Are the C's going to lose Nader and regret it?

[walker834]

He definately showed some things in summer league.  He's 6'6" 198 pounds and already plays like a more mobile, athletic less experienced Jerebko.  I get where the Celtics are coming from that they can't develop 6 or 7 guys but they really can.  jackson got a guaranteed deal and Bentil got a partial and seems like the Celtics just went down the line here since those 2 guys were drafted first and are hoping Nader will end up in Maine. The problem with this is he can then really sign with anyone.

He looks more impressive than  Bentil and even Jackson so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jcP3DVdyrg

I can understand locking up Mickey and Jackson as potential roleplayers down the road.  We also are bringing along Brown and Smart as young guys.   Hunter is around.  We can ditch Bentil and Young to bring the roster to 15. 

There is no room for Nader here especially with the signing of Gerald Green?  That might be the move the Celtics regret.  Even the Zeller signing might have been a bit overkill although he was more signed to fill the big man quota.  We went the vet route with both moves considering we have Jerebko already. 

I can't argue with Ainge's logic here too much since he's trying to put together a roster for this year, but would be a shame if he turns out good and signs somewhere else.

[CoachBo]

No.

[BitterJim]

Will we lose him? Maybe, but I highly doubt it

Will we regret it if we do? No

[walker834]

That's some pretty soft defense in summer league but his game is light years ahead of a guy like Gerald Green.  Green is just a better shooter and dunker that's about it.  Nader actually appears to have a game.  Whether that translates to the nba in limited minutes vs a guy who can dunk and spot up and shoot who knows.

He's 6'6" 198 pounds and projects as nothing more than a roleplayer right now.  I like his game though. He plays on both ends.  If he were 6'10" and bigger he'd be a gallinari clone.

[Surferdad]

There's a misunderstanding here on what it means for Nader to play for Maine.  He would be stashed there in the same way as Yabusele and Zizic are stashed, but under the "new" D-league stash approach that has emerged in the past 2 years.  The downside for him is the paltry $25K salary but the upside is that he was actually drafted and also more visibility to the big club (and yes, to other NBA teams).

I believe he made a promise to Ainge, and that's why Jackson and Bentil got partially guaranteed deals.  Without the promise, he might not have gotten drafted at all.  Then what happened is that he had a great SL and realized he could have gotten an NBA contract, so now his agent is pushing for it.  The problem is, it's sort of too late for that. He has no leverage since the C's own his rights.  His only other option now is to wait out a full year to free him from the Celtics rights, and that's not really advisable career-wise.

So, Ainge is betting the C's won't lose him, and it looks like a good bet.

[cons]

its like when the light side had annakin and then they lost him to the dark side...

i dont want darth nader kickin our butt in the purple and gold!!

yikes!!

[rollie mass]

nader 3point shot looked fine ,hegot to thehoop both right and left hand-has elite length-nader was way under the radar with defenses focused on jaylen
 bentil had a better body of work at providence and a very bad summer league
if the guy made the deal and reneges that is his choice and danny will either respect him for his desire or kick him to the curb for breaking his word
a gutsy move for a guy drafted so late -he looked real solid -but green has 10 years experience and avg 15points with isaiah

[chambers]

There's a misunderstanding here on what it means for Nader to play for Maine.  He would be stashed there in the same way as Yabusele and Zizic are stashed, but under the "new" D-league stash approach that has emerged in the past 2 years.  The downside for him is the paltry $25K salary but the upside is that he was actually drafted and also more visibility to the big club (and yes, to other NBA teams).

I believe he made a promise to Ainge, and that's why Jackson and Bentil got partially guaranteed deals.  Without the promise, he might not have gotten drafted.  Then what happened is that he had a great SL and realized he could have gotten an NBA contract, so now his agent is pushing for it.  The problem is, it's sort of too late for that. He has no leverage since the C's own his rights.  His only other option now is to out out a full year to free him from the Celtics rights, and that's not really advisable career-wise.

So, Ainge is betting the C's won't lose him, and it looks like a good bet.

That is an awesome summary and I had no idea that this is the likely story here.

TP and thankyou.

[kraidstar]

No.

comment of the decade!!!

your analysis is second to none, bo.

as for the actual thread, i doubt danny lets him walk if they really think he is any good. james young is as good as gone - that leaves one more spot that would need to be freed up for abdel, and this is assuming he refuses to be stashed, which i think is far from certain.

i figure they work something out, especially if they really did have an agreement in place before the draft. if he messes around with the c's too much they could feasibly still sign him then make life difficult for him down the road. better for both sides if they do something amicably.

if there are no big trades and we do free up a second roster spot, first guy on the chopping block should be bentil. don't like his toughness or defense, he looks really inept. but his college performance was good enough we might be able to get a late second for him.

much rather have nader, he has a great NBA body, and seems to have the late-blooming skill to go with it. hopefully it translates to the big leagues.

[ManUp]

I don't know why, but when I saw him play he reminded me of Scal.

[LatterDayCelticsfan]

About as much as Etwaun Moore. A 2nd round pick who wound up being serviceable in the NBA elsewhere, but not unreplaceable

[walker834]

Brown is the star and the guy to keep but I like Nader.  Would be nice not to lose him if we make a deal. Right now with Crowder, Brown, Jerebko and Green he isn't going to even come close to touching the nba roster but if we make a deal he might.

I don't think it's the end of the world but I like him better than I ever liked Etwaun Moore or Brandon Hunter.

Right now he reminds me of so many guys that have a good all around game and never make it though. He seems like a guy who could shine given the opportunity.  It might not end up being here.

Gerald Green has some Jeff Green tendencies. I don't see that with Nader at all. He might not be the shooter or athlete but the guy at least plays.

That said Gerald in a role here and how he's turned it around will be better than Jeff was. Nader to me is like a lesser talented Jeff Green who plays the game right.

[JumpingJudkins]

The only reason Nader was drafted was because he agreed to be stashed in the D League. If his agent reneges on that handshake deal, he'll have some explaining to do.

[walker834]

It makes sense then.   I feel like some team like the Nuggets or Mavericks will offer him a deal and play him though.  Bentil not sure what is going to happen with him.

I like to think teams aren't underhanded like that.  But who knows. The Mavs might try to steal him since we got Crowder from them.

That stuff is probably frowned upon though.

[gift]

its like when the light side had annakin and then they lost him to the dark side...

i dont want darth nader kickin our butt in the purple and gold!!

yikes!!

and just like that a nickname was born.