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Re: Giannis signs for 4 years, $100 million
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2016, 05:57:07 PM »

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He's another one of those guys everyone assumes is going to make major leaps.  Could be a huge year for him, though.  He had a solid year and he's only 21.

In 28 post-allstar games:  18.8 points, 8.6 rebounds, 7.2 assists, 1.9 blocks, 1.4 steals with 51% shooting.... pretty awesome.

Has he helped the bucks into the playoffs?

Ind stats are overrated. Just look at cousins, melo anthony stats the past few seasons..

Actually, he did.  In 2014-15.  An 8 seed but still a playoff berth.

Organization had a major stepback last season.  I think personnel around Giannis is an issue as probably the coaching but it's tough to point the finger at Giannis being the problem there.


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Re: Giannis signs for 4 years, $100 million
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2016, 05:57:47 PM »

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He's another one of those guys everyone assumes is going to make major leaps.  Could be a huge year for him, though.  He had a solid year and he's only 21.

In 28 post-allstar games:  18.8 points, 8.6 rebounds, 7.2 assists, 1.9 blocks, 1.4 steals with 51% shooting.... pretty awesome.

Has he helped the bucks into the playoffs?

Ind stats are overrated. Just look at cousins, melo anthony stats the past few seasons..

He is 21. Years away from his prime. We have Kelly instead. It's not even a debate who was the better pick. Also, I would love to have DMC or Carmelo on this team. Elite offensive talent is what this team needs. The Greek Freek has showed flashes of athletic greatness. Let's hope Jaylen Brown is as good at 21.
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Re: Giannis signs for 4 years, $100 million
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2016, 07:05:33 PM »

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I wish we traded for  him instead of KO, anyone else?

Re: Giannis signs for 4 years, $100 million
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2016, 07:46:33 PM »

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I knew Olynyk was going to come up sooner or later.

Re: Giannis signs for 4 years, $100 million
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2016, 08:42:11 PM »

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He's another one of those guys everyone assumes is going to make major leaps.  Could be a huge year for him, though.  He had a solid year and he's only 21.

In 28 post-allstar games:  18.8 points, 8.6 rebounds, 7.2 assists, 1.9 blocks, 1.4 steals with 51% shooting.... pretty awesome.
I think he already leaped, and he can leap some more.  The guy took it to another level when they played him at point guard.  I'd take him over Wiggins without a moments hesitation.

Re: Giannis signs for 4 years, $100 million
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2016, 09:26:47 PM »

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He's another one of those guys everyone assumes is going to make major leaps.  Could be a huge year for him, though.  He had a solid year and he's only 21.

In 28 post-allstar games:  18.8 points, 8.6 rebounds, 7.2 assists, 1.9 blocks, 1.4 steals with 51% shooting.... pretty awesome.
I think he already leaped, and he can leap some more.  The guy took it to another level when they played him at point guard.  I'd take him over Wiggins without a moments hesitation.

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Re: Giannis signs for 4 years, $100 million
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2016, 09:36:10 PM »

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I'm surprised his agent caved on a non-max deal.

Performance/injury-risk plus risk that a CBA renegotiation alters the max salary downwards, would be my guess.  He got about 95% of the max.  Also it wouldn't surprise me if he got a large signing bonus.  It could be up to $15 million, which would be nearly double Giannis' career earnings to date.  It's not insane to not hold out for every last penny.

He doesn't need a signing bonus the contracts are guaranteed and bonuses are taxed much higher so I doubt he would want that. If he needs money that bad he can get a loan against his contract, institutions would line up for that.

Re: Giannis signs for 4 years, $100 million
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2016, 12:35:47 AM »

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I'm surprised his agent caved on a non-max deal.

Performance/injury-risk plus risk that a CBA renegotiation alters the max salary downwards, would be my guess.  He got about 95% of the max.  Also it wouldn't surprise me if he got a large signing bonus.  It could be up to $15 million, which would be nearly double Giannis' career earnings to date.  It's not insane to not hold out for every last penny.

He doesn't need a signing bonus the contracts are guaranteed and bonuses are taxed much higher so I doubt he would want that. If he needs money that bad he can get a loan against his contract, institutions would line up for that.

