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Re: RJ Hunter is better than James Young, but does it even matter?
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2016, 03:12:14 AM »

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I must be the only person who prefers James Young to RJ Hunter at this point, and it wasn't that way going into the summer league for me.  People complain about Young's defense, and rightfully so, but Hunter's is worse.  He got caught out of position all the time, leading to a lot of fouls.  On offense, he turned it over a decent amount, and I thought his shot selection wasn't always good.

Now, maybe Hunter was asked to do more, and that led to worse results.  I don't know.  But I did think Young performed his role better than Hunter performed his own.

But I don't like either, and hope both get traded.  I don't see either ever being key contributors to playoff teams.
I think RJ needs a system to be effective. The chaotic style of summer league where you have to rely on yourself more doesn't suit him. Last year he was impressive with hia length amd help defence but kept getting bullied. So I still have him above Young.
I'm not gonna lose sleep if one goes out in a trade though. RJ sounds like a Doc type player so I'd expect him to be involved in a trade with them.
Hunter can be a ball handler too which is the key difference to me. It makes him a more versatile piece than Young

Re: RJ Hunter is better than James Young, but does it even matter?
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2016, 08:40:57 AM »

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I don't see why we'd keep either one past this year, and we may very well give up a late second rounder and one of them this season just to clear space.

Because, at least in theory, they both can shoot.

Re: RJ Hunter is better than James Young, but does it even matter?
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2016, 11:35:01 AM »

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Things aren't looking so good for Young:
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James Young (knee) didn't play, after only 7 minutes Wednesday. Coach Jamie Young on why: "I really wasn’t happy with the way he played."
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Re: RJ Hunter is better than James Young, but does it even matter?
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2016, 11:39:22 AM »

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I don't see why we'd keep either one past this year, and we may very well give up a late second rounder and one of them this season just to clear space.

Because, at least in theory, they both can shoot.

They're really doing no harm as 13th 14th or 15th guys in Maine. Let me try and prove themselves til the rookie deal is up. If Young still can't produce then waive him. Otherwise what's hurting?

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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2016, 11:45:01 AM »

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I must be the only person who prefers James Young to RJ Hunter at this point, and it wasn't that way going into the summer league for me.  People complain about Young's defense, and rightfully so, but Hunter's is worse.  He got caught out of position all the time, leading to a lot of fouls.  On offense, he turned it over a decent amount, and I thought his shot selection wasn't always good.

Now, maybe Hunter was asked to do more, and that led to worse results.  I don't know.  But I did think Young performed his role better than Hunter performed his own.

But I don't like either, and hope both get traded.  I don't see either ever being key contributors to playoff teams.

You're not completely alone. I'm more ready to move away from Hunter than I'm from Young.
include me as well. hunter is pretty much what you see, the 10th to 11th man on a team, if that.

young has shown progress, slow, not a lot, but progress. plus, young is, well young.  ;D i think he still has some upside and untapped potential left. if he finally can start shooting 3s in the nba as he does in the dleague, then he is worth hanging on to.

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Re: RJ Hunter is better than James Young, but does it even matter?
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2016, 12:00:34 PM »

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They are pretty much 13th to 15th guys on a roster so it doesn't matter much on if one is slightly better than the other at this point. It's about the long term IMO. And I do still think I'd keep Young over Hunter because he is a couple years younger. Maybe Young can reach 9 to 11 man on a roster. Hunter though I don't see it from as he was a go to guy in college, had more coaching, is older and got a ton more PT. You can't say he has any true upside. The only thing you can ask is he get about 20% better and not suck. Young still has upside meaning he can greatly improve from what we see right now. Too many people are impatient with young players. Not everyone can be Kobe or TMac. I'd at least give Young this last year. Hunter I let go if it's a battle for the final roster spot.

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« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2016, 12:31:40 PM »

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young has shown progress, slow, not a lot, but progress. plus, young is, well young.  ;D i think he still has some upside and untapped potential left. if he finally can start shooting 3s in the nba as he does in the dleague, then he is worth hanging on to.

I have to say that I must be blind or some of the posters on here are relatives of Young.

I'm sorry but there is NOTHING there. I don't care if he's 12 years old. I can't wait 10 years for him to become a backup rotation player. Goodbye.

