for the last few years. I reiterate that this will be pretty funny from both sides if the Lakers keep this up. It is funny for the MCW side cause he is worse than anyone could have imagined. He at least seemed like he could be an average NBA starting point guard and has collapsed. Meanwhile, I don't think anyone thought in their wildest dreams the Lakers would be competitive this year. Your response seems overly defensive to the concept that this trade could have been much ado about nothing.

Just find it silly to be speculating on whether or not the trade is inconsequential 7 games into the season.  The Lakers are only 4 games ahead of the 0-7 Pelicans.  Another possibility I didn't mention was they could end up with a top 3 pick (either by bad record or lottery luck) which would push the discussion to next year with the Sixers having the Lakers unprotected 1st.  Finally since we're talking Lakers, I'll point out that Kobe was a 13th pick.

Why is it silly? If this is silly literally every thread related to the NBA right now is silly. There is speculation that Anthony Davis may get traded based on 7 games. There is speculation that Embiid is going to be a monster based on 7 games. There is speculation that our defense is awful based on 7 games. There is speculation Randle has made a leap but Smart has not based on 7 games. Are we not allowed to discuss results from the early part of the season and speculate on how they will play out over the long term of the season?

If the idea of the Lakers winning more games than expected or Philly getting a worse pick than expected (not sure which one is upsetting you to think about it, but based on your reaction to this idea versus other 7 game threads it clearly is one of the two), I suggest you just avoid the thread. Cause honestly the Lakers are the biggest surprise of the NBA season so far and it is perfectly reasonable to discuss that and the potential impact of it.

Speculation that NOP is going to trade Davis this season regardless of the number of games into it is definitely silly.  I do think making judgments 7 games into the season on the other items you mention are also silly to varying degrees.  The only one I've been guilty of is Embiid but I've been waiting to see him play again for two years.  I expected great things from him but definitely surprised he looks so good so early.  Certainly reasonable to discuss these issues but just think we ought to be at least 20 games into the season before jumping to conclusions. 

It is too early now but I think a discussion on where the various team rebuilds stand would be interesting.  Has the TWolvers rebuild stalled?  Maybe the Lakers rebuild has surpassed them.   

[tazzmaniac]

If that Lakers pick winds up outside of the top 10 I'll eat my shoe on youtube.

Can we please hold you to this?

You really think there is no chance they finish ahead of

Philly
New Orleans
Brooklyn
Phoenix
Dallas
Minnesota
Denver
Sacramento
Washington
Miami

All those teams have really serious flaws and it is easy to see a team like Miami offloading Dragic and going for a youth movement or Washington deciding to blow it up if they continue to struggle. If you look at these teams there are just so many bad ones. Teams like Dallas and Miami  desperately need to add some more young talent and I don't even know what a team like Washington does.

Book it.

I like it! This will be a pretty epic video if they keep winning.

I'm going to look up ways of cooking a shoe, just in case.

I think Werner Herzog did it.

Hope you have small feet.  I wouldn't want to eat my size 12 shoe. 

[Moranis]

NOP finished with 30 wins last year and had the 6th worst record.  To make the playoffs the Lakers are probably going to have to get 41 wins.   I don't see that happening with as bad as their defense is.  Their next 5 games are rather easy so they better go 4-1 to build up a cushion.   


 

Well it seems like other teams have gotten worse (Rockets, Mavs, Grizzlies, OKC) while the Lakers have improved more than teams like the Twolves, Suns, Nuggets, Pelicans and Kings. If you look at the Lakers they didn't really lose anyone and added a really solid veteran in Deng, an ok big in Mosgov and have young guys continuing to develop. A team like the Kings lost Rondo and didn't really add anyone. The Nuggets didn't really add anyone. The Pelicans lost Anderson and didn't really add anyone.

Edit: I guess I should have figured this thread would get derailed by people upset about the idea that the Lakers could exceed expectations. I want the Lakers to be terrible as much as the next Celtics fan, but the fact is they look really good so far. They beat the Warriors, they beat Atlanta in Atlanta and beat an amped up Rockets team at home. Their losses have been competitive and to good teams (okc and utah on road, pacers).
 Double Edit: This is also great news for our nets pick.

