Okay back to my senses.... GSW + Durant can be beat

[tarheelsxxiii]

Didn't they sign Zaza today? They may never lose a game...

[Ogaju]

Thank you! This is very smart from you, I agree with every word here. We already have hard working players but the biggest irony is that "C's" doesn't have true C in squad, maybe we can finally land Cousins, that would be huge, so I'm rooting for that option. Boston have all assets for that trade and he is every day probably more and more ****ed up for being part of Sacramento. Cousins+Horford would be deadly IMO. IT4-Bradley-Crowder-Al-Boogie would be great and probably there would be some cap space to sign atleast one more player. After this Durant fiasco I'm hoping every day from now that there will be again Cousins rumours but this time to get him. Maybe IT4 will be back to his recruiting job and Cousins demand trade or Ainge will go hard and this time and get Boogie in green.

And here is your first TP. If we can get Boogie, and keep that core we immediately become contenders.

[MJohnnyboy]

Didn't they sign Zaza today? They may never lose a game...

Yeah seriously Zaza is essentially a Bogut doppelganger. Both play tight post defense, are great passers for bigs, have high IQ, and don't take Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. from anyone.

[hpantazo]

Replace Barnes with Durant and GS would have blown out Cleveland.  The only thing that can beat them are injuries.

Sure, maybe Durant suffers a season-ending injury!

...Oh wait, they're still a 73-win team.

This seems to forget that they gutted their team to get Durant in the first place...

What exactly did they gut? They swapped out Harrison Barnes and are losing Bogut, Speights, and Ezeli.

and gained Zaza already , who basically reproduces what Bogut did for them.

So in essence, they traded Barnes, and Bogut for Durant and Zaza, and dropped Speights and Ezeli.

[Clench123]

Thank you! This is very smart from you, I agree with every word here. We already have hard working players but the biggest irony is that "C's" doesn't have true C in squad, maybe we can finally land Cousins, that would be huge, so I'm rooting for that option. Boston have all assets for that trade and he is every day probably more and more ****ed up for being part of Sacramento. Cousins+Horford would be deadly IMO. IT4-Bradley-Crowder-Al-Boogie would be great and probably there would be some cap space to sign atleast one more player. After this Durant fiasco I'm hoping every day from now that there will be again Cousins rumours but this time to get him. Maybe IT4 will be back to his recruiting job and Cousins demand trade or Ainge will go hard and this time and get Boogie in green.

And here is your first TP. If we can get Boogie, and keep that core we immediately become contenders.

There is no way we get Boogie without giving up Smart or Crowder along with all the picks we have till 2019.  I would do it in a heartbeat but would Danny?  That's the question.

[Ogaju]

There is nothing gimicky about the GS offense. The only think that stops it is Curry having bad legs.

There is nothing gimicky about pick and rolls. There is nothing gimicky about spacing and taking efficient shots.

There is no "tried and tested formula" against them apart from hoping Curry gets hurt. You can't just choose to "dictate pace". You are only able to dictate pace if Curry lost his explosiveness and can't get open or penetrate and kick, making it hard for GS to get good looks. It also helps to get Green suspended for a game.

It is easy to tell yourself these is some strategy that will get it done but you will still lose to the talent if they are healthy. Or unless you out-talent them, which is hard at the moment. Throw your bigs out there and enjoy watching they get embarrassed on pick and rolls.

Still, every team can lose a series because there is so much chance in life. GS still needs to get a big to replace Bogut. Looks like Zaza will be part of that solution on the cheap.

Go ahead and give the last two championships asterisks then, because I will tell you now that in my opinion GSW would have lost to a full strength Cav team in 2015. So I see your Green suspension in 2016 and I raise you the injuries to Love and Irving in 2015.

[Ogaju]

Thank you! This is very smart from you, I agree with every word here. We already have hard working players but the biggest irony is that "C's" doesn't have true C in squad, maybe we can finally land Cousins, that would be huge, so I'm rooting for that option. Boston have all assets for that trade and he is every day probably more and more ****ed up for being part of Sacramento. Cousins+Horford would be deadly IMO. IT4-Bradley-Crowder-Al-Boogie would be great and probably there would be some cap space to sign atleast one more player. After this Durant fiasco I'm hoping every day from now that there will be again Cousins rumours but this time to get him. Maybe IT4 will be back to his recruiting job and Cousins demand trade or Ainge will go hard and this time and get Boogie in green.

And here is your first TP. If we can get Boogie, and keep that core we immediately become contenders.

There is no way we get Boogie without giving up Smart or Crowder along with all the picks we have till 2019.  I would do it in a heartbeat but would Danny?  That's the question.

Clench, give them Smart we need Crowder he is our leader. Give them Crowder and all them picks. We need Boogie !!!!

