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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahVAgCPbiAw

Anyone else getting the feeling that Danny made a solid pick here at #3?
He's pretty much the youngest guy on the floor in every game and will be in his first year in the NBA. Given his physical profile, IQ and athleticism, we may have a legitimate All Star candidate on our hands in a few years.
He plays both ends, and is an absolute magnet for contact as one of the announcers said during SL.
Biggest weakness so far is his tunnel vision and lack of passing or looking to create for others.
Given his IQ he'll adjust this soon and with some coaching and watching film will see how his aggressiveness towards the basket creates open looks for others.
Anyway, I'm very happy with the pick. I wanted one of Hield, Dunn or Brown and even though it's summer league, it's hard and rare for top 5 picks to come out and display what he's done the past few weeks- especially at his young age.
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I liked the pick on draft night and love it now.  Brown fits a position of need, and looks like he has some special skills that he is only scratching the surface of.  I have no concerns over his shot either, form looks good and he has shown a nice first step.

Only 19, excited for his future!

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He definitely had an encouraging summer league. He can get the the basket whenever he wants. Real NBA defenders will be more disciplined and we won't get as many FT's, but the potential is clear. And defensively he was every bit as good as advertised.

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I didn't LOVE the pick, but was content with it, but now I think we may have low key drafted the real successor to Paul Pierce. Obviously he's still raw and will not look great by any means in his first year, but once he gets used to playing in the NBA and tweaks his game a little bit....dang.

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He impressed me during SL but I liked the pick to begin with. He has tons of talent and is still really young so he could be an all-star someday.
His jumpshot isn't that broken he has spots where he shoots much better on the floor he didn't shoot well from the corners but at the top of the arc he shot pretty well.
And I don't think his tunnel vision will be much of a problem once he starts working with Brad he'll learn the system. leading scorers need tunnel vision sometimes and that's exactly what we need because when our offense goes stagnant nobody takes charge and Brown seems like type of player that wants to take every single shot and I like that

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He wasn't one of the 10 best rookies in Summer league, but I don't think it matters.  He's young and has the tools.  He can develop into a really good player in a few years.

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He wasn't one of the 10 best rookies in Summer league, but I don't think it matters.  He's young and has the tools.  He can develop into a really good player in a few years.

Were there really 10 other rookies who you thought were better than Jaylen in summer league?
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He wasn't one of the 10 best rookies in Summer league, but I don't think it matters.  He's young and has the tools.  He can develop into a really good player in a few years.

Yes he was

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He wasn't one of the 10 best rookies in Summer league, but I don't think it matters.  He's young and has the tools.  He can develop into a really good player in a few years.

Were there really 10 other rookies who you thought were better than Jaylen in summer league?
Statistically, there were 10 other rookies who outperformed Jaylen in Summer league.   I showed it in the Summer league thread.   Jaylen was the 64th best player in Summer League this year.  His poor shooting was a main culprit. 

But fwiw, Brandon Ingram was 104th and Ben Simmons basically tied with Brown in EFF.   

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He wasn't one of the 10 best rookies in Summer league, but I don't think it matters.  He's young and has the tools.  He can develop into a really good player in a few years.

Were there really 10 other rookies who you thought were better than Jaylen in summer league?
Statistically, there were 10 other rookies who outperformed Jaylen in Summer league.   I showed it in the Summer league thread.   Jaylen was the 64th best player in Summer League this year.  His poor shooting was a main culprit. 

But fwiw, Brandon Ingram was 104th and Ben Simmons basically tied with Brown in EFF.

Imo more about "impact" vs overall stats

Example jamal murray scored 29 yesterday, yet was not solid on the defensive end.

Brown has been solid on both ends (not considering games he couldnt do alot due to injury).  Also consider browns ability to rack up the opposing team foul totals. This will be an important tool at the nba level

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He wasn't one of the 10 best rookies in Summer league, but I don't think it matters.  He's young and has the tools.  He can develop into a really good player in a few years.

Were there really 10 other rookies who you thought were better than Jaylen in summer league?
Statistically, there were 10 other rookies who outperformed Jaylen in Summer league.   I showed it in the Summer league thread.   Jaylen was the 64th best player in Summer League this year.  His poor shooting was a main culprit. 

But fwiw, Brandon Ingram was 104th and Ben Simmons basically tied with Brown in EFF.

Imo more about "impact" vs overall stats

Example jamal murray scored 29 yesterday, yet was not solid on the defensive end.

Brown has been solid on both ends (not considering games he couldnt do alot due to injury).  Also consider browns ability to rack up the opposing team foul totals. This will be an important tool at the nba level

Here you go:  http://publish.smartsheet.com/82ef118d828045a1817ce44456b313dd

He and Simmons tied for 15th/16th amongst rookies (and 64th/65th amongst all Summer League participants).

Part of the problem is that Brown shot 32% ... that was 40th amongst rookies.  That kind of thing can't be ignored.  It's a negative impact on the team if a guy shoots atrociously. 

