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Re: Celtics (0-0) vs Bulls (0-0) Vegas SL Game 1 7/9/16
« Reply #315 on: July 09, 2016, 08:08:19 PM »

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2 notes before I bid you farewell,

1.) Brown was most obviously hurt. It was the single most obvious fact of the night. Even the commentators made note of it.

2) When danny is burning through his 10 billion picks, just pick one larger than average body who can rebound. This is freaking summer league, and our "bigs" are getting out muscled and out bodied by portis (granted, kind of expected given his draft pedigree) and cooley (who is cooley?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!.) Not to mention we got worked over by Wood against Philly. Come on Danny, just for me pick a large guy. Lets not settle for 6'8 centers and powerforwards who can "move their feet well."
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Re: Celtics (0-0) vs Bulls (0-0) Vegas SL Game 1 7/9/16
« Reply #316 on: July 09, 2016, 08:23:31 PM »

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A major positive comes out of this, though -- the Mickey Club gets hard evidence as to why he's not an NBA player.
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Re: Celtics (0-0) vs Bulls (0-0) Vegas SL Game 1 7/9/16
« Reply #317 on: July 09, 2016, 08:25:54 PM »

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A major positive comes out of this, though -- the Mickey Club gets hard evidence as to why he's not an NBA player.

It's notoriously difficult to assess how bigs play in summer league.

I dont think Mickey is a center, and he sure can't create his shot in a messy game like that one. During the regular season playing next to Amir or Horford he might do better just focusing on what he can do well.
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Re: Celtics (0-0) vs Bulls (0-0) Vegas SL Game 1 7/9/16
« Reply #318 on: July 09, 2016, 08:27:36 PM »

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2 notes before I bid you farewell,

1.) Brown was most obviously hurt. It was the single most obvious fact of the night. Even the commentators made note of it.

2) When danny is burning through his 10 billion picks, just pick one larger than average body who can rebound. This is freaking summer league, and our "bigs" are getting out muscled and out bodied by portis (granted, kind of expected given his draft pedigree) and cooley (who is cooley?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!.) Not to mention we got worked over by Wood against Philly. Come on Danny, just for me pick a large guy. Lets not settle for 6'8 centers and powerforwards who can " move their feet well."
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Read up above. Basically I am coming at this from a summer league perspective (idiotic I know.) So while Zizic would probably meet that specific need, he won't be available until NEXT summer league.
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'But Danny's proliferation of undersized PFs and Cs with even late 2nds has really bit us a bit. Although I really like Bentil, so its all over the place.

It is more about putting our other players in a meaningless summer league game in a position to succeed. We are just basically ignoring a major spot in our rotation so that we can stuff the deck with "maybes" without any regard to how those pieces fit together. Maybe a big guy who can get stops would increase the amount of fast break opportunities for our multiple open court players. Just an example.
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Re: Celtics (0-0) vs Bulls (0-0) Vegas SL Game 1 7/9/16
« Reply #319 on: July 09, 2016, 08:32:54 PM »

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2 notes before I bid you farewell,

1.) Brown was most obviously hurt. It was the single most obvious fact of the night. Even the commentators made note of it.

2) When danny is burning through his 10 billion picks, just pick one larger than average body who can rebound. This is freaking summer league, and our "bigs" are getting out muscled and out bodied by portis (granted, kind of expected given his draft pedigree) and cooley (who is cooley?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!.) Not to mention we got worked over by Wood against Philly. Come on Danny, just for me pick a large guy. Lets not settle for 6'8 centers and powerforwards who can " move their feet well."
zizac says hi.

Read up above. Basically I am coming at this from a summer league perspective (idiotic I know.) So while Zizic would probably meet that specific need, he won't be available until NEXT summer league.
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'But Danny's proliferation of undersized PFs and Cs with even late 2nds has really bit us a bit. Although I really like Bentil, so its all over the place.

I agree.  Even if we just had a guy like Cooley, it would have put other guys in a position to play better.

Re: Celtics (0-0) vs Bulls (0-0) Vegas SL Game 1 7/9/16
« Reply #320 on: July 09, 2016, 08:39:07 PM »

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A major positive comes out of this, though -- the Mickey Club gets hard evidence as to why he's not an NBA player.

Didnt Mickey dominate, statically,  in the D league last year? I'm not sure what is happening to his game. Summer league doesn't have that much more talent.

He didnt look good at all today though.
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Re: Celtics (0-0) vs Bulls (0-0) Vegas SL Game 1 7/9/16
« Reply #321 on: July 09, 2016, 08:45:07 PM »

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no one looked good today outside of Rozier who just continues to do his thing.

Re: Celtics (0-0) vs Bulls (0-0) Vegas SL Game 1 7/9/16
« Reply #322 on: July 09, 2016, 08:47:41 PM »

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Rozier is basically the only guy who has anything on lock.

Rozier looks so in control out there. Forced to do crazy stuff with the ball and still manages to find something.

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Re: Celtics (0-0) vs Bulls (0-0) Vegas SL Game 1 7/9/16
« Reply #323 on: July 09, 2016, 08:51:40 PM »

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2 notes before I bid you farewell,

1.) Brown was most obviously hurt. It was the single most obvious fact of the night. Even the commentators made note of it.

2) When danny is burning through his 10 billion picks, just pick one larger than average body who can rebound. This is freaking summer league, and our "bigs" are getting out muscled and out bodied by portis (granted, kind of expected given his draft pedigree) and cooley (who is cooley?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!.) Not to mention we got worked over by Wood against Philly. Come on Danny, just for me pick a large guy. Lets not settle for 6'8 centers and powerforwards who can "move their feet well."
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Can he rebound from Croatia? That would be impressive.

