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Re: Sporting News: C's targeting Griffin, will make major deal soon
« Reply #735 on: July 18, 2016, 01:09:29 PM »

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"Legitimate website". That's how low we've slipped these days.

? The guy is questioning those on RealGM like it is some tabloid. It's a legitimate basketball source. I have no idea what you are trying to get at.
Can you kindly elaborate on your interpretation of the term "legitimate"?

Why don't you actually explain what you are actually trying to get at before I kindly elaborate anything.

If you don't think the RealGM website is actual relevant basketball source/website I'm not sure what to tell you. I shouldn't have to elaborate anything (or whatever it is you are actually looking for or alluding to).
You should, in fact, because you're the one making claims.

Nah, it's on you. I've now asked you three times, including now, to actually specify what you are looking for. You haven't. Stop being smug. I'm not making any 'claims.' Smitty working for RealGM in some kind of capacity is a fact. Him being a moderator is a fact. Him attending the summer leagues (Orlando is closed to the public by the way) is a fact. Shams going from RealGM to the Vertical with Woj is a fact. These aren't claims that are some how arguable. I've actually provided some information on what and who some of these RealGM folks are. It's on you to provide whatever questions you want to ask which you haven't yet. You are just making broad and vague statements in your two or three replies to me. What do you think RealGM is? You know it exists beyond the forums, correct?

RealGM is literally in flames right now. Horribly toxic environment there. I hate posting there, it's so negative and so evil, lol.

Side note (for those who believe Smitty): it seems he may stop posting there. Lots of users are attacking him there, and to make it worse, guys like Dan Lifshatz and our own Kevin O'Connor cited him recently and used the quotes that he had obtained  from his sources. I think it's very likely that at the end of all this, he unfortunately loses a few of his contacts. He already lost one earlier this week due to people posting it all over twitter.

Basically, RealGM is in a bad state right now.
Let it burn.  It's about time those fanboys overthrow their fake insiders and clean house.  I'm not sure how they've survived a decade of seeing these trolls post fake information without demanding a better moderation team.

Frankly, anyone who quoted these people in their articles should be ashamed.  It's worse than a tabloid.  It's "Weekly World News" level nonsense.

That said, maybe we trade for Blake tomorrow and these people take credit... despite the fact people like Bill Simmons have been saying for several months that Blake Griffin is the sleeper trade candidate.

You have no idea what you are talking about, as usual. I don't know why you have always been so salty that there are a few people on RealGM that have some legit contacts. Smitty works for RealGM (the actual website, and he's a mod) and went to two summer leagues (Orlando and Vegas). He's easily as legitimate as they come. Are his sources actually good, though? That's a different question all together. Why should anyone be ashamed for quoting a legitimate RealGM employee who attended NBA Summer Leagues as an employee? RealGM is a legitimate basketball website that has seen a couple writers go on to greater websites (see Shams Charania). 

There have been a few that came through and were obviously BS, and they've always been shunned off the board ASAP.

Good post. TP.

The issue with RealGM has always been posters, not people with legitimate information - which makes it no different than any other internet fan board.
RealGM is mainly an aggregate of information from other websites.  They just link to ESPN articles, for instance.  Because of the nature of that website, their forums are a cess pool of wannabe GM's.  For years, fans have pretended to have insider sources.   A lot of folks there are "respected" despite the fact they have repeatedly been proven to be frauds.  The fanboys who breathlessly digest their "info" attack anyone who attempts to discredit their beloved fake insiders. 

It is what it is.

You talk about better moderation, but Smitty is a mod himself who actually works for RealGM as a cap specialist of sorts (his work is actually pretty awesome). But you can go on and keep putting your fingers in your ears about this..
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Re: Sporting News: C's targeting Griffin, will make major deal soon
« Reply #736 on: July 18, 2016, 01:27:30 PM »

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I'm looking for you to explain what you mean when you say "legitimate". It really isn't a complicated question.
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Re: Sporting News: C's targeting Griffin, will make major deal soon
« Reply #737 on: July 18, 2016, 01:30:10 PM »

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I'm looking for you to explain what you mean when you say "legitimate". It really isn't a complicated question.

I am looking for you to explain why you need me to do that. I want to know your intentions which you never made clear. It's not that complicated a question.

Re: Sporting News: C's targeting Griffin, will make major deal soon
« Reply #738 on: July 18, 2016, 01:30:46 PM »

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So I can't read all 48 pages. Did Celtics trade for Griffin yet?
every legitimate writer has said this rumor is fake.