But I agree you can for the most part overlook it when considering Brown's future.  Hopefully, he eventually learns how to shoot and finish consistently.  It might take him 3-5 years, but I have hope he'll get there.   This year, I'd be surprised to see him doing much offensively for our team.  His performance was worse than Smart's rookie performance.


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I really liked Dragan Bender as a prospect.  But I am warming up to Jaylen Brown as our top selection.

1.  He has an NBA-ready body -today-.  Which is a big pro in his favor.
2.  He has an aggressive mindset.  He doesn't shy away from taking charge and attacking the basket. [That led to him living at the free throw line during SL].
3.  Brown has athleticism that you can't teach.  You can see that he has it at an elite level, and there were very few Celtics that you can say had that same level of athleticism.

To me, Brown appears to be very similar to Jeff Green but more aggressive.  Green always had the talent, but he just never had the mindset to 'take charge' of games.  I don't think that will be a problem for Brown.

So if Brown hits his ceiling, the sky is the limit.  Of course he has weaknesses he needs to improve upon -- shooting, handle, finishing, shot selection.  But once he does, he could become a very special player.  Which is exactly what we need.  The only question is how long will it take for Brown to put it all together, and can he reach his admittedly very high ceiling.

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...growing on me. Eager to see how he'll do spending time with some real hard nosed players.

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He wasn't one of the 10 best rookies in Summer league, but I don't think it matters.  He's young and has the tools.  He can develop into a really good player in a few years.

Were there really 10 other rookies who you thought were better than Jaylen in summer league?
Statistically, there were 10 other rookies who outperformed Jaylen in Summer league.   I showed it in the Summer league thread.   Jaylen was the 64th best player in Summer League this year.  His poor shooting was a main culprit. 

But fwiw, Brandon Ingram was 104th and Ben Simmons basically tied with Brown in EFF.

Imo more about "impact" vs overall stats

Example jamal murray scored 29 yesterday, yet was not solid on the defensive end.

Brown has been solid on both ends (not considering games he couldnt do alot due to injury).  Also consider browns ability to rack up the opposing team foul totals. This will be an important tool at the nba level

Here you go:  http://publish.smartsheet.com/82ef118d828045a1817ce44456b313dd

He and Simmons tied for 15th/16th amongst rookies (and 64th/65th amongst all Summer League participants).

Part of the problem is that Brown shot 32% ... that was 40th amongst rookies.  That kind of thing can't be ignored.  It's a negative impact on the team if a guy shoots atrociously. 

But I agree you can for the most part overlook it when considering Brown's future.  Hopefully, he eventually learns how to shoot and finish consistently.  It might take him 3-5 years, but I have hope he'll get there.   This year, I'd be surprised to see him doing much offensively for our team.  His performance was worse than Smart's rookie performance.

I have never seen a player who shoots 32% make some of the shots he made. I mean, that baseline fallaway against a defender all over him? It wasn't one of us, it wasn't an optimistic message board cheerleader, it wasn't a Celtics homer who said without hesitation that it looked like Michael ****ing Jordan, lol, it was the neutral play-by-play guy.
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He wasn't one of the 10 best rookies in Summer league, but I don't think it matters.  He's young and has the tools.  He can develop into a really good player in a few years.

Were there really 10 other rookies who you thought were better than Jaylen in summer league?
Statistically, there were 10 other rookies who outperformed Jaylen in Summer league.   I showed it in the Summer league thread.   Jaylen was the 64th best player in Summer League this year.  His poor shooting was a main culprit. 

But fwiw, Brandon Ingram was 104th and Ben Simmons basically tied with Brown in EFF.

Imo more about "impact" vs overall stats

Example jamal murray scored 29 yesterday, yet was not solid on the defensive end.

Brown has been solid on both ends (not considering games he couldnt do alot due to injury).  Also consider browns ability to rack up the opposing team foul totals. This will be an important tool at the nba level

Here you go:  http://publish.smartsheet.com/82ef118d828045a1817ce44456b313dd

He and Simmons tied for 15th/16th amongst rookies (and 64th/65th amongst all Summer League participants).

Part of the problem is that Brown shot 32% ... that was 40th amongst rookies.  That kind of thing can't be ignored.  It's a negative impact on the team if a guy shoots atrociously. 

But I agree you can for the most part overlook it when considering Brown's future.  Hopefully, he eventually learns how to shoot and finish consistently.  It might take him 3-5 years, but I have hope he'll get there.   This year, I'd be surprised to see him doing much offensively for our team.  His performance was worse than Smart's rookie performance.

forget about stats (like fg per) and like I said look at the bigger picture/impact

if Brown goes 2-7 but goes to the FT line 17 times. What does this show?

yes his fg stinks but its only a small sample.  Went to the line 17 times. Digest that for a sec

In SL there is no fouling out.  In the NBA there is.    This is the kind of impact to get excited about

Also he was solid on the defensive end.  I don't remember one instance a guy just blew past him or through a PNR he was made look silly. He fought around screens, active hands for steals and had several breakaway scoring chances/dunks