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Whom do you want to keep if the last roster choice is between Hunter and Young?

R.J. Hunter
21 (29.6%)
James Young
41 (57.7%)
Keep both - please share who you want cut instead
9 (12.7%)

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Re: (can't trade Zeller) Hunter or Young needs to start packing?
« Reply #75 on: October 15, 2016, 10:27:27 PM »

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I think the answer is cut Mickey.

Re: (can't trade Zeller) Hunter or Young needs to start packing?
« Reply #76 on: October 15, 2016, 11:11:02 PM »

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If we're just going by the pre season games, Hunter has done enough to stick.  He's played really well so far.  But I think the team has too many bodies so we could very well see a deal with Young or Hunter getting tossed in with another player - Zeller/Green even Jerebko. I don't think either Hunter or Young by themselves would get a team to give up anything significant in a deal.

Re: (can't trade Zeller) Hunter or Young needs to start packing?
« Reply #77 on: October 15, 2016, 11:36:08 PM »

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I think the answer is cut Mickey.
Cut? Hard to believe that ainge could not get some sort of second. round  pick somehow.
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Re: (can't trade Zeller) Hunter or Young needs to start packing?
« Reply #78 on: October 15, 2016, 11:51:01 PM »

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I think the answer is cut Mickey.
Cut? Hard to believe that ainge could not get some sort of second. round  pick somehow.

I was thinking the same thing. However, it's more likely teams are going to wait for the final cut. Why would they waste a draft pick when they don't need to.   

Talent-wise Mickey should go first. But, that won't happen because we need as much height as we can get.

On the other hand, maybe they should cut Mickey and hope to pick up a taller replacement during the year. That still doesn't solve the logjam.   

Re: (can't trade Zeller) Hunter or Young needs to start packing?
« Reply #79 on: October 16, 2016, 08:39:18 PM »

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The answer is cut Green and keep all the young guys.

Re: (can't trade Zeller) Hunter or Young needs to start packing?
« Reply #80 on: October 16, 2016, 11:57:11 PM »

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The answer is cut Green and keep all the young guys.
I don't think you can cut Gerald Green. Hunter took over the last game and basically won his spot. Green is too good as a replacement for Turner and Pressey as a spark plug off the bench. He is insurance for if Jaylen Brown takes too long. Or with Gerald Green, we don't have to rush Brown. Although Brown looks fairly ready, as much if not more than Marcus Smart was his rookie year.

Gerald Green and Jaylen Brown are insurance for the other. Zeller is backing up Olynyk and Jerebko.

I could see maybe Jordan Mickey entering the scrub fray, but he's looked decent at times. I know James Young hit a couple threes, but he has to show an all-around game just like Hunter did. Hunter and Young play the same position and Hunter looks for real. Hunter looks like he can be a good player or traded. James Young needs to show up in one of the next two games and take over. Then maybe Mickey gets cut or traded. But I don't think Young has the talent. He's like the guy who can drive the golf ball 350 yards, but he can't do anything else so that's why he isn't on the PGA tour.

Re: (can't trade Zeller) Hunter or Young needs to start packing?
« Reply #81 on: October 17, 2016, 12:40:49 AM »

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I'm still hoping for some sort of consolidation trade, but I admit it's not likely at this point. If only there were no restrictions for trading players after you've signed them. I'd ship Zeller out immediately lol.
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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Re: (can't trade Zeller) Hunter or Young needs to start packing?
« Reply #82 on: October 17, 2016, 12:50:21 AM »

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The answer is cut Green and keep all the young guys.
I don't think you can cut Gerald Green.

In any case, they didn't sign him as a free agent only to cut him a few weeks later.

Green is too good as a replacement for Turner and Pressey as a spark plug off the bench.

Don't get the comparison. Looks to me like their games are really different.

He is insurance for if Jaylen Brown takes too long. Or with Gerald Green, we don't have to rush Brown.

Yes. In addition, they got Green as wing depth for a long season; second seed looks feasible, so they need to keep winning. I'm not exaggerating his importance to the team; there's a good chance that it'll be one and done for him. But he's a known quantity, and his market was severely depressed by his off-court issues, so they retain flexibility at minimal risk with his one-year deal.

 
I know James Young hit a couple threes, but he has to show an all-around game just like Hunter did.

