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Re: NBA Season 2016-2017
« Reply #1230 on: January 28, 2017, 12:50:33 AM »

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So as "punishment", Butler and Wade won't START on Friday and will come off the bench.

Things looking really good down in Chicago.
I was watching the Bulls game during our breaks. Score now is 99-87 for Miami. And that is Miami without Whiteside.

Some quick remarks. Bulls D was a mess. Dragic could go anywhere he wanted.

Their offence was bad too.My impression from this game is that their players do not know their roles, and they often 'freeze' at the offence.

Rondo is not helping much. He is slow, rarely drives to the paint, and is dribbling waiting for someone to cut and try a spectacular pass. Still has a midrange shot, but his game is too predictable for the defence.

Wade was good, but he plays on his own. He still posts a lot, which is impressive for someone his age.

Overall they looked unmotivated, and I would not be surprised if they have locker room issues too. Hornets and Bucks (the teams right below the Bulls in the standings) play with  more energy and are by comparison a pleasure to watch.

I wonder how many of these problems come from their bench: no role distribution, messed up defensive rotation, poor psychology.  I never thought much of Hoiberg tbh. What do other people think of him?

I tuned in late to that game to watch Miami pull away in the 4th. 

Nobody thinks highly of Hoiberg at this point.  Not the Bulls fans, not the players.  One of the Bulls broadcasters lamented the fact that the Bulls rotations are too way too variable - some nights its 8 players, others it's 10, and it's just a bunch of mix and match without successful results.  Poor continuity and lack of established roles.  He didn't call out Hoiberg directly, but it was definitely criticism towards him.

Lots of Bulls fans are rightfully demoralized.  Their offseason moves made no sense, and their drafting has been really poor of late.  The only good pick they've had over the past 5 years (and it was a great pick) was Jimmy Butler.  On top of that, the actual product on the floor is boring to watch.

Re: NBA Season 2016-2017
« Reply #1231 on: January 28, 2017, 01:00:15 AM »

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you are right about Rondo's numbers, I missed that.

I still think he slowed down their offence many times during the game.

Also, he did guard Dragic at least in parts during the game, and that did not go very well.

But yes, you are right, I would not blame that L on him.

Re: NBA Season 2016-2017
« Reply #1232 on: January 28, 2017, 02:37:08 AM »

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So as "punishment", Butler and Wade won't START on Friday and will come off the bench.

Things looking really good down in Chicago.
I was watching the Bulls game during our breaks. Score now is 99-87 for Miami. And that is Miami without Whiteside.

Some quick remarks. Bulls D was a mess. Dragic could go anywhere he wanted.

Their offence was bad too.My impression from this game is that their players do not know their roles, and they often 'freeze' at the offence.

Rondo is not helping much. He is slow, rarely drives to the paint, and is dribbling waiting for someone to cut and try a spectacular pass. Still has a midrange shot, but his game is too predictable for the defence.

Wade was good, but he plays on his own. He still posts a lot, which is impressive for someone his age.

Overall they looked unmotivated, and I would not be surprised if they have locker room issues too. Hornets and Bucks (the teams right below the Bulls in the standings) play with  more energy and are by comparison a pleasure to watch.

I wonder how many of these problems come from their bench: no role distribution, messed up defensive rotation, poor psychology.  I never thought much of Hoiberg tbh. What do other people think of him?
Rondo had a nice game 13pts (6-8), 7reb, 7 ast, 3 stl.  Wade was 6-17 and Butler was 1-13 shooting.  If you're going to complain about your teammates publicly, you better bring it the next game.

Most Bulls fans were p---ed at both Wade and Butler that game. The Bulls actually played better when both Butler and Wade were sitting and Rondo ran with the youngsters.

Rondo is right. KG and Pierce wouldnt go to the media about team effort. They will hit the gym and bring it the next game. They wouldnt put out such a disgusting performance like Butler and Wade did.

Re: NBA Season 2016-2017
« Reply #1233 on: January 28, 2017, 02:43:12 AM »

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So as "punishment", Butler and Wade won't START on Friday and will come off the bench.

Things looking really good down in Chicago.
I was watching the Bulls game during our breaks. Score now is 99-87 for Miami. And that is Miami without Whiteside.

Some quick remarks. Bulls D was a mess. Dragic could go anywhere he wanted.

Their offence was bad too.My impression from this game is that their players do not know their roles, and they often 'freeze' at the offence.

Rondo is not helping much. He is slow, rarely drives to the paint, and is dribbling waiting for someone to cut and try a spectacular pass. Still has a midrange shot, but his game is too predictable for the defence.

Wade was good, but he plays on his own. He still posts a lot, which is impressive for someone his age.

Overall they looked unmotivated, and I would not be surprised if they have locker room issues too. Hornets and Bucks (the teams right below the Bulls in the standings) play with  more energy and are by comparison a pleasure to watch.

I wonder how many of these problems come from their bench: no role distribution, messed up defensive rotation, poor psychology.  I never thought much of Hoiberg tbh. What do other people think of him?
Rondo had a nice game 13pts (6-8), 7reb, 7 ast, 3 stl.  Wade was 6-17 and Butler was 1-13 shooting.  If you're going to complain about your teammates publicly, you better bring it the next game.

Most Bulls fans were p---ed at both Wade and Butler that game. The Bulls actually played better when both Butler and Wade were sitting and Rondo ran with the youngsters.

Rondo is right. KG and Pierce wouldnt go to the media about team effort. They will hit the gym and bring it the next game. They wouldnt put out such a disgusting performance like Butler and Wade did.