Re: RJ Hunter is better than James Young, but does it even matter?
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2016, 12:44:57 PM »

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I don't think either are anything to get excited about. Just possible fodder for trades or just to take up a roster spot. Both are young but I would have expected a bigger jump from them, especially Young who is now in his third season. Some players might just take a little longer to figure it out. If these guys do, it just might not be with the Celtics. Ditto with Mickey as well.

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« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2016, 12:56:18 PM »

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I must be the only person who prefers James Young to RJ Hunter at this point, and it wasn't that way going into the summer league for me.  People complain about Young's defense, and rightfully so, but Hunter's is worse.  He got caught out of position all the time, leading to a lot of fouls.  On offense, he turned it over a decent amount, and I thought his shot selection wasn't always good.

Now, maybe Hunter was asked to do more, and that led to worse results.  I don't know.  But I did think Young performed his role better than Hunter performed his own.

But I don't like either, and hope both get traded.  I don't see either ever being key contributors to playoff teams.

You're not completely alone. I'm more ready to move away from Hunter than I'm from Young.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVH_kQY7IRE#t=1m15s  ;D

I have a risk averse personality, so my gut feeling is to keep them both for this year; and Hunter's D has been subpar so far. "I'm serious".

Re: RJ Hunter is better than James Young, but does it even matter?
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2016, 01:03:03 PM »

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Interesting stat the announcers shared during one of the SL games:

RJ Hunter shot the second-highest percentage (45.8%) on wide open threes in the league, right behind Steph Curry (46.2%).

If we ran the offense for RJ like we did for Ray Allen, running him off of picks to get him open shots he might actually produce. 

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« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2016, 01:06:49 PM »

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Q: RJ Hunter is better than James Young, but does it even matter?

A: No, neither player is NBA caliber and will not be on the Celtics roster much longer.

I just don't think it's wise to continue using roster spots on players that have no future with the team. Neither player contributes enough to justify a spot on the team.

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« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2016, 01:12:34 PM »

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Things aren't looking so good for Young:
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James Young (knee) didn't play, after only 7 minutes Wednesday. Coach Jamie Young on why: "I really wasn’t happy with the way he played."

haha...well that is to the point.  Young certainly hasn't seemed to develop much over the last couple of years.  I don't really see him developing into even a decent bench player on a playoff team.  I have no problem sending him out, cutting him whatever.  Not all mid 1st round draft picks work out...move on.

Hunter, I might give him another year, but depends on other moves.  To me he has shown more than Young, but I would be fine if he is cut / traded too.

These are borderline roster guys either way.  I hope Nader sticks, but who knows.

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« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2016, 01:23:34 PM »

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Interesting stat the announcers shared during one of the SL games:

RJ Hunter shot the second-highest percentage (45.8%) on wide open threes in the league, right behind Steph Curry (46.2%).

If we ran the offense for RJ like we did for Ray Allen, running him off of picks to get him open shots he might actually produce.

People act like running him off picks are an easy task. It takes a lot of agility, and stamina to run through picks like Allen did. Allen may not have been Westbrook athletically, but he had an knack for finding openings that most shooters to this day couldn't. Its a good thing Bradley learned a thing or two from Allen at least. But Hunter is slow as molasses, and I would say Young could fare far better than Hunter in that same exact scenario.
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Re: RJ Hunter is better than James Young, but does it even matter?
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2016, 01:25:31 PM »

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I don't see why we'd keep either one past this year, and we may very well give up a late second rounder and one of them this season just to clear space.

Because, at least in theory, they both can shoot.

So what? There are many other players we could acquire for next to nothing that can shoot, except in reality not theory.

If we were the Sixers, yeah sure throw them out there once in a while and hope they show something. But we are trying to go deep in the playoffs. Our 12th man at SG should be a vet who can step off the bench and hit some open shots while not being an utter embarrassment in every other facet of the game, and give 15-20 minutes of spot relief in cases of foul trouble or injury.

Young and Hunter are not meeting even that minimal bar. We'd be well-served by waiving one or both if we can replace them with actual NBA players.

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« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2016, 01:27:53 PM »

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Interesting stat the announcers shared during one of the SL games:

RJ Hunter shot the second-highest percentage (45.8%) on wide open threes in the league, right behind Steph Curry (46.2%).

If we ran the offense for RJ like we did for Ray Allen, running him off of picks to get him open shots he might actually produce.

Hunter shot a total of 63 3s. This sample is too small.