bosh and blood clots

[Fafnir]

Yeah I think there has to be something more severe or troublesome about Bosh's condition than the cited Hockey players. Its clearly something that can be managed for many sufferers but others have been forced to retire from hockey after reoccurances, it appears to be an incredibly touchy and tricky issue.

I do not think Riley and the Heat would push Bosh out unless they were certain Bosh cannot play consistently/safely for the Heat.

[Emmette Bryant]

I think MIA is actually trying to look out for the guy. They don't want to see him die on the court. I know it sounds strong but I just think back to Reggie Lewis holding his heart after collapsing during a playoff game. It looks as though that MIA is doing what they think is best for Bosh health. Whether or not he agrees with it is another matter.

I don't think that's true. The way Riley cut off communication and didn't even tell Bosh before the "his Heat career is over" interview suggests to me that they don't care at all.

Lebron, Wade and Bosh have all had recent issues with Riley. The guy is a snake, and if he needs to discard Bosh to clear up cap space, he'll do it in a second.

Yep and going back farther look what he did to Stan Van Gundy.  Riley is a shrewd business man.  There are pros and cons to that, but the cons are definitely apparent here.

I hate Pat Riley as much as the next guy. The fact remains though, that Chris Bosh is not physically able to play nba basketball.  No physician in his right mind would clear him to play.

How can players with the same condition play NHL hockey, then? An NHL defenseman takes severe physical contact multiple times per night. Do they just have crazy physicians that allow guys like Tomas Fleischmann to play?

I'm guessing Bosh isn't responding to his meds as well. Or maybe the shorter shifts lend themselves a little better to the issue

Wading through all of that stuff, it appears that Bosh has a genetic predisposition for blood clots.

[MBunge]

I think MIA is actually trying to look out for the guy. They don't want to see him die on the court. I know it sounds strong but I just think back to Reggie Lewis holding his heart after collapsing during a playoff game. It looks as though that MIA is doing what they think is best for Bosh health. Whether or not he agrees with it is another matter.

I don't think that's true. The way Riley cut off communication and didn't even tell Bosh before the "his Heat career is over" interview suggests to me that they don't care at all.

Lebron, Wade and Bosh have all had recent issues with Riley. The guy is a snake, and if he needs to discard Bosh to clear up cap space, he'll do it in a second.

While I agree that Riley is largely being a snake here and taking advantage of an opportunity to get salary cap space, the health issue must be completely legitimate.  If they release Bosh and he doesn't retire and goes on to play just 25 games with another team, I believe his contract would go back onto Miami's cap.  That would absolutely cripple the team for years to come.

So while I think Riley mostly wants to just get rid of Bosh and move forward with a rebuild, he's also got to be entirely convinced that Bosh shouldn't and can't play again.  Otherwise he'd just buy Bosh out and not risk taking the salary cap hit AND losing the insurance claim.

Mike

If they buy Bosh out, that money still stays on the cap and it could still void any insurance claim.

If they make it impossible for Bosh to play 25 games this season,it gives them money for two max contracts this summer.  Even if the salary gets added back on later, they still get the benefit of that cap room.

That would potentially work out to Miami paying an extra $46 million this year, $50 million the next year and $52 million the year after that.  That's the equivalent to half their salary cap.  I know Riley is getting older and may not be thinking long term but I can't imagine ownership allowing him to expose the team to that kind of risk.

Mike

[LooseCannon]

I think MIA is actually trying to look out for the guy. They don't want to see him die on the court. I know it sounds strong but I just think back to Reggie Lewis holding his heart after collapsing during a playoff game. It looks as though that MIA is doing what they think is best for Bosh health. Whether or not he agrees with it is another matter.

I don't think that's true. The way Riley cut off communication and didn't even tell Bosh before the "his Heat career is over" interview suggests to me that they don't care at all.

Lebron, Wade and Bosh have all had recent issues with Riley. The guy is a snake, and if he needs to discard Bosh to clear up cap space, he'll do it in a second.

It feels like you are predisposed to believing whatever interpretation makes Riley look the worst since you think he is a snake.

[gift]

I think MIA is actually trying to look out for the guy. They don't want to see him die on the court. I know it sounds strong but I just think back to Reggie Lewis holding his heart after collapsing during a playoff game. It looks as though that MIA is doing what they think is best for Bosh health. Whether or not he agrees with it is another matter.

