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Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #60 on: August 17, 2016, 07:43:51 PM »

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Cousins benched in favor of Jordan today.

well, he played much better today lol
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

you vs. the guy she tells you not to worry about

Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #61 on: August 18, 2016, 12:38:16 AM »

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The support for Cousins seems misplaced. Did they miss him manhandling Marcus Smart? It is too risky. Maybe as a free agent you think it over. Cousins' attitude is very bad. You don't want dirty players acting like divas and always getting themselves into controversy.

He is too risky for team chemistry. It's better to remain stacked in depth. A bunch of young Celtics will eventually rise to the top and all it will take is an addition like Horford who we got.

We just need a Perkins. Maybe give Colton Iverson a year of that role and then see what's up with Zizac. Swap Zeller for a big center and we are close to title business.

Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #62 on: August 18, 2016, 01:07:47 AM »

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The support for Cousins seems misplaced. Did they miss him manhandling Marcus Smart? It is too risky. Maybe as a free agent you think it over. Cousins' attitude is very bad. You don't want dirty players acting like divas and always getting themselves into controversy.

He is too risky for team chemistry. It's better to remain stacked in depth. A bunch of young Celtics will eventually rise to the top and all it will take is an addition like Horford who we got.

We just need a Perkins. Maybe give Colton Iverson a year of that role and then see what's up with Zizac. Swap Zeller for a big center and we are close to title business.
Superstars win. We need a superstar talent. Demarcus Cousins is such a talent and that's why he's worth taking that risk on.

Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #63 on: August 18, 2016, 01:34:05 AM »

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Superstars win. We need a superstar talent. Demarcus Cousins is such a talent and that's why he's worth taking that risk on.

You still have to factor in his effect on chemistry and that he does often play dirty and takes off plays. He is not a top of the top player. Maybe that is the debate. I see him more as a Kevin Love unless he drops the baby man act and focuses. He could be a KG level force. Maybe he needs a therapist. Something is very off with him.

He is not a Larry Bird, best of the best.

Noel would have as much chance as Cousins to somehow flourish in a historic manner producing a legacy if he became a Celtic and would cost a lot less.

You'd have to gut the team to get him in a trade. You'd become at best the rich man's treadmill version of Sacramento.

He has the potential to be great, but he isn't fulfilling it. He is not on our team and his team sucks, so I don't get why there is so much discussion on DeMarcus Cousins. It's not surprising to hear he is playing very badly on the Olympic team.

We have superstar potential already on the team. Stevens is good at drawing that out of players. It is almost time to start the season and pile up a lot of wins.

Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #64 on: August 18, 2016, 02:06:25 AM »

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I gotta feeling Noel is coming home. Boogie remains in some other story.

Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #65 on: August 18, 2016, 03:59:02 AM »

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You know it's getting rough for Cousins when even Gerald Green starts trolling him:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzqtV63hWrI

Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #66 on: August 18, 2016, 04:12:36 AM »

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He is not a Larry Bird, best of the best.

At 24 years old, Demarcus Cousins averaged 24.1 Pts, 12.7 Reb, 3.6 Ast, 1.5 stl, 1.7 blk and 4.3 turnovers in 34.1 minutes on 47% / 25% / 78% shooting

At 24 years old, Larry Bird averaged 21.2 Pts, 10.9 Reb, 5.5 Ast, 2.0 stl, 0.8 Blk and 3.5 Turnovers in 39.5 Minutes on 48% / 27% / 86% shooting

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At 25 years old, Demarcus Cousins averaged 26.9 Pts, 11.5 Reb, 3.3 Ast, 1.6 Stl, 1.4 Blk and 3.8 Turnovers in 34.1 Minutes on 45% / 33% / 72% shooting

At 25 years old, Larry Bird averaged 22.9 Pts, 10.9 Reb, 5.9 Ast, 1.9 Stl, 0.9 Blk and 3.3 Turnovers in 38.0 Minutes on 50% / 21% / 86% shooting
 
You're saying that Demarcus Cousins is not a Larry Bird caliber talent.  I'm telling your right now that he's got the potential to be better.

People keep on forgetting that Demarcus Cousins is not only putting up some all time great worthy numbers - he's doing it in a pretty modest number of minutes, at the age of 25, and he's getting better EVERY year.

Larry Bird didn't start putting up monster numbers until he was around 28 years old.  Can you IMAGINE the type of numbers Cousins could be putting up by the time he reaches that age?

No, he doesn't have Larry Bird's intangibles.  He's not the type of competitor or leader that Bird was, that's obvious and doesn't even need to be said.  But as a pure talent Cousins is on a whole other level when compared against just about anybody not names Russell Westbrook or Lebron James. 

IF this kid ever gets his head screwed on right, it's frightening how good he could be.  He could be the best player in the NBA  2-3 years from now...he genuinely has that type of potential.

Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #67 on: August 18, 2016, 07:29:38 AM »

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You're saying that Demarcus Cousins is not a Larry Bird caliber talent.  I'm telling your right now that he's got the potential to be better.

This is absurd.  Statwise, but not intangibles.   Bird led teams to titles.   He made his team mates better.   Cousins is a solid player, but few would call him a leader.   He tends to lead coaches into getting canned rather than his team mates for titles. 

Bird had won a title in 1981, he was born in 1959.  So at 22, and 25 he won titles.   We will not be able to say that Demarcus.  So Bird at 25 two NBA titles, Counsins 0.

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IF this kid ever gets his head screwed on right, it's frightening how good he could be.  He could be the best player in the NBA  2-3 years from now...he genuinely has that type of potential.

It is doubtful, he gets it screwed on right.  He is still a solid player.

Can I ask you what your smoking?   Because if I ever get a terminal disease I want some, because you seem to be able to create your own reality.

Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #68 on: August 18, 2016, 07:39:00 AM »

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talent is not enough to make you bird-level kind of player. Cousins seems to luck the mental toughness and leadership qualities necessary.

but comparing Bird and Cousins based on the titles is absurd.  Unless you can see any similarities between 80s Celtics and the Kings

Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #69 on: August 18, 2016, 07:43:11 AM »

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Between the way the Olympic game is officiated and the relative poor fit of Team USA with a bunch of individuals with no real team, I can't imagine a worse environment for Cousins to succeed in than that. It's hardly fair to judge him based on this little bit rather than his years of NBA experience.

This guys ENTIRE career is people making excuses for a poor environment around him...Gimme a break--at some point, it's HIM.

Is there a worse organization in the NBA than Sacramento? He *has* been in a poor environment.

Is there even a worse run organization in all four major sports than Sacramento? I give him credit that he hasn't asked for a trade yet. Shocking to me. I'd say ,"get me out of here. "

Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #70 on: August 18, 2016, 07:50:49 AM »

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For all the crying and the baby attitude( which is valid) the nba should be embarassed this guy had been picked over by lesser players for the all star team in the past. He's brought much on himself, agreed. But the bias against him is very evident to me, and over the top.

Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #71 on: August 19, 2016, 12:02:20 PM »

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He played well in 2014 FIBA world championships. Averaged roughly 10&5 in 13 minutes.