But griffin could be traded (perhaps to us) eventually if the clippers get the sense he's not coming back in free agency.  There's no point to trading him now.  You'd more likely see Chris Paul moved.

Re: Sporting News: C's targeting Griffin, will make major deal soon
« Reply #739 on: July 18, 2016, 01:32:34 PM »

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I'm looking for you to explain what you mean when you say "legitimate". It really isn't a complicated question.

I am looking for you to explain why you need me to do that. I want to know your intentions which you never made clear. It's not that complicated a question.
You could have just said you're not interested in this conversation and you would have saved both of us some bandwidth.
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Re: Sporting News: C's targeting Griffin, will make major deal soon
« Reply #740 on: July 18, 2016, 01:38:40 PM »

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RealGM is literally in flames right now. Horribly toxic environment there. I hate posting there, it's so negative and so evil, lol.

Side note (for those who believe Smitty): it seems he may stop posting there. Lots of users are attacking him there, and to make it worse, guys like Dan Lifshatz and our own Kevin O'Connor cited him recently and used the quotes that he had obtained  from his sources. I think it's very likely that at the end of all this, he unfortunately loses a few of his contacts. He already lost one earlier this week due to people posting it all over twitter.

Basically, RealGM is in a bad state right now.
Let it burn.  It's about time those fanboys overthrow their fake insiders and clean house.  I'm not sure how they've survived a decade of seeing these trolls post fake information without demanding a better moderation team.

Frankly, anyone who quoted these people in their articles should be ashamed.  It's worse than a tabloid.  It's "Weekly World News" level nonsense.

That said, maybe we trade for Blake tomorrow and these people take credit... despite the fact people like Bill Simmons have been saying for several months that Blake Griffin is the sleeper trade candidate.

You have no idea what you are talking about, as usual. I don't know why you have always been so salty that there are a few people on RealGM that have some legit contacts. Smitty works for RealGM (the actual website, and he's a mod) and went to two summer leagues (Orlando and Vegas). He's easily as legitimate as they come. Are his sources actually good, though? That's a different question all together. Why should anyone be ashamed for quoting a legitimate RealGM employee who attended NBA Summer Leagues as an employee? RealGM is a legitimate basketball website that has seen a couple writers go on to greater websites (see Shams Charania). 

There have been a few that came through and were obviously BS, and they've always been shunned off the board ASAP.

Good post. TP.

The issue with RealGM has always been posters, not people with legitimate information - which makes it no different than any other internet fan board.
RealGM is mainly an aggregate of information from other websites.  They just link to ESPN articles, for instance.  Because of the nature of that website, their forums are a cess pool of wannabe GM's.  For years, fans have pretended to have insider sources.   A lot of folks there are "respected" despite the fact they have repeatedly been proven to be frauds.  The fanboys who breathlessly digest their "info" attack anyone who attempts to discredit their beloved fake insiders. 

It is what it is.

It is what it is, right. And what it is, is not what you think it is. BfB is an actual professional scout, for example. Do you deny that?

Is that true? I didn't know that. Is he an active scout or he did it in the past?

Looks like he's still very active. I know his name, and he is still working and writing and scouting for DraftExpress. I'd rather not divulge his name here in case he prefers to remain low-key, but if you do some googling I'm pretty sure he's identified himself before.

Yeah, I agree. Member over there, but I don't post much. Just scan the boards looking for information from the three sources you've referenced - and one of them is Smitty.

Which, I am certain, will enrage the posters here who refuse to admit anyone could possibly know anything about the Celtics except Danny Ainge.
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Re: Sporting News: C's targeting Griffin, will make major deal soon
« Reply #741 on: July 18, 2016, 01:41:11 PM »

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I don't know about everyone else but if we could get Westbrook to stay for more then a rental I would love him!

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Re: Sporting News: C's targeting Griffin, will make major deal soon
« Reply #742 on: July 18, 2016, 01:44:33 PM »

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I'm looking for you to explain what you mean when you say "legitimate". It really isn't a complicated question.

I am looking for you to explain why you need me to do that. I want to know your intentions which you never made clear. It's not that complicated a question.
You could have just said you're not interested in this conversation and you would have saved both of us some bandwidth.

Then you shouldn't have said anything in the first place. Please tell me how the website isn't 'legitimate.'

Re: Sporting News: C's targeting Griffin, will make major deal soon
« Reply #743 on: July 18, 2016, 01:46:06 PM »

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My bad, I shouldn't have even brought up RealGM. Evidently some of us aren't able to listen to facts.
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Re: Sporting News: C's targeting Griffin, will make major deal soon
« Reply #744 on: July 18, 2016, 01:51:26 PM »

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I'm looking for you to explain what you mean when you say "legitimate". It really isn't a complicated question.