I don't think that's true. The way Riley cut off communication and didn't even tell Bosh before the "his Heat career is over" interview suggests to me that they don't care at all.

Lebron, Wade and Bosh have all had recent issues with Riley. The guy is a snake, and if he needs to discard Bosh to clear up cap space, he'll do it in a second.

It feels like you are predisposed to believing whatever interpretation makes Riley look the worst since you think he is a snake.

In fairness, in cases where a man is a snake, one who believes him to be a snake better understands his motives than one who wonders if the snake might actually be a rabbit.

[Roy H.]

I think MIA is actually trying to look out for the guy. They don't want to see him die on the court. I know it sounds strong but I just think back to Reggie Lewis holding his heart after collapsing during a playoff game. It looks as though that MIA is doing what they think is best for Bosh health. Whether or not he agrees with it is another matter.

I don't think that's true. The way Riley cut off communication and didn't even tell Bosh before the "his Heat career is over" interview suggests to me that they don't care at all.

Lebron, Wade and Bosh have all had recent issues with Riley. The guy is a snake, and if he needs to discard Bosh to clear up cap space, he'll do it in a second.

It feels like you are predisposed to believing whatever interpretation makes Riley look the worst since you think he is a snake.

If an organization was "trying to look out for the guy", wouldn't they have the discussion face to face?

The video walks us through Media Day in Miami on Sept. 26 from Bosh’s perspective. As viewers, we feel Bosh’s pain when he recalls how team president Pat Riley and coach Erik Spoelstra broke the news to reporters behind his back. Bosh was unaware of Riley’s plans to release him until his wife showed him footage of the press conference a couple of hours later.

“I guess in the media today, Pat said that my career with the Heat is probably over, and you know, I can’t really do anything about that,” Bosh says. “But I didn’t see my career in Miami ending like this. I didn’t get a call or a text or anything like that. I mean it’s a business. We understand that. We always say those things, but if you say certain things to a person and you win championships and you have these moments, you don’t want to find things out through the media.”

That doesn't strike me as an altruistic act.

[LooseCannon]

I think MIA is actually trying to look out for the guy. They don't want to see him die on the court. I know it sounds strong but I just think back to Reggie Lewis holding his heart after collapsing during a playoff game. It looks as though that MIA is doing what they think is best for Bosh health. Whether or not he agrees with it is another matter.

I don't think that's true. The way Riley cut off communication and didn't even tell Bosh before the "his Heat career is over" interview suggests to me that they don't care at all.

Lebron, Wade and Bosh have all had recent issues with Riley. The guy is a snake, and if he needs to discard Bosh to clear up cap space, he'll do it in a second.

It feels like you are predisposed to believing whatever interpretation makes Riley look the worst since you think he is a snake.

If an organization was "trying to look out for the guy", wouldn't they have the discussion face to face?

The Heat story is that Bosh had cut off communication and refused contact.  Woj tweeted that Bosh hasn't wanted to meet with Riley for months.

This looks a lot like a man in denial and a cold-blooded decision to not attempt to coddle him and ease him into retirement.  I decline to interpret this as either callousness or "tough love".  I don't think this is a situation where Bosh could easily play again and Riley is just manipulating the situation to gain an advantage with cap space while ruining Bosh's future.

[KGs Knee]

Yeah I think there has to be something more severe or troublesome about Bosh's condition than the cited Hockey players. Its clearly something that can be managed for many sufferers but others have been forced to retire from hockey after reoccurances, it appears to be an incredibly touchy and tricky issue.

I do not think Riley and the Heat would push Bosh out unless they were certain Bosh cannot play consistently/safely for the Heat.

Yeah, it wouldn't make any sense for the Heat to just not let him play when he can. Bosh was still playing at a very high level. They might wish to get cap relief as a result, but that isn't the motivation.

But it's very complicated for Miami. I'm sure they would like the cap relief, but I'm beginning to wonder if they won't just keep Bosh, pay him, but keep him from playing, thereby doing right by him. Even if it might be against Bosh's wishes. I don't think he is thinking with a clear mind here. It's seems more like an emotional decision.

If the doctors felt Bosh could safely play, he'd be suiting up for the Heat.

I wonder, does the league have a moral obligation to prevent him from playing if it is not safe?