New CBA deal almost done

[tazzmaniac]

Looks like the new CBA deal is almost worked out including a significant increase in the rookie contract scale.  Would the 2017 draft be the last draft with the old scale or would it be the 1st draft with the new higher scale?   
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources-nba-union-optimistic-new-cba-deal-likely-finalized-within-several-weeks-200433903.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma

[saltlover]

Looks like the new CBA deal is almost worked out including a significant increase in the rookie contract scale.  Would the 2017 draft be the last draft with the old scale or would it be the 1st draft with the new higher scale?   
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources-nba-union-optimistic-new-cba-deal-likely-finalized-within-several-weeks-200433903.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma

I'd expect it would be the first with the new scale, since it would go into effect for the 2017-2018 league year.

[celticsclay]

I got to say I am a little surprised by this. The league really needs to address the super team issue that is now a lot more serious issue than it was before the cap jump. 4-5 years ago the Heat were having all kinds of problems adding players to fill out their bench to go along with their Big 3. Now teams are starting to get big 4's and still having bench players making 15 million (iggy). It is bad for the league to have teams that can't compete.

[alldaboston]

i imagine that the value of first round picks (in terms of trades) is now at a high point. soon we wont be seeing these young players on this cheap of a contract anymore.

[fairweatherfan]

Really good news.  I'd been bracing for a strike after the league got over on the union so thoroughly last time.  Looks like there's enough $ to keep everyone happy for now.

[tazzmaniac]

Depending on how much higher the rookie scale is, I'd expect an uptick in the number of rookies that don't have their 4th year option or even 3rd year option picked up. 

[Big333223]

I got to say I am a little surprised by this. The league really needs to address the super team issue that is now a lot more serious issue than it was before the cap jump. 4-5 years ago the Heat were having all kinds of problems adding players to fill out their bench to go along with their Big 3. Now teams are starting to get big 4's and still having bench players making 15 million (iggy). It is bad for the league to have teams that can't compete.

I'm not worried about that. Golden State only had room for Durant because of the massive cap spike. It'll probably do that once more but afterwards, the cap will normalize and you won't get those situation unless the cap balloons very quickly again. The KD thing was an aberration, not that new normal.

As far as Big 3's go, that just doesn't bother me.

[bdm860]

I can't help but wonder why things like rookie salary scale, minimum contracts, mid-level exceptions, etc. aren't just tied to salary cap.  This just seems like something that should never have been a problem in the first place.

Let's make half the salaries in the league based on a % of the cap, and let's make the other half based on a flat number with uniform increases every year.

Could nobody really see this issue coming?

Or is there a good reason for this that I'm just failing to see?

[jambr380]

I got to say I am a little surprised by this. The league really needs to address the super team issue that is now a lot more serious issue than it was before the cap jump. 4-5 years ago the Heat were having all kinds of problems adding players to fill out their bench to go along with their Big 3. Now teams are starting to get big 4's and still having bench players making 15 million (iggy). It is bad for the league to have teams that can't compete.

I'm not worried about that. Golden State only had room for Durant because of the massive cap spike. It'll probably do that once more but afterwards, the cap will normalize and you won't get those situation unless the cap balloons very quickly again. The KD thing was an aberration, not that new normal.

As far as Big 3's go, that just doesn't bother me.

I was going to say the same thing, but it still doesn't change the fact that the next 7+ years belong to one team with everybody else looking up. That it was allowed to happen in the first place sucks.

[dreamgreen]

I got to say I am a little surprised by this. The league really needs to address the super team issue that is now a lot more serious issue than it was before the cap jump. 4-5 years ago the Heat were having all kinds of problems adding players to fill out their bench to go along with their Big 3. Now teams are starting to get big 4's and still having bench players making 15 million (iggy). It is bad for the league to have teams that can't compete.

Agreed! It's bad for the league to have super teams.

[PhoSita]

Really good news.  I'd been bracing for a strike after the league got over on the union so thoroughly last time.  Looks like there's enough $ to keep everyone happy for now.

Yup.  Luckily the owners appear to understand that they couldn't exactly cry poverty again after the deals they handed out this summer.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Higher rookie scales is the least that I wanted to see. I hate players getting guaranteed payment worth a lot of $$$ for just showing up into the league.

That said, something had to be done because 2nd rounders were looking  like they had better potential deals than those picked in the 1st round.

That said, I don't think that increasing (significantly) the rookie scale payment is the way to address it.

Of course, as long as team options remain, not much of an issue. Main problem will always be with these players taking roster spots instead of people who can actually play right now.

[Big333223]

I got to say I am a little surprised by this. The league really needs to address the super team issue that is now a lot more serious issue than it was before the cap jump. 4-5 years ago the Heat were having all kinds of problems adding players to fill out their bench to go along with their Big 3. Now teams are starting to get big 4's and still having bench players making 15 million (iggy). It is bad for the league to have teams that can't compete.

I'm not worried about that. Golden State only had room for Durant because of the massive cap spike. It'll probably do that once more but afterwards, the cap will normalize and you won't get those situation unless the cap balloons very quickly again. The KD thing was an aberration, not that new normal.

As far as Big 3's go, that just doesn't bother me.

I was going to say the same thing, but it still doesn't change the fact that the next 7+ years belong to one team with everybody else looking up. That it was allowed to happen in the first place sucks.

That's a real worry, yeah. But I think something will break. Even if things go smoothly this year, how long will Thompson like his new role? How long will Steph and Durant like sharing the spotlight? What if one of Durant or Steph really outshines the other? How will the other react?

I'm harboring this secret hope that they wind up playing the Jazz in the first round and can't handle Utah's big interior and get upset in the first. That's probably silly but it's sports, man. Anything can happen.

[Csfan1984]

Interesting that D-league players have be discussed and are likely to be included as well into the players union. Then the delay of expansion talk. Wonder how that will effect revenue sharing later if they do expand. Does the NBA need more teams?

[CFAN38]

Glad to hear they are working things out.

Rookie pay scale this was a no brainer

Duel NBA/NBDL contracts this makes a ton of sense and hopefully increases roster sizes, it would be nice to see the roster capped at 17 where two players have to be on the Dleague roster at a given time.


It isn't likely to happen but I would love to see a broader reaching change with the Cap to help retain players.

The way I would like to see the cap changed is for tenured players to count less against the cap. 5 years with one team 90% salary vs cap, 8 Years 75%, 12 year 50%.


I would also eliminate the cap on individual contract values but retain length caps. Create structured contact buyouts that only count 50% for the length of the deal on the cap (ie sign Durant to a 5 year 100mill deal, he gets hurt and bought out he gets payed but it counts at 50mill per for remaining duration.)

Would also add a 3rd round to the draft. 1st round guaranteed NBA contract. 2nd round NBA/NBDL floater contract at rate 75% of 30th pick 2 yr with team option 3rd year, 3rd round 1 year Dleague deal with team option for 2yr at floater salary

Draft: real simple teams are not top 3 eligible two years in a row, same odds for teams 1-7 and 8-14. Make the entire 1-14 a lottery