I am looking for you to explain why you need me to do that. I want to know your intentions which you never made clear. It's not that complicated a question.
You could have just said you're not interested in this conversation and you would have saved both of us some bandwidth.

Then you shouldn't have said anything in the first place. Please tell me how the website isn't 'legitimate.'
I've got no idea what a "legitimate website" is, so I'm afraid I can't answer your question. Let's not go through that again.
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Re: Sporting News: C's targeting Griffin, will make major deal soon
« Reply #745 on: July 18, 2016, 01:55:17 PM »

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RealGM is literally in flames right now. Horribly toxic environment there. I hate posting there, it's so negative and so evil, lol.

Side note (for those who believe Smitty): it seems he may stop posting there. Lots of users are attacking him there, and to make it worse, guys like Dan Lifshatz and our own Kevin O'Connor cited him recently and used the quotes that he had obtained  from his sources. I think it's very likely that at the end of all this, he unfortunately loses a few of his contacts. He already lost one earlier this week due to people posting it all over twitter.

Basically, RealGM is in a bad state right now.
Let it burn.  It's about time those fanboys overthrow their fake insiders and clean house.  I'm not sure how they've survived a decade of seeing these trolls post fake information without demanding a better moderation team.

Frankly, anyone who quoted these people in their articles should be ashamed.  It's worse than a tabloid.  It's "Weekly World News" level nonsense.

That said, maybe we trade for Blake tomorrow and these people take credit... despite the fact people like Bill Simmons have been saying for several months that Blake Griffin is the sleeper trade candidate.

You have no idea what you are talking about, as usual. I don't know why you have always been so salty that there are a few people on RealGM that have some legit contacts. Smitty works for RealGM (the actual website, and he's a mod) and went to two summer leagues (Orlando and Vegas). He's easily as legitimate as they come. Are his sources actually good, though? That's a different question all together. Why should anyone be ashamed for quoting a legitimate RealGM employee who attended NBA Summer Leagues as an employee? RealGM is a legitimate basketball website that has seen a couple writers go on to greater websites (see Shams Charania). 

There have been a few that came through and were obviously BS, and they've always been shunned off the board ASAP.

Good post. TP.

The issue with RealGM has always been posters, not people with legitimate information - which makes it no different than any other internet fan board.
RealGM is mainly an aggregate of information from other websites.  They just link to ESPN articles, for instance.  Because of the nature of that website, their forums are a cess pool of wannabe GM's.  For years, fans have pretended to have insider sources.   A lot of folks there are "respected" despite the fact they have repeatedly been proven to be frauds.  The fanboys who breathlessly digest their "info" attack anyone who attempts to discredit their beloved fake insiders. 

It is what it is.

It is what it is, right. And what it is, is not what you think it is. BfB is an actual professional scout, for example. Do you deny that?

Is that true? I didn't know that. Is he an active scout or he did it in the past?

Looks like he's still very active. I know his name, and he is still working and writing and scouting for DraftExpress. I'd rather not divulge his name here in case he prefers to remain low-key, but if you do some googling I'm pretty sure he's identified himself before.

Yeah, I agree. Member over there, but I don't post much. Just scan the boards looking for information from the three sources you've referenced - and one of them is Smitty.

Which, I am certain, will enrage the posters here who refuse to admit anyone could possibly know anything about the Celtics except Danny Ainge.

I believe Smitty, Bfb, and LFB are the actual insiders over there. They're legitimate media members. Smitty, for example, was credentialed and at SL for a week+. It's possible that his sources are wrong, but he does have sources.
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Re: Sporting News: C's targeting Griffin, will make major deal soon
« Reply #746 on: July 18, 2016, 01:59:53 PM »

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I'm looking for you to explain what you mean when you say "legitimate". It really isn't a complicated question.

I am looking for you to explain why you need me to do that. I want to know your intentions which you never made clear. It's not that complicated a question.
You could have just said you're not interested in this conversation and you would have saved both of us some bandwidth.

Then you shouldn't have said anything in the first place. Please tell me how the website isn't 'legitimate.'
I've got no idea what a "legitimate website" is, so I'm afraid I can't answer your question. Let's not go through that again.

Larbrd called it a tabloid (i.e. not legitimate). I called it legitimate. It's not that complicated to understand what was being said.

Re: Sporting News: C's targeting Griffin, will make major deal soon
« Reply #747 on: July 18, 2016, 02:00:20 PM »

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RealGM is literally in flames right now. Horribly toxic environment there. I hate posting there, it's so negative and so evil, lol.