You were the one that started this thread after only 7 games into the season.  Seems pretty early to be calling the MCW trade an inconsequential trade.  We don't know what pick it will actually be.  We don't know who the Sixers will draft with the pick.  Heck the pick could end up being traded.   

I watched the Lakers Warriors and some of the Lakers Rocket game.  Got to see some really lousy defense from all teams.  If the Lakers do make the playoffs, it will be more of an indictment on how far the level of play in the Western conference has fallen.

Yes the Lakers could certainly turn around and collapse. At a minimum it looks like they are trying to win as many games as possible this year, which certainly was not true the last few seasons. It looks like the veteran and young mix has good chemistry and that Walton is a good coach.
That trade could very well be the most discussed non-celtic trade on these forums for the last few years. I reiterate that this will be pretty funny from both sides if the Lakers keep this up. It is funny for the MCW side cause he is worse than anyone could have imagined. He at least seemed like he could be an average NBA starting point guard and has collapsed. Meanwhile, I don't think anyone thought in their wildest dreams the Lakers would be competitive this year. Your response seems overly defensive to the concept that this trade could have been much ado about nothing.

Just find it silly to be speculating on whether or not the trade is inconsequential 7 games into the season.  The Lakers are only 4 games ahead of the 0-7 Pelicans.  Another possibility I didn't mention was they could end up with a top 3 pick (either by bad record or lottery luck) which would push the discussion to next year with the Sixers having the Lakers unprotected 1st.  Finally since we're talking Lakers, I'll point out that Kobe was a 13th pick.

Why is it silly? If this is silly literally every thread related to the NBA right now is silly. There is speculation that Anthony Davis may get traded based on 7 games. There is speculation that Embiid is going to be a monster based on 7 games. There is speculation that our defense is awful based on 7 games. There is speculation Randle has made a leap but Smart has not based on 7 games. Are we not allowed to discuss results from the early part of the season and speculate on how they will play out over the long term of the season?

If the idea of the Lakers winning more games than expected or Philly getting a worse pick than expected (not sure which one is upsetting you to think about it, but based on your reaction to this idea versus other 7 game threads it clearly is one of the two), I suggest you just avoid the thread. Cause honestly the Lakers are the biggest surprise of the NBA season so far and it is perfectly reasonable to discuss that and the potential impact of it.

Those observations aren't based on 7 games though.  They are based on prior beliefs, which are being confirmed (if you believe those prior beliefs) by those 7 games.  The people that thought Embiid was going to be great are just having those beliefs confirmed by the 7 games.  Similarly, the people that though Embiid wasn't going to be good or would always have injury concerns just look at the 7 games like what they are 7 games.  I would be very surprised if someone that had no opinion whatsoever reached any sort of conclusion after 7 games.

[Big333223]

If that Lakers pick winds up outside of the top 10 I'll eat my shoe on youtube.

Can we please hold you to this?

You really think there is no chance they finish ahead of

Philly
New Orleans
Brooklyn
Phoenix
Dallas
Minnesota
Denver
Sacramento
Washington
Miami

All those teams have really serious flaws and it is easy to see a team like Miami offloading Dragic and going for a youth movement or Washington deciding to blow it up if they continue to struggle. If you look at these teams there are just so many bad ones. Teams like Dallas and Miami  desperately need to add some more young talent and I don't even know what a team like Washington does.

Book it.

I like it! This will be a pretty epic video if they keep winning.

I'm going to look up ways of cooking a shoe, just in case.

I think Werner Herzog did it.

Hope you have small feet.  I wouldn't want to eat my size 12 shoe.

Size 7's baby!

[celticsclay]

To be fair the lakers have looked terrible the last 2.5 games now. I'll be the first to admit that. Getting creamed by cousins right now

[tazzmaniac]

To be fair the lakers have looked terrible the last 2.5 games now. I'll be the first to admit that. Getting creamed by cousins right now

You're no fun.  I was going to wait for a few more games to call you on it.  Hard to count on a team that is young and has streaky vets (Young and Williams).  The only thing consistent about them is their lousy defense.  Cousins ought to go for 50 on them.  Of course its the Kings so they might figure out a way to lose. 

The Lakers actually have a strong incentive to tank to bottom 3.  Not only would they keep their pick this year but their 2019 1st owed to Orlando would convert to two seconds.  If they're close to bottom 3 at the all-star break, it will be interesting to see what they do.