1) If you get the money now, it means you can invest it now, which means it's worth more than waiting.

2) Bomuses are very often constructed to avoid state income taxes, and thus are taxed at a lower rate than salary, not higher rate.

3) Getting a loan against a contract would be very, very dumb.  Incredibly dumb.

Re: Giannis signs for 4 years, $100 million
« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2016, 12:36:55 AM »

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He's another one of those guys everyone assumes is going to make major leaps.  Could be a huge year for him, though.  He had a solid year and he's only 21.

In 28 post-allstar games:  18.8 points, 8.6 rebounds, 7.2 assists, 1.9 blocks, 1.4 steals with 51% shooting.... pretty awesome.

Has he helped the bucks into the playoffs?

Ind stats are overrated. Just look at cousins, melo anthony stats the past few seasons..

Actually, he did.  In 2014-15.  An 8 seed but still a playoff berth.

Organization had a major stepback last season.  I think personnel around Giannis is an issue as probably the coaching but it's tough to point the finger at Giannis being the problem there.

Bucks were the 6 seed when they made it, not the 8 seed.

Re: Giannis signs for 4 years, $100 million
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2016, 01:03:12 AM »

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Re: Giannis signs for 4 years, $100 million
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2016, 08:19:14 AM »

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I think Giannis is a fine player but I am glad it is not the Celtics who are paying him that money.  It is not a question about whether he is better than Olynyk or if DA should have picked him.  The question is if he is the best use of $100M of salary.  I don't think he will turn out to be the best use of  that money.

I understand that MIL needed to overpay so they don't loose him for nothing.  It is not necessarily a bad deal but I am not like "oh I wish the Celtics could have at that deal".

Re: Giannis signs for 4 years, $100 million
« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2016, 09:07:08 AM »

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I think Giannis is a fine player but I am glad it is not the Celtics who are paying him that money.  It is not a question about whether he is better than Olynyk or if DA should have picked him.  The question is if he is the best use of $100M of salary.  I don't think he will turn out to be the best use of  that money.

I understand that MIL needed to overpay so they don't loose him for nothing.  It is not necessarily a bad deal but I am not like "oh I wish the Celtics could have at that deal".
I don't know how a team could better spend that money.  The guy is already awesome and he's still a baby with tons of room to get even better.

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« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2016, 09:25:30 AM »

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I'd absolutely max him.

Re: Giannis signs for 4 years, $100 million
« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2016, 09:30:33 AM »

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He's another one of those guys everyone assumes is going to make major leaps.  Could be a huge year for him, though.  He had a solid year and he's only 21.

In 28 post-allstar games:  18.8 points, 8.6 rebounds, 7.2 assists, 1.9 blocks, 1.4 steals with 51% shooting.... pretty awesome.

Has he helped the bucks into the playoffs?

Ind stats are overrated. Just look at cousins, melo anthony stats the past few seasons..

Actually, he did.  In 2014-15.  An 8 seed but still a playoff berth.

Organization had a major stepback last season.  I think personnel around Giannis is an issue as probably the coaching but it's tough to point the finger at Giannis being the problem there.

Bucks were the 6 seed when they made it, not the 8 seed.

Yeah, I conflated the seeding of the '13 & '15 teams. Regardless, the larger point remains that they've made the playoffs with Giannis.


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Re: Giannis signs for 4 years, $100 million
« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2016, 12:10:09 PM »

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I think Giannis is a fine player but I am glad it is not the Celtics who are paying him that money.  It is not a question about whether he is better than Olynyk or if DA should have picked him.  The question is if he is the best use of $100M of salary.  I don't think he will turn out to be the best use of  that money.

I understand that MIL needed to overpay so they don't loose him for nothing.  It is not necessarily a bad deal but I am not like "oh I wish the Celtics could have at that deal".
I don't know how a team could better spend that money.  The guy is already awesome and he's still a baby with tons of room to get even better.

Agreed.  Short of an established superstar like James, Durant, Curry or Westbrook, I can't think of a better investment than Giannis Antetokounmpo.  His age, his production, his potential to keep getting better make it an easy choice to sign him to a near max contract.
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C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson