IT thinks it would be "good, really good" to acquire DeMarcus Cousins..

[dreamgreen]

If we are trading for Cousins they are going to be demanding a lot for him

They will want at least one if not two of these 3 players

Brown/Smart/Crowder

+ filler players
+ 2 first round picks (probably will demand at least either the swap or the Nets pick next year)

I am unsure if I want to part with either of the 3, it's hard to find a bulldog players that can change the end game with Smart and Crowder's defense.

I'd probably still make that trade at the end cuz [dang], IT/Horford/Cousins is a [dang] good trio

Smart + Brooklyn swap + 2018 BOS #1?

In a second.

Yeah.  That's a no brainer.

Yea even I would do that. IMO that's what he's worth until he can prove otherwise, he's a risk. I assume some group of Amir, Ko or JJ would have to be involved?

[trickybilly]

Just wait till he hits free agency.. I realise the trade preserves his Bird rights, but he would still be 31 when his next contract becomes due, and there is little chance he doesn't get the max again

[max215]

I really can't believe people are choosing to part with Smart before Crowder.

If you're trying to win now, which you are if you trade for Cousins, then Jae is much more important than Marcus.

[tazzmaniac]

Just wait till he hits free agency.. I realise the trade preserves his Bird rights, but he would still be 31 when his next contract becomes due, and there is little chance he doesn't get the max again

Trade for him now, become a championship contender and hopefully he'll re-sign when he becomes a free agent.  Wait until free agency and I think he'll choose somewhere else (Lakers, cough, gag, retch!!) 

[Diggles]

I'm thinking that we need to upgrade a scoring big on the bench.   I like the idea of Phili and Okafor.  We do not need a defensive stud.   We need a scorer on second team.  Surrounded with defensive players and shooters.   Al looks like hell play better with Amir then another ball dominate big man.   

What we  "need" is another go to scorer from the SG/PF/C spot...   We have the depth to move pieces around.

A second team of (Rozier, Smart, Brown, Green, KO, Jerebko and Okafor) would be a perfect 11 man rotation.  Sign me up~ Keep Zeller since he is a good locker room ready to play 12th man.   

Do what it takes to move  some picks, and any of these guys.  RJ, Young, Mickey,   


IT is a plus better on O than D
Bradley looks like a plus
Jae is a solid glue two way player (better on D than O)
Al is a plus   
Amir is a solid glue two way player (better on D than O)

We need two more two way players.  These three guys are close but not a plus on either side yet.   
Rozier
Smart
Brown

These guys are streaky
Green
KO
Jerebko

These guys are role players/bench and two young:

Zeller, Young, RJ, Jackson

[Miranda-Kerr]

If we are trading for Cousins they are going to be demanding a lot for him

They will want at least one if not two of these 3 players

Brown/Smart/Crowder

+ filler players
+ 2 first round picks (probably will demand at least either the swap or the Nets pick next year)

I am unsure if I want to part with either of the 3, it's hard to find a bulldog players that can change the end game with Smart and Crowder's defense.

I'd probably still make that trade at the end cuz [dang], IT/Horford/Cousins is a [dang] good trio

I feel the same, I'd rather continue to build towards the future and take our chances this upcoming FA.

We are in such a strong position that we can literally just wait and see how the team pans out.

Although in a couple years Isiah, Bradley, Smart and Crowder will be looking to get paid. If all 3 can be signed for under 50 mil then no need to panic

IT- 16 m
Bradley-12 m
Smart- 10 m
Crowder- 12 m 

However I doubt they'd be willing to sign for this much. We all know Zeller can't be traded till January so I can't see Ainge making a move till at least then

[tarheelsxxiii]

I really can't believe people are choosing to part with Smart before Crowder.

Hey I don't agree with them.  Smart is really pretty off limits for me.

Why?

[mr. dee]

I really can't believe people are choosing to part with Smart before Crowder.

Hey I don't agree with them.  Smart is really pretty off limits for me.

Why?

Because he's one of the leaders and the identity of the team. Team's morale might plummet with the trade with either Crowder or Smart. See the Perk trade.

Not to mention, he's developed some nice offensive game outside his three-point shooting.

I'd do a Amir, Olynyk + 2017 & 2018 BKN pick + fillers.

[crimson_stallion]

I really can't believe people are choosing to part with Smart before Crowder.

I really can't believe that you can't believe it...

Crowder is so much better (and more valuable) to this team then Smart that it's not even funny.  I'd trade three Marcus Smart three times over before I'd ever dream of trading Crowder or Bradley for that matter.

Crowder is at least as good as Smart as a defender and as a leader, but is on a whole other level offensively.  It's not even close.

