POLL: Who gets traded to Philly for Okafor? Bradley, Smart, or Crowder?

[Beat LA]

*looks at Rozier's progress*

Well, I think we can comfortably do away with Smart 

j/k just wish that **** with the fro-hawk can learn to put it all together

Lol, TP . Who in their right mind goes into a place like Supercuts and says, "you know, I've always wanted my hair to look like a used saxophone cleaning brush."

[trickybilly]

I'm torn between Smart and Bradley. Who's your choice to be traded?

Zeller.

Too cheap, throw in a second rounder...

[slamtheking]

They are top heavy with guards. Rozier, Jackson and even Thornton have looked good in the summer league. They might get away with dealing one of these  plus a draft pick (not Nets) for Okafor or Noel. I prefer Okafor off his 20/10 performance the start of last season before he started playing with Noel. Okafor can score inside and protect the middle with his length. I hope they can make a deal because, right now, they don't have the inside-outside balance to be contenders.

I agree Butler is out of the picture. I think Ainge reminds the Bulls management too much of ex-Celtic Thibodeau to deal with him. They dealt Dunleavy to the Cavs, which could be telling you something. The Bulls are screwed up--that was evident when they fired Thibodeau. Maybe why Gasol left. Wade at this point doesn't help them much.

I was surprised a Philly-Celtics deal didn't go through draft time. Ainge and Colengelo go back to the Phoenix days. Maybe they'll still work something out.

I would not deal Crowder, Smart or Bradley for Okafor. That's the heart of their defense.

Can't say I know the ins and outs of NBA dealing, but wouldn't Philly want to recoup their draft capital, by exchanging their #3 pick (Okafor) for our #5 pick (Smart). Seems like they'd want fair value + other (hopefully non-BRKYLN) picks

Smart was #6 -- Exum was #5.

where a player was drafted is irrelevant.  a reasonable deal is based on exchanging equitable assets.

[Celtic_Pride777]

They are top heavy with guards. Rozier, Jackson and even Thornton have looked good in the summer league. They might get away with dealing one of these  plus a draft pick (not Nets) for Okafor or Noel. I prefer Okafor off his 20/10 performance the start of last season before he started playing with Noel. Okafor can score inside and protect the middle with his length. I hope they can make a deal because, right now, they don't have the inside-outside balance to be contenders.

I agree Butler is out of the picture. I think Ainge reminds the Bulls management too much of ex-Celtic Thibodeau to deal with him. They dealt Dunleavy to the Cavs, which could be telling you something. The Bulls are screwed up--that was evident when they fired Thibodeau. Maybe why Gasol left. Wade at this point doesn't help them much.

I was surprised a Philly-Celtics deal didn't go through draft time. Ainge and Colengelo go back to the Phoenix days. Maybe they'll still work something out.

I would not deal Crowder, Smart or Bradley for Okafor. That's the heart of their defense.

Can't say I know the ins and outs of NBA dealing, but wouldn't Philly want to recoup their draft capital, by exchanging their #3 pick (Okafor) for our #5 pick (Smart). Seems like they'd want fair value + other (hopefully non-BRKYLN) picks

Smart was #6 -- Exum was #5.

where a player was drafted is irrelevant.  a reasonable deal is based on exchanging equitable assets.

Makes sense. And thanks for that correction. TP

Just hope that if Danny wants Okafor, he doesn't give up those Brooklyn picks. That would be the kind of offer you'd make to gain a franchise player, and Okafor is hardly that. A missing piecce? Maybe. But not a centerpiece for a championship team.

[iadera]

Don't understand why everyone is so eager to trade away Smart. He's already a better player than Bradley, as he's better defensively, and offensively he's better at everything except shooting. He's also younger with much more room to grow, and he's on a rookie deal for two more years.

Just shooting? Ok, then he can pass.

[walker834]

Trading Smart is a mistake imo.  Okafor is a good big man and I really think we could use a couple good ones but these guys are not David Robinson here or guys like that.  The talent in the nba isn't that great where we could probably win with 2 good big men but even still. I'd trade Crowder out of those guys.

Isaiah
Bradley
Brown
Okafor
Horford

I'd roll with that with Smart and Rozier off the bench and Amir.   Start Smart at SF if Brown isn't ready.

This poll be [dang]ed though. Burn it.    I'd just keep Crowder too if they don't like it.

[playdream]

We need to stop this nonsense lol

[Who]

I think Colangelo will rate Avery above Smart or Crowder. So I went with Avery.

[Celtic_Pride777]

Great insights guys. Appreciate the responses in this thread...or at least most of them! 

[jambr380]

I voted Smart, but that's just because who I see Philly wanting in a one for one trade. However, I don't really know who I want to trade.

