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Marcus Smart in the post
« on: October 06, 2016, 03:55:52 PM »

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I don't remember seeing Smart work out of the post much but he's so much bigger than your average PG and so much stronger than even most SG's I think if he develops a consistent post game it could be great for him, especially with all of the C's shooting bigs.

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Re: Marcus Smart in the post
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2016, 04:03:39 PM »

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Yep I was gonna say this but thought I'd wait until i see some more games, marcus is a big guy I dont think there's a point guard in the nba that can stop him taking it down to the baseline. I watched some clippers game down the final stretch last year and chris paul has a nice faceup jumper from 10ft and a fadeaway to go with it. Hopefully brad can give a smart a steady diet of post-ups through the season.

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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2016, 05:03:42 PM »

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A post game would be huge for him. I hate saying this, but the bigger problem seems to be that Brad doesn't want to put Marcus in positions where he is able to score and be effective.

How long are you gonna put him off the ball and expect him to shoot the 3 ball at a decent percentage?

How long are you gonna have him go possessions upon possessions without touching the ball on offense, or dribble hand-off to someone else?

Why not use him to his strengths? Why not give him the ball and let him run some PnR? By the eye test last year he was pretty good at it. He's a better passer than people give him credit for. Doesn't seem to turn the ball over much when he's in the PnR. Also, why not go back to what made him so successful in college? Driving to the rim and getting contact? He's not gonna be able to do it when he doesn't have the ball. Why not run more post ups for him? (speaking of which, his post up vs Philly was nice, although you can argue he got away with a carry).

I love Terry, but I still would rather see Smart develop into the starter level point guard instead. The guy hasn't had a chance at all! He looked pretty solid in his rookie year when he was the starting point guard. His percentages were solid too. Last year he barely gets time on the ball thanks to Turner, and he has a pretty Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. season. So now that Turner is gone, why not try Marcus as the backup ball handler? Why not go back to what worked out in Marcus's rookie season? Why go immediately to Terry? Try Marcus out in some games, if he doesn't work out, then go to Terry. But the dude has patiently played any role Brad wants him to play. How about returning the favor to the guy? Who knows? Maybe you get the 6th man this team needs. There's no harm in trying.


Sorry, I've been kinda frustrated with how Marcus has been treated over the past week or so. Both in the scrimmage and in the game vs Philly. There is an opportunity, it's preseason. Why not let the dude do what he does best? I love Brad, but I've grown a little frustrated with his decision making in stuff like this.
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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2016, 05:18:31 PM »

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A post game would be huge for him. I hate saying this, but the bigger problem seems to be that Brad doesn't want to put Marcus in positions where he is able to score and be effective.

How long are you gonna put him off the ball and expect him to shoot the 3 ball at a decent percentage?

How long are you gonna have him go possessions upon possessions without touching the ball on offense, or dribble hand-off to someone else?

Why not use him to his strengths? Why not give him the ball and let him run some PnR? By the eye test last year he was pretty good at it. He's a better passer than people give him credit for. Doesn't seem to turn the ball over much when he's in the PnR. Also, why not go back to what made him so successful in college? Driving to the rim and getting contact? He's not gonna be able to do it when he doesn't have the ball. Why not run more post ups for him? (speaking of which, his post up vs Philly was nice, although you can argue he got away with a carry).

I love Terry, but I still would rather see Smart develop into the starter level point guard instead. The guy hasn't had a chance at all! He looked pretty solid in his rookie year when he was the starting point guard. His percentages were solid too. Last year he barely gets time on the ball thanks to Turner, and he has a pretty **** season. So now that Turner is gone, why not try Marcus as the backup ball handler? Why not go back to what worked out in Marcus's rookie season? Why go immediately to Terry? Try Marcus out in some games, if he doesn't work out, then go to Terry. But the dude has patiently played any role Brad wants him to play. How about returning the favor to the guy? Who knows? Maybe you get the 6th man this team needs. There's no harm in trying.


Sorry, I've been kinda frustrated with how Marcus has been treated over the past week or so. Both in the scrimmage and in the game vs Philly. There is an opportunity, it's preseason. Why not let the dude do what he does best? I love Brad, but I've grown a little frustrated with his decision making in stuff like this.



 Tp Boston, couldn't agree more. Although not as athletic, I feel like Smart in Mini Lebron, and that's exactly what I said about Lebron.

 Hey dude, why don't you get a post game? Your the size of Karl Malone. Smart is bigger than Billups or Marc Jackson, beat up on those skinny guards.

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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2016, 05:24:41 PM »

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I completely agree that Smart's strengths haven't been utilized. After two years, we should be very happy about his defense and expect more from him offensively. Specifically, he needs to drive to the basket more and he needs to hit more of his shots. If he can do both of these, he has all star potential. If not, he will be a role player that was picked 6th overall. If he can develop a post game, we could have a more athletic version of Jason Kidd.


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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2016, 05:29:08 PM »

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It will be handy now that so many teams are playing multi-PG line-ups. A much better outlet for Smart's hero-ball impulses than jacking 3s.
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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2016, 11:14:58 AM »

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He had a nice little post up against Marvin Williams (6 inches taller) last night. In the post, Smart's strength and quickness really look great. Imagine him in a lineup with Horford and Olynyk (or Crowder or Brown) at the 4, he could work the offense from the post, if he gets comfortable enough scoring down there.

Get him some tape of Jordan and Kobe posting up.
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« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2016, 01:56:33 PM »

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He had a nice little post up against Marvin Williams (6 inches taller) last night. In the post, Smart's strength and quickness really look great. Imagine him in a lineup with Horford and Olynyk (or Crowder or Brown) at the 4, he could work the offense from the post, if he gets comfortable enough scoring down there.

Get him some tape of Jordan and Kobe posting up.

Here's the real tape that Marcus needs to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv6Jko9l67Y
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So are we giving up on his jumpshot yet?

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« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2016, 02:48:52 PM »

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So are we giving up on his jumpshot yet?

no, it looked better yesterday. he is starting to get a nice midrange game going, especially out of the pick and roll.
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2016, 03:39:17 PM »

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If he stay healthy , then he can be more consistent as everybody wants.   When he was hurt all the time , he had to revise his play to accommodate his injury to stay on the court.

Now he can put together some offensive go to drives / shots t go with his defense.

Health is everything.

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Btw .....there is a funny short video I found on Bleacher Report .....entitled Smart schooling Brown

They are in practice ,  Marcus gets the best of him in the video ". Tells the world " about it.

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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2016, 05:14:01 PM »

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Btw .....there is a funny short video I found on Bleacher Report .....entitled Smart schooling Brown

They are in practice ,  Marcus gets the best of him in the video ". Tells the world " about it.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBD56TkOwFA

if i ever saw marcus in real life and didnt know who he was, i would never have guessed he was an NBA player. some people might call that strength, but he really looks a little fat in that clip.
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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