[BitterJim]

Replace Barnes with Durant and GS would have blown out Cleveland.  The only thing that can beat them are injuries.

Sure, maybe Durant suffers a season-ending injury!

...Oh wait, they're still a 73-win team.

This seems to forget that they gutted their team to get Durant in the first place...

What exactly did they gut? They swapped out Harrison Barnes and are losing Bogut, Speights, and Ezeli.

and gained Zaza already , who basically reproduces what Bogut did for them.

So in essence, they traded Barnes, and Bogut for Durant and Zaza, and dropped Speights and Ezeli.

Zaza won't be the anchor that Bogut was, but he gives at least 90% of what Bogut dod.  Great signing by GSW

[Clench123]

Thank you! This is very smart from you, I agree with every word here. We already have hard working players but the biggest irony is that "C's" doesn't have true C in squad, maybe we can finally land Cousins, that would be huge, so I'm rooting for that option. Boston have all assets for that trade and he is every day probably more and more ****ed up for being part of Sacramento. Cousins+Horford would be deadly IMO. IT4-Bradley-Crowder-Al-Boogie would be great and probably there would be some cap space to sign atleast one more player. After this Durant fiasco I'm hoping every day from now that there will be again Cousins rumours but this time to get him. Maybe IT4 will be back to his recruiting job and Cousins demand trade or Ainge will go hard and this time and get Boogie in green.

And here is your first TP. If we can get Boogie, and keep that core we immediately become contenders.

There is no way we get Boogie without giving up Smart or Crowder along with all the picks we have till 2019.  I would do it in a heartbeat but would Danny?  That's the question.

Clench, give them Smart we need Crowder he is our leader. Give them Crowder and all them picks. We need Boogie !!!!

Exactly.  I would.

[guava_wrench]

There is nothing gimicky about the GS offense. The only think that stops it is Curry having bad legs.

There is nothing gimicky about pick and rolls. There is nothing gimicky about spacing and taking efficient shots.

There is no "tried and tested formula" against them apart from hoping Curry gets hurt. You can't just choose to "dictate pace". You are only able to dictate pace if Curry lost his explosiveness and can't get open or penetrate and kick, making it hard for GS to get good looks. It also helps to get Green suspended for a game.

It is easy to tell yourself these is some strategy that will get it done but you will still lose to the talent if they are healthy. Or unless you out-talent them, which is hard at the moment. Throw your bigs out there and enjoy watching they get embarrassed on pick and rolls.

Still, every team can lose a series because there is so much chance in life. GS still needs to get a big to replace Bogut. Looks like Zaza will be part of that solution on the cheap.

Go ahead and give the last two championships asterisks then, because I will tell you now that in my opinion GSW would have lost to a full strength Cav team in 2015. So I see your Green suspension in 2016 and I raise you the injuries to Love and Irving in 2015.

You completely missed the point.

The GS system is fine. The Cavs can beat them because the Cavs also have great talent. It isn't due to problem with the GS system. The vulnerability isn't the system. It is the fact that it requires Curry's quickness and he just isn't as solid as Lebron. Lebron is less vulnerable to having his game marginalized by injury. Curry is very vulnerable. The same is true for Kyrie. Give him bad wheels and his game will deteriorate. But the Cavs are more reliant on KJ than Kyrie.

Asterisks are irrelevant to my comment. My comment is about the efficacy of the system. The system is fine.

[angryguy77]

This reminiscent of the reasonings the heat were going to fail.

We all know how that turned out

My post said nothing about them failing.... it is just my opinion on how to beat them. If I had to come up with ways to beat them I believe that is a compliment to them, don't you think?

It is either that or I succumb to my initial defeatist post which was 'why have a season at all' lol.

I know you didn't say they would, but many did say the same thing about Miami.


GS is going to run everyone over. The league is going to be a waste next year.

[loco_91]

GSW+Durant can be beat in a game. I doubt they can be beaten in a series.

[beantownboy171]

They just aren't a balanced team.

I don't think we're ready to beat them. But they can be beat.

[tarheelsxxiii]

They just aren't a balanced team.

I don't think we're ready to beat them. But they can be beat.

By who, Jesus of Nazareth? They just signed Zaza Pachulia, too. They have all bases covered now.

[CelticGuardian]

Replace Barnes with Durant and GS would have blown out Cleveland.  The only thing that can beat them are injuries.

Sure, maybe Durant suffers a season-ending injury!

...Oh wait, they're still a 73-win team.

This seems to forget that they gutted their team to get Durant in the first place...

They lost pretty insignificant pieces when it comes to the teams identity.... Barnes? ha! Ezeli? ha! Bogut? They already got Zaza...

the Team took no step backwards