Were they really bad?

Thing is...

What were they thinking of, when they picked up Wade, Rondo, to put them alongside Jimmy Butler?
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Re: NBA Season 2016-2017
« Reply #1234 on: January 28, 2017, 03:00:00 AM »

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So as "punishment", Butler and Wade won't START on Friday and will come off the bench.

Things looking really good down in Chicago.
I was watching the Bulls game during our breaks. Score now is 99-87 for Miami. And that is Miami without Whiteside.

Some quick remarks. Bulls D was a mess. Dragic could go anywhere he wanted.

Their offence was bad too.My impression from this game is that their players do not know their roles, and they often 'freeze' at the offence.

Rondo is not helping much. He is slow, rarely drives to the paint, and is dribbling waiting for someone to cut and try a spectacular pass. Still has a midrange shot, but his game is too predictable for the defence.

Wade was good, but he plays on his own. He still posts a lot, which is impressive for someone his age.

Overall they looked unmotivated, and I would not be surprised if they have locker room issues too. Hornets and Bucks (the teams right below the Bulls in the standings) play with  more energy and are by comparison a pleasure to watch.

I wonder how many of these problems come from their bench: no role distribution, messed up defensive rotation, poor psychology.  I never thought much of Hoiberg tbh. What do other people think of him?
Rondo had a nice game 13pts (6-8), 7reb, 7 ast, 3 stl.  Wade was 6-17 and Butler was 1-13 shooting.  If you're going to complain about your teammates publicly, you better bring it the next game.

Most Bulls fans were p---ed at both Wade and Butler that game. The Bulls actually played better when both Butler and Wade were sitting and Rondo ran with the youngsters.

Rondo is right. KG and Pierce wouldnt go to the media about team effort. They will hit the gym and bring it the next game. They wouldnt put out such a disgusting performance like Butler and Wade did.

Were they really bad?

Thing is...

What were they thinking of, when they picked up Wade, Rondo, to put them alongside Jimmy Butler?

My guess is they were thinking of how good "Butler, Wade, and Rondo" sounded, or looked on paper, forgetting (or ignoring) that two of those three are past their prime. Sorta like what Phil Jackson did with the Knicks this year—"Carmelo, Noah, Rose, Jennings" sounds pretty good, but in reality isn't.
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Re: NBA Season 2016-2017
« Reply #1235 on: January 28, 2017, 04:18:13 AM »

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If they do not make the playoffs, the signings of Rondo and Wade this summer will look silly.

Re: NBA Season 2016-2017
« Reply #1236 on: January 28, 2017, 01:43:35 PM »

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If they do not make the playoffs, the signings of Rondo and Wade this summer will look silly.

I'd argue they look really silly regardless. Wade? Maybe I can see it. Rondo? No clue what they were thinking.

Re: NBA Season 2016-2017
« Reply #1237 on: January 28, 2017, 07:26:49 PM »

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Another night with lots of relevant games for C's fans:

Boston vs Milwaukee

Brooklyn pick -

Brooklyn at Minnesota

Detroit vs Miami

Denver vs Phoenix

Potential Trade Targets -

Sacramento at Charlotte


Ideal Scenario -

Boston wins;

Brooklyn loses;

Denver and Minny win and Sacramento loses - pushes Sacramento 3.5 games out of the playoffs and tied with Minnesota for 11th/12th in the West, helping the potential Boogie pursuit
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Re: NBA Season 2016-2017
« Reply #1238 on: January 28, 2017, 09:18:57 PM »

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Good one in Charlotte. The Hornets about to come back from a big fourth quarter deficit and beat the Kings just like Indiana did last night, even though Cousins is dominating with 27, 13, and 4. Would be a nice, demoralizing loss for the Boogie Watch!
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Re: NBA Season 2016-2017
« Reply #1239 on: January 28, 2017, 09:38:09 PM »

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Good one in Charlotte. The Hornets about to come back from a big fourth quarter deficit and beat the Kings just like Indiana did last night, even though Cousins is dominating with 27, 13, and 4. Would be a nice, demoralizing loss for the Boogie Watch!

The Kings pulled this one out. They keep their playoff hope fire burning for now.

Re: NBA Season 2016-2017
« Reply #1240 on: January 28, 2017, 09:45:16 PM »

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Good one in Charlotte. The Hornets about to come back from a big fourth quarter deficit and beat the Kings just like Indiana did last night, even though Cousins is dominating with 27, 13, and 4. Would be a nice, demoralizing loss for the Boogie Watch!

Potter you got to stop calling these kings game before they are over

Re: NBA Season 2016-2017
« Reply #1241 on: January 28, 2017, 09:50:15 PM »

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Good one in Charlotte. The Hornets about to come back from a big fourth quarter deficit and beat the Kings just like Indiana did last night, even though Cousins is dominating with 27, 13, and 4. Would be a nice, demoralizing loss for the Boogie Watch!

Potter you got to stop calling these kings game before they are over

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Re: NBA Season 2016-2017
« Reply #1242 on: January 29, 2017, 05:04:09 PM »

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Kris with the rim-rocker over Dwight and 1.

Will be interesting to see how Kris and NY goes forward once / if Melo is traded.

Re: NBA Season 2016-2017
« Reply #1243 on: January 29, 2017, 05:42:19 PM »

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Re: NBA Season 2016-2017
« Reply #1244 on: January 29, 2017, 06:08:19 PM »

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Watching this 2nd overtime at NY @ ATL. All Melo does is shoot jumpshots