-Avery has the most value, especially to a contender, but it unlikely to improve much more. I think I would rather use him in a deal for a guaranteed all-star.
-Smart is an elite defender with every opportunity to improve with an increased role this year. It's very possible that injuries hurt his [shooting] development last year. With a better shot, he is an all-star.
-Rozier is turning a lot of heads and could possibly take Avery's spot in the future. I would hate to trade him now and not get proper value for him. If the trade was him, Young, Bentil, and a 2nd, that would be fine, but it's likely any trade including Rozier would need to include at least a first.

All I know is that I hope whoever we do trade ends up being the worst of the three.

[Future Celtics Owner]

Smart 4 Okafor would be a blessing for this team. We would be set with the CENTER position for a very long time.

[kozlodoev]

Don't understand why everyone is so eager to trade away Smart. He's already a better player than Bradley, as he's better defensively, and offensively he's better at everything except shooting. He's also younger with much more room to grow, and he's on a rookie deal for two more years.

That's why he sat on the bench all season, right?

[LarBrd33]

If I'm Philly, I would have no interest in Smart for Okafor.  I get that they need a "guard", but more importantly they need guards who can shoot.  They added Bayless (44% from three last year), Gerald Henderson (35% from three last year - decent backup) and Sergio Rodriguez (previously a 49%/35%/81% shooter last he played in the NBA).   I think they plan on having Ben SImmons be the primarily "point forward" controlling the ball.  He looks gifted as a distributor.  So adding shooters to that team is a priority.  I'm not sure it makes much sense for them to add a player who currently is a backup defensive role player who is one of the worst shooters in the league.  Smart's a pretty terrible fit for their offense.  They need guys who can spread the floor for the bigs and create space for Simmons.

Rozier's performance in Summer league is encouraging, but it's Summer League.  NO way would I trade Okafor for him if I was the 76ers.  Rozier was thought to be a 2nd round pick that Boston reached for at #16.  He's coming off a rookie season where he did basically nothing.   He should have next to no trade value at the moment.   Though again, his performance in D-League and Summer League are encouraging signs.  Anxious to see if he can contribute next year.  If he proves to be effective while playing in the NBA, his stock will rise. 

Obviously, Crowder would be someone Philly would have interest in.  Solid two-way player.   I can't see Boston making that move. 

Bradley likewise would be a nice get for Philly.  He's an all-NBA defender so he can guard the opposing team's point guards when Simmons runs point on offense.  He's also a more than adequate shooter so he'd fill a need for that team.   

Not sure any of these moves make sense for both teams.  I guess Bradley for Okafor would make sense, but Boston would have to be super confident in the other guards on the team.  Someone would need to step up and Boston currently relies on Bradley's defense and shooting.

[Ilikesports17]

If I'm Philly, I would have no interest in Smart for Okafor.  I get that they need a "guard", but more importantly they need guards who can shoot.  They added Bayless, Gerald Henderson and Sergio Rodriguez.   I think they plan on having Ben SImmons be the primarily "point forward" controlling the ball.  He looks gifted as a distributor.  So adding shooters to that team is a priority.  I'm not sure it makes much sense for them to add a player who currently is a backup defensive role player who is one of the worst shooters in the league.

Rozier's performance in Summer league is encouraging, but it's Summer League.  NO way would I trade Okafor for him if I was the 76ers.  Rozier was thought to be a 2nd round pick that Boston reached for at #16.  He's coming off a rookie season where he did basically nothing.   He should have next to no trade value at the moment.   Though again, his performance in D-League and Summer League are encouraging signs.  Anxious to see if he can contribute next year.  If he proves to be effective while playing in the NBA, his stock will rise. 

Obviously, Crowder would be someone Philly would have interest in.  Solid two-way player.   I can't see Boston making that move. 

Bradley likewise would be a nice get for Philly.  He's an all-NBA defender so he can guard the opposing team's point guards when Simmons runs point on offense.  He's also a more than adequate shooter so he'd fill a need for that team.   

Not sure any of these moves make sense for both teams.  I guess Bradley for Okafor would make sense, but Boston would have to be super confident in the other guards on the team.  Someone would need to step up and Boston currently relies on Bradley's defense and shooting.

Thats pretty much where I am. The way I look at it is this:
Rozier = not nearly enough. No from Philly
Smart = Sell low for us, not enough for them. No from Philly, extra assets to make it work would make it dumb for us
Bradley = sell high for us, perfect fit for Philly with Simmons handling the ball a ton ala GA. Philly says yes. I also am very high on Rozier and Marcus Smart and demetrius Jackson. I think we can replace AB's defense and leadership. My concern is can we replace his shooting. This years playoffs suggests we cannot.

[Bostoncelticsforlife7]

I would much rather give up Bradley and/or Rozier and some other assets for Okafor rather than Smart. Some people on here are hopping on the Rozier hype train and forget about what Smart did in the playoffs last year. If we could somehow trade for Okafor by giving up something like Bradley,Rozier, and Bentil, I would be ecstatic. He could help fill a lot of our needs