Not likely that he does show an all-around game, certainly not in the critical next week - but he doesn't have to do that. Mind you, he can be in the league; his upside is three and D wing, a valuable commodity in today's NBA -  maybe better than that, if he can do some more of that nifty dribble penetration we've seen in preseason. He moves smartly to his spots, moves the ball (had three assists in a game a few days ago), and it looks as though he can stroke it from deep.

 
James Young needs to show up in one of the next two games and take over. Then maybe Mickey gets cut or traded.

But Brad has liked what he's seen from Mickey: "Jordan has had a pretty good couple of weeks now, especially the last week... He puts in a lot of work... He can really impact us... He's unique  because of his ability to move…"

I think that James Young is the odd man out here.
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Re: (can't trade Zeller) Hunter or Young needs to start packing?
« Reply #83 on: October 17, 2016, 12:57:44 AM »

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James Young is the next JR Giddens, very talented but will never put it together.

RJ Hunter knows how to play the game and will be able to be a role player on this team.

I will take RJ Hunter.

Re: (can't trade Zeller) Hunter or Young needs to start packing?
« Reply #84 on: October 17, 2016, 01:12:58 AM »

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I think James Young returns to this team in 10 years as the elder statesman to play the role of the off the bench scoring guard, not unlike Gerald Green right now.

Maybe i'm just saying that because of how similar their hair styles are.
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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Re: (can't trade Zeller) Hunter or Young needs to start packing?
« Reply #85 on: October 17, 2016, 07:45:34 AM »

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Hunter gets the spot.
Hopefully they find some suckers to take Young and Mickey.
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Re: (can't trade Zeller) Hunter or Young needs to start packing?
« Reply #86 on: October 17, 2016, 09:31:43 AM »

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I think Young gets cut because of being just a little less versatile defensively than Hunter.

I think he also can create offense for himself and others just a little bit better than Young.


Re: (can't trade Zeller) Hunter or Young needs to start packing?
« Reply #87 on: October 17, 2016, 09:38:48 AM »

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I'm curious if we can pull off a consolidation trade without just cutting someone.   An idea I just thought of is Jonas, Hunter, and Bentl for Zach Randolph (have to throw in Bentl to make the numbers work).  Maybe throw in a lower level pick too.

Randolph is on the last year of his contract so it wouldn't hurt our cap flexibility.  He's still a solid rebounder and low post threat which I think we could use. He's coming off the bench now as Memphis is trying not to have 2 lumbering bigs in at the same time.  Memphis could use more spacing, and a little infusion of youth with Carter and Allen up there in age.

Anyway I'm hoping it's not just a straight cut but it may come to that.

Re: (can't trade Zeller) Hunter or Young needs to start packing?
« Reply #88 on: October 17, 2016, 09:51:06 AM »

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I'm curious if we can pull off a consolidation trade without just cutting someone.   An idea I just thought of is Jonas, Hunter, and Bentl for Zach Randolph (have to throw in Bentl to make the numbers work).  Maybe throw in a lower level pick too.

Randolph is on the last year of his contract so it wouldn't hurt our cap flexibility.  He's still a solid rebounder and low post threat which I think we could use. He's coming off the bench now as Memphis is trying not to have 2 lumbering bigs in at the same time.  Memphis could use more spacing, and a little infusion of youth with Carter and Allen up there in age.

Anyway I'm hoping it's not just a straight cut but it may come to that.
Memphis would probably do it if we gave them their #1 pick back.  Otherwise don't see an incentive for them to do so. 

Re: (can't trade Zeller) Hunter or Young needs to start packing?
« Reply #89 on: October 17, 2016, 09:54:19 AM »

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I'm curious if we can pull off a consolidation trade without just cutting someone.   An idea I just thought of is Jonas, Hunter, and Bentl for Zach Randolph (have to throw in Bentl to make the numbers work).  Maybe throw in a lower level pick too.

Randolph is on the last year of his contract so it wouldn't hurt our cap flexibility.  He's still a solid rebounder and low post threat which I think we could use. He's coming off the bench now as Memphis is trying not to have 2 lumbering bigs in at the same time.  Memphis could use more spacing, and a little infusion of youth with Carter and Allen up there in age.

Anyway I'm hoping it's not just a straight cut but it may come to that.
Memphis would probably do it if we gave them their #1 pick back.  Otherwise don't see an incentive for them to do so.

Yeah you're probably right.  I looked up Randolph's stats from last year, and it's better than I thought.