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Re: No way Yabusele plays overseas
« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2016, 11:49:29 AM »

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Just because we got Horford does not mean we can ignore the development of our youth.
It also doesn't mean you give valuable roster spots to players that won't contribute to the team this year. Yabusele can develop overseas playing against established professionals. Bentil and Jackson can develop overseas or decide to sign a contract in the D League. You can develop players without having them on the roster. Look at what the C's did with Iverson and Thornton.

Re: No way Yabusele plays overseas
« Reply #31 on: July 08, 2016, 11:50:11 AM »

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He can sign with the dleague like Thornton did and it won't count just as if he played overseas.
Why would he choose to sign with the d-league? The contracts are horrible. He isn't going to come to the US to sign in the d-league. If he wants to come over now, the Celtics really have no choice but to sign him. The Celtics only other option is to lose him.

Why did Thornton choose it? Because the season is over overseas when the dleague starts playing. I'm not saying he will, I'm just saying it is possible without it counting against the roster.
I have no idea where you came up with this. French Pro A basketball runs October to June - and so do the rest of the major European leagues.
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Re: No way Yabusele plays overseas
« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2016, 11:57:44 AM »

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He can sign with the dleague like Thornton did and it won't count just as if he played overseas.
Why would he choose to sign with the d-league? The contracts are horrible. He isn't going to come to the US to sign in the d-league. If he wants to come over now, the Celtics really have no choice but to sign him. The Celtics only other option is to lose him.

Why did Thornton choose it? Because the season is over overseas when the dleague starts playing. I'm not saying he will, I'm just saying it is possible without it counting against the roster.
I have no idea where you came up with this. French Pro A basketball runs October to June - and so do the rest of the major European leagues.

Sorry, it was an assumption but I see that it was if your team sucks like Thornton's you choose to go to the dleague instead. I was wrong, TP for knowing the real deal.
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Re: No way Yabusele plays overseas
« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2016, 11:59:55 AM »

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I've seen enough to at least put him on the 15 man roster...
Only if Sullinger knew how to get to the basket like that...

Nothing that happens in the farce that is the summer league is enough to give anyone a roster spot.
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Re: No way Yabusele plays overseas
« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2016, 12:00:25 PM »

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He can sign with the dleague like Thornton did and it won't count just as if he played overseas.
Why would he choose to sign with the d-league? The contracts are horrible. He isn't going to come to the US to sign in the d-league. If he wants to come over now, the Celtics really have no choice but to sign him. The Celtics only other option is to lose him.

Why did Thornton choose it? Because the season is over overseas when the dleague starts playing. I'm not saying he will, I'm just saying it is possible without it counting against the roster.
I have no idea where you came up with this. French Pro A basketball runs October to June - and so do the rest of the major European leagues.

Sorry, it was an assumption but I see that it was if your team sucks like Thornton's you choose to go to the dleague instead. I was wrong, TP for knowing the real deal.
I know that Euro seasons may appear shorter if you just look at the total number of games -- but they play weekly there, so it takes just about the same amount of time on the balance.
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Re: No way Yabusele plays overseas
« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2016, 12:03:54 PM »

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He can sign with the dleague like Thornton did and it won't count just as if he played overseas.
Why would he choose to sign with the d-league? The contracts are horrible. He isn't going to come to the US to sign in the d-league. If he wants to come over now, the Celtics really have no choice but to sign him. The Celtics only other option is to lose him.

Why did Thornton choose it? Because the season is over overseas when the dleague starts playing. I'm not saying he will, I'm just saying it is possible without it counting against the roster.
I have no idea where you came up with this. French Pro A basketball runs October to June - and so do the rest of the major European leagues.

Sorry, it was an assumption but I see that it was if your team sucks like Thornton's you choose to go to the dleague instead. I was wrong, TP for knowing the real deal.
I know that Euro seasons may appear shorter if you just look at the total number of games -- but they play weekly there, so it takes just about the same amount of time on the balance.

I see. Thanks. How are their playoffs structured and when does it go on?
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Re: No way Yabusele plays overseas
« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2016, 12:16:07 PM »

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He can sign with the dleague like Thornton did and it won't count just as if he played overseas.
Why would he choose to sign with the d-league? The contracts are horrible. He isn't going to come to the US to sign in the d-league. If he wants to come over now, the Celtics really have no choice but to sign him. The Celtics only other option is to lose him.

Why did Thornton choose it? Because the season is over overseas when the dleague starts playing. I'm not saying he will, I'm just saying it is possible without it counting against the roster.
I have no idea where you came up with this. French Pro A basketball runs October to June - and so do the rest of the major European leagues.

Sorry, it was an assumption but I see that it was if your team sucks like Thornton's you choose to go to the dleague instead. I was wrong, TP for knowing the real deal.