[crimson_stallion]

Okafor would cost a hell of a lot less than Cousins and IMO acquiring Okafor would create more value than acquiring Cousins.

With Embiid doing so well and the eventual return of Simmons. I could see a simple trade based around:

Smart
4
Okafor

We could throw in RJ too(instead of cutting him)

This way we get to keep all those assets and we get a player that IMO is extremely undervalued both offensively and defensively.

Passing up Cousins for Okafor would be like passing up Anthony Davis for Porzingis.  Or passing up Kevin Durant for Jabari Parker.  Or passing up Steph Curry for D'Angelo Russell.   

That's absolute madness.

Your talking about passing up the best center in the entire NBA (Cousins) for a guy who is arguably the third best center on the worst team in the NBA (Okafor).  Insane.

You can't even use the personality argument here, Okafor and Cousins are both headcases.

[JSD]

With Demarcus Cousin's low salary, an argument can be made that overpaying in a trade for him is actually OK because you could make up some of that value in free agency. The Celtics would have a ton of cap space heading into next summer and enough talent and front office stability to entice any free agent.

Honestly, I think it would take:

Johnson, Brown, Smart and the 2 Nets picks. And you know what? It's worth it. Cousins would catapult the Celtics into instant contention and into tier 1.

[crimson_stallion]

With Demarcus Cousin's low salary, an argument can be made that overpaying in a trade for him is actually OK because you could make up some of that value in free agency. The Celtics would have a ton of cap space heading into next summer and enough talent and front office stability to entice any free agent.

Honestly, I think it would take:

Johnson, Brown, Smart and the 2 Nets picks. And you know what? It's worth it. Cousins would catapult the Celtics into instant contention and into tier 1.

Yeah - honestly, I would do that trade.

That still leaves us with a backcourt rotation of Thomas/Bradley/Rozier/Green plus we'd have an extra roster sport or two to allow us to bring back any two of Jackson/Young/Hunter as an emergency backup. 

I think people are pretty shortsighted to not recognise how much of a bargain Cousins is right now.  You're talking about the best center in the NBA, on the same money as Tomofey freakin' Mozgov.  That's ludicrous.

[dreamgreen]

With Demarcus Cousin's low salary, an argument can be made that overpaying in a trade for him is actually OK because you could make up some of that value in free agency. The Celtics would have a ton of cap space heading into next summer and enough talent and front office stability to entice any free agent.

Honestly, I think it would take:

Johnson, Brown, Smart and the 2 Nets picks. And you know what? It's worth it. Cousins would catapult the Celtics into instant contention and into tier 1.

Yeah - honestly, I would do that trade.

That still leaves us with a backcourt rotation of Thomas/Bradley/Rozier/Green plus we'd have an extra roster sport or two to allow us to bring back any two of Jackson/Young/Hunter as an emergency backup. 

I think people are pretty shortsighted to not recognise how much of a bargain Cousins is right now.  You're talking about the best center in the NBA, on the same money as Tomofey freakin' Mozgov.  That's ludicrous.

Not sure I would do that, it's an overpay for a guy that isn't stable and can't win. You say best Center in the NBA which could be true, also shows how bad the centers are right now. If he comes here and turns it all around and becomes a real pro you look brilliant. If he doesn't than you look like a fool. People that are in love with Cousins would go all in. But there are many people that see him for who he is and wouldn't touch him. Guess I'm in the middle.

[ThePaintedArea]

I really can't believe people are choosing to part with Smart before Crowder.

I really can't believe that you can't believe it...

Crowder is so much better (and more valuable) to this team then Smart that it's not even funny.  I'd trade three Marcus Smart three times over before I'd ever dream of trading Crowder or Bradley for that matter.

Crowder is at least as good as Smart as a defender and as a leader, but is on a whole other level offensively.  It's not even close.

In any case, the team values Marcus Smart below Crowder, but still highly - viz., Brad's recent comment that Smart is the "sixth starter".

[Bobshot]

The trouble with Cousins is he is a top alpha dog. He has to have the ball and get the touches. You put him in with a bunch of top players, like in the Olympics, and he doesn't function as well. You put him on a team like the Celtics, and maybe he doesn't do as well as on a bad team like the Kings. He may not be viewed in the same light as Horford, for example. He doesn't make the players around him better. So he may not be worth the climb.

On the other hand, they are still weak up front after Horford. AJ doesn't show up enough to be a major factor. The other two 7 footers are soft defensively. So they do need help up front if they are to get into the elite category. I'm still waiting for the shoe to drop with Noel, who could make a difference.