Re: Celtics (0-0) vs Bulls (0-0) Vegas SL Game 1 7/9/16
« Reply #324 on: July 09, 2016, 08:53:29 PM »

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Very disappointing overall from Brown. However, still some positives. First, he looked a bit hobbled so you might be able to cut him a bit of a break(only a tiny one, youre gonna have to play through knocks in the NBA). His shot looks nice in catch and shoot situations, he needs to figure out how to keep his form and locate the basket when he shoots off the dribble and when curling of screens etc. his burst is just as advertised and hes actually quicker on his feet and most importantly his handle seems much better than I expected. This combination suggests to me that he will be able to get to the rim at will in the NBA.

He needs to learn much better defensive fundamentals. With his tools he should be a defensive stopper, not just OK. Then the big one. He needs to do a better job at the rim/in the pain. He blows by his defender with ease and seems to always go right to the rim with no plan. It might be that the game is too quick for him. If the game slows down for him, he will finish much better and be able to avoid charges and create easy baskets by dishing the ball in the paint.

Still optimistic about the kid. The brightside is that 2 of his weaknesses (ballhandling and shooting) seem to be a bit overblown while his strengths (really just athleticism) seems to be legitimate.

Listen, in fairness to the kid, I thought that he looked slightly slower out there, although maybe that's just me (feel free to give your views on this, btw :)).  Is it the knee?  Probably, but let's see if he plays tomorrow.  If he doesn't, well, like you said, it doesn't completely excuse his performance, but I'd cut him some slack.

Re: Celtics (0-0) vs Bulls (0-0) Vegas SL Game 1 7/9/16
« Reply #325 on: July 09, 2016, 08:54:31 PM »

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2 notes before I bid you farewell,

1.) Brown was most obviously hurt. It was the single most obvious fact of the night. Even the commentators made note of it.

2) When danny is burning through his 10 billion picks, just pick one larger than average body who can rebound. This is freaking summer league, and our "bigs" are getting out muscled and out bodied by portis (granted, kind of expected given his draft pedigree) and cooley (who is cooley?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!.) Not to mention we got worked over by Wood against Philly. Come on Danny, just for me pick a large guy. Lets not settle for 6'8 centers and powerforwards who can " move their feet well."
zizac says hi.

Read up above. Basically I am coming at this from a summer league perspective (idiotic I know.) So while Zizic would probably meet that specific need, he won't be available until NEXT summer league.
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'But Danny's proliferation of undersized PFs and Cs with even late 2nds has really bit us a bit. Although I really like Bentil, so its all over the place.

It is more about putting our other players in a meaningless summer league game in a position to succeed. We are just basically ignoring a major spot in our rotation so that we can stuff the deck with "maybes" without any regard to how those pieces fit together. Maybe a big guy who can get stops would increase the amount of fast break opportunities for our multiple open court players. Just an example.
This is a fair point. There are plenty of roster spot given tha they brought in Thornton (again), Walden, Pinkston all of whom will not make the team. For the sake of the development of those who are more likely to be on the roster, it would have been nice to bring in bonafide 7-footer so guys can play in their correct positions. Last game Young was guarding the center and today it was Jaylen. 

Re: Celtics (0-0) vs Bulls (0-0) Vegas SL Game 1 7/9/16
« Reply #326 on: July 09, 2016, 08:55:54 PM »

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Re: Celtics (0-0) vs Bulls (0-0) Vegas SL Game 1 7/9/16
« Reply #327 on: July 09, 2016, 08:57:16 PM »

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Re: Celtics (0-0) vs Bulls (0-0) Vegas SL Game 1 7/9/16
« Reply #328 on: July 09, 2016, 08:58:22 PM »

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I have a strong feeling we are going to be talking ourselves into Jaylen Brown when he's averaging well below 40% for the season in mid January.

If he does other things well then yeah.

Re: Celtics (0-0) vs Bulls (0-0) Vegas SL Game 1 7/9/16
« Reply #329 on: July 09, 2016, 08:59:10 PM »

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Very disappointing overall from Brown. However, still some positives. First, he looked a bit hobbled so you might be able to cut him a bit of a break(only a tiny one, youre gonna have to play through knocks in the NBA). His shot looks nice in catch and shoot situations, he needs to figure out how to keep his form and locate the basket when he shoots off the dribble and when curling of screens etc. his burst is just as advertised and hes actually quicker on his feet and most importantly his handle seems much better than I expected. This combination suggests to me that he will be able to get to the rim at will in the NBA.

He needs to learn much better defensive fundamentals. With his tools he should be a defensive stopper, not just OK. Then the big one. He needs to do a better job at the rim/in the pain. He blows by his defender with ease and seems to always go right to the rim with no plan. It might be that the game is too quick for him. If the game slows down for him, he will finish much better and be able to avoid charges and create easy baskets by dishing the ball in the paint.

Still optimistic about the kid. The brightside is that 2 of his weaknesses (ballhandling and shooting) seem to be a bit overblown while his strengths (really just athleticism) seems to be legitimate.

Listen, in fairness to the kid, I thought that he looked slightly slower out there, although maybe that's just me (feel free to give your views on this, btw :)).  Is it the knee?  Probably, but let's see if he plays tomorrow.  If he doesn't, well, like you said, it doesn't completely excuse his performance, but I'd cut him some slack.
Most of the night he looked a bit slow, but he had those moments where I thought he showed some burst and just overall I think I've seen enough to believe that the burst is legit.

He's gonna be frustrating because he has the same issues as Smart in that he struggles to finish and he isn't a great shooter, but he seems to be more intelligent about shot selection and his burst I think will let him get way more easy Latinos and dunks than Smart has.