Thornton played in the NBL (Australia's pro basketball league), which has a season that runs from October to February.  It had nothing to do with the quality of his team, just the league he was playing in (although the NBL is much worse than most European leagues)
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Re: No way Yabusele plays overseas
« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2016, 12:18:37 PM »

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For me, the Draymond Green comparison is a little extreme at this stage in Yabu's career. Mostly because they have very similar builds. Not to mention, there's a lot bball IQ and passing that he can improve on before he's on that Draymond level. If you want a more tempered ceiling for him, I would look more at Paul Millsap. Either way, it would be nice to get him in there sooner instead of later to play with Horford as much as possible; as well as adjust to the quick passing offense the Cs run

I agree. 0% chance he's ever as good as Draymond on D. Even Millsap is an optimistic upside comp, but at least there's like a 2% chance he becomes that good.

Re: No way Yabusele plays overseas
« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2016, 12:19:50 PM »

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He can sign with the dleague like Thornton did and it won't count just as if he played overseas.
Why would he choose to sign with the d-league? The contracts are horrible. He isn't going to come to the US to sign in the d-league. If he wants to come over now, the Celtics really have no choice but to sign him. The Celtics only other option is to lose him.

Why did Thornton choose it? Because the season is over overseas when the dleague starts playing. I'm not saying he will, I'm just saying it is possible without it counting against the roster.
I have no idea where you came up with this. French Pro A basketball runs October to June - and so do the rest of the major European leagues.

Sorry, it was an assumption but I see that it was if your team sucks like Thornton's you choose to go to the dleague instead. I was wrong, TP for knowing the real deal.

Thornton played in the NBL (Australia's pro basketball league), which has a season that runs from October to February.  It had nothing to do with the quality of his team, just the league he was playing in (although the NBL is much worse than most European leagues)

He was bad. I was thinking wth every time I saw him. I hear you though, thanks.
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Re: No way Yabusele plays overseas
« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2016, 12:38:11 PM »

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Shrewsberry is basically Staning over Yabu every time he talks about him. He seems overly excited when he talks about him.


I have tried to watch every rookie to see what they do without the ball a bit and he seems like he does a lot more than most of the guys. He doesn't just stand around begging for the ball. He makes good plays to end games and his D hasn't been terrible especially since people seem like they don't care about it in SL. He sets some good screens too. SL is so hard for bigs to truly standout because the guards touch the ball and they don't like to give it up. I have seen him roll so many times and they always miss him.


He has a lot of work to do to get better because he was lost at times and at times did some bad things but I like him. I wish he could get the chances we gave Young but there are more bigs ahead of him and Young couldn't hold onto to minutes CBS tried to give him (especially his rookie season).

People are in love with Bentil (not that its a bad thing) but I think Yabu has been better.
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Re: No way Yabusele plays overseas
« Reply #40 on: July 08, 2016, 12:58:25 PM »

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If Yabusele is on our roster this season, it'll be a failure of optimizing our roster possibilities.

What were you hoping for Chris Anderson ?

Yab is under contract for two more years in France.  At the very best he's a back of the bench big this year.  I'd much rather he continues to improve on someone else's dime without starting his service time clock.  It'd be much more valuable to have his age 22-26 years on his rookie deal than age 20-24.
After 3 years over there. He will not be under rookie contract rules. That is why Saric is staying overseas this year. Let him come now and learn from the soon to be Best Coach in the World.
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Re: No way Yabusele plays overseas
« Reply #41 on: July 08, 2016, 01:09:33 PM »

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I have tried to watch every rookie to see what they do without the ball a bit and he seems like he does a lot more than most of the guys. He doesn't just stand around begging for the ball. He makes good plays to end games and his D hasn't been terrible especially since people seem like they don't care about it in SL. He sets some good screens too. SL is so hard for bigs to truly standout because the guards touch the ball and they don't like to give it up. I have seen him roll so many times and they always miss him.
If I recall correclty, Ainge said they thought he was ready to contribute defensively right away.
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« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2016, 01:13:21 PM »

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Yabu will make the roster imo. Once zully are both gone to other teams

Danny said he expects 2 maybe 3 from the draft to make the roster


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« Reply #43 on: July 08, 2016, 01:16:47 PM »

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He can sign with the dleague like Thornton did and it won't count just as if he played overseas.
Why would he choose to sign with the d-league? The contracts are horrible. He isn't going to come to the US to sign in the d-league. If he wants to come over now, the Celtics really have no choice but to sign him. The Celtics only other option is to lose him.

Why did Thornton choose it? Because the season is over overseas when the dleague starts playing. I'm not saying he will, I'm just saying it is possible without it counting against the roster.
I didn't know he played both in Australia and the d-league right after.

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« Reply #44 on: July 08, 2016, 01:18:55 PM »

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Yabu will make the roster imo. Once zully are both gone to other teams

Danny said he expects 2 maybe 3 from the draft to make the roster



With Yabusele overseas it allows for one or two of Jackson and Bentil to make the roster along with Brown... of course depending on what happens with Zeller/Sullinger.

What best we can hope for though from a purely asset gathering AND 2016-17 season best roster is that all our rookies outside of Brown accept a non-NBA contract (trades and other FA targets aside).