Side note (for those who believe Smitty): it seems he may stop posting there. Lots of users are attacking him there, and to make it worse, guys like Dan Lifshatz and our own Kevin O'Connor cited him recently and used the quotes that he had obtained  from his sources. I think it's very likely that at the end of all this, he unfortunately loses a few of his contacts. He already lost one earlier this week due to people posting it all over twitter.

Basically, RealGM is in a bad state right now.
Let it burn.  It's about time those fanboys overthrow their fake insiders and clean house.  I'm not sure how they've survived a decade of seeing these trolls post fake information without demanding a better moderation team.

Frankly, anyone who quoted these people in their articles should be ashamed.  It's worse than a tabloid.  It's "Weekly World News" level nonsense.

That said, maybe we trade for Blake tomorrow and these people take credit... despite the fact people like Bill Simmons have been saying for several months that Blake Griffin is the sleeper trade candidate.

You have no idea what you are talking about, as usual. I don't know why you have always been so salty that there are a few people on RealGM that have some legit contacts. Smitty works for RealGM (the actual website, and he's a mod) and went to two summer leagues (Orlando and Vegas). He's easily as legitimate as they come. Are his sources actually good, though? That's a different question all together. Why should anyone be ashamed for quoting a legitimate RealGM employee who attended NBA Summer Leagues as an employee? RealGM is a legitimate basketball website that has seen a couple writers go on to greater websites (see Shams Charania). 

There have been a few that came through and were obviously BS, and they've always been shunned off the board ASAP.

Good post. TP.

The issue with RealGM has always been posters, not people with legitimate information - which makes it no different than any other internet fan board.
RealGM is mainly an aggregate of information from other websites.  They just link to ESPN articles, for instance.  Because of the nature of that website, their forums are a cess pool of wannabe GM's.  For years, fans have pretended to have insider sources.   A lot of folks there are "respected" despite the fact they have repeatedly been proven to be frauds.  The fanboys who breathlessly digest their "info" attack anyone who attempts to discredit their beloved fake insiders. 

It is what it is.

It is what it is, right. And what it is, is not what you think it is. BfB is an actual professional scout, for example. Do you deny that?

Is that true? I didn't know that. Is he an active scout or he did it in the past?

Looks like he's still very active. I know his name, and he is still working and writing and scouting for DraftExpress. I'd rather not divulge his name here in case he prefers to remain low-key, but if you do some googling I'm pretty sure he's identified himself before.

Yeah, I agree. Member over there, but I don't post much. Just scan the boards looking for information from the three sources you've referenced - and one of them is Smitty.

Which, I am certain, will enrage the posters here who refuse to admit anyone could possibly know anything about the Celtics except Danny Ainge.

I believe Smitty, Bfb, and LFB are the actual insiders over there. They're legitimate media members. Smitty, for example, was credentialed and at SL for a week+. It's possible that his sources are wrong, but he does have sources.

EXACTLY! Thank you! Some people don't get it, idk how. They're presented their evidence over the years, and I see no reason why we should doubt the fact that they have sources. How good their sources are, that's another discussion.
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Re: Sporting News: C's targeting Griffin, will make major deal soon
« Reply #748 on: July 18, 2016, 02:05:20 PM »

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EXACTLY! Thank you! Some people don't get it, idk how. They're presented their evidence over the years, and I see no reason why we should doubt the fact that they have sources. How good their sources are, that's another discussion.
I'm not sure how it's another discussion. It boils down to a simple question: how much of what RealGM presents is based on said "inside sources", and how much is a syndication of stuff already reported by other news outlets. That's not too hard to figure out.

Moreover, as you may have noticed, even supposed RealGM insiders like Smith do so much random "filling in the blanks" that what put out there seems to be completely divorced from reality.
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Re: Sporting News: C's targeting Griffin, will make major deal soon
« Reply #749 on: July 18, 2016, 02:16:27 PM »

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I'm looking for you to explain what you mean when you say "legitimate". It really isn't a complicated question.

I am looking for you to explain why you need me to do that. I want to know your intentions which you never made clear. It's not that complicated a question.
You could have just said you're not interested in this conversation and you would have saved both of us some bandwidth.

Then you shouldn't have said anything in the first place. Please tell me how the website isn't 'legitimate.'
I've got no idea what a "legitimate website" is, so I'm afraid I can't answer your question. Let's not go through that again.

Larbrd called it a tabloid (i.e. not legitimate). I called it legitimate. It's not that complicated to understand what was being said.
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