Confirmed FA signings thread

[Ogaju]

Ezeli to the Blazers. Interesting addition.

Any word on how much they paid? Thats what interests me.

Marc J. Spears ‏@MarcJSpearsESPN  3m3 minutes ago
Festus Ezeli's Blazers deal is actually $7.4 million the first year with a team option of $7.33 million in the second year, a source said.

Great deal with the rising cap. That's chump change for a shotblocker like Ezeli.

Great signing. Cs could have done that.

Why we didn't jump on that is beyond me. If we waived rights to Sully and Zeller, I think we would've been close to being able to do this deal while keeping Amir and JJ.

Not that I'm a fan of Zeller, Sully, Amir, or Swedish meatballs, but Ezeli blows, imo.  Dude doesn't know how to play basketball, lol . We would have been better off just signing Daniel Ochefu, imo.  Ugh.

Who the hell is Daniel Ochefu?

EDIT: Oh yeah. The guy from Villanova. He went undrafted. He doesn't have what it takes to play in the league nevermind be better than Ezeli.

Beat LA is just messing around as usual, probably because Ochefu and Ezeli share the same ethnicity.

I don't even know what to say to that.  Wow .  I like Ochefu because of his work ethic, motor, intelligence, rebounding, post play, defense, and passing ability.  He anchored Villanova's defense last year.  It has nothing to do with the fact that they have African last names, especially because Ochefu was born in Baltimore, lol, although he did live in Nigeria with his family for a time.  I also like that he grew up playing soccer, but thank you for your ignorant comment (sarcasm).  Wow.

For someone who does not know what to say you sure did say a lot. (sarcasm). Perhaps you should have stopped at 'I don't even know what to say about that'  LOL

[MJohnnyboy]

From Woj:

Sources: Portland RFA Allen Crabbe has signed a four-year, $75M offer sheet with the Brooklyn Nets. Bonuses could reach $83M.

This was reported a few days back I think but never confirmed and I believe the $ amount was a bit lower.  I haven't seen much of Crabbe outside of the playoffs but I get the impression that if you have the chance to match a ~$20 mill per year contract, you have to politely decline.  Hate to see Brooklyn probably get a bit better but that's also a big whack at their cap flexibility going forward.

It had been reported that Crabbe had signed an offer sheet last week with the Nets but it was refuted. Now it's been confirmed by Woj, a much more reliable source.

[Beat LA]

Ezeli to the Blazers. Interesting addition.

Any word on how much they paid? Thats what interests me.

Marc J. Spears ‏@MarcJSpearsESPN  3m3 minutes ago
Festus Ezeli's Blazers deal is actually $7.4 million the first year with a team option of $7.33 million in the second year, a source said.

Great deal with the rising cap. That's chump change for a shotblocker like Ezeli.

Great signing. Cs could have done that.

Why we didn't jump on that is beyond me. If we waived rights to Sully and Zeller, I think we would've been close to being able to do this deal while keeping Amir and JJ.

Not that I'm a fan of Zeller, Sully, Amir, or Swedish meatballs, but Ezeli blows, imo.  Dude doesn't know how to play basketball, lol . We would have been better off just signing Daniel Ochefu, imo.  Ugh.

Who the hell is Daniel Ochefu?

EDIT: Oh yeah. The guy from Villanova. He went undrafted. He doesn't have what it takes to play in the league nevermind be better than Ezeli.

Why do you say that?  The only thing Ezeli has on Ochefu is athleticism.

I think Ezeli also has the proof that he can actually make a team in the NBA, play for an NBA team and excel in a role as a player in the NBA. Ochefu just signed a contract for a guaranteed $50,000. That and the little I saw of him in the tournament gives me no confidence he will be an NBA player.

I still don't see how any of that should have precluded us from signing him.  Do we not need size?  Do we not still struggle to rebound?  Wouldn't you like a team-first center who can defend, play in the post, and pass?  Ezeli can do none of that.  All he has, offensively, outside of dunks, is a right handed jump hook with which he is only mildly successful.  He's an energy player - not one with skill, imo.  Did you miss the finals, lol?

How dare you?  How dare you suggest a reasonable alternative that will save the team money?  How dare you suggest an alternative that is a winner and fits what we need?  You need to be permanently banned from posting online with thoughts like that!

Thanks, TP . I like Tonye Jekiri, as well, but I guess that that's only because he's African, right (sarcasm)?  Give me a break .

[Celts Fan 508]

Ezeli to the Blazers. Interesting addition.

Any word on how much they paid? Thats what interests me.

Marc J. Spears ‏@MarcJSpearsESPN  3m3 minutes ago
Festus Ezeli's Blazers deal is actually $7.4 million the first year with a team option of $7.33 million in the second year, a source said.

Great deal with the rising cap. That's chump change for a shotblocker like Ezeli.

Great signing. Cs could have done that.

Why we didn't jump on that is beyond me. If we waived rights to Sully and Zeller, I think we would've been close to being able to do this deal while keeping Amir and JJ.

Not that I'm a fan of Zeller, Sully, Amir, or Swedish meatballs, but Ezeli blows, imo.  Dude doesn't know how to play basketball, lol . We would have been better off just signing Daniel Ochefu, imo.  Ugh.

Who the hell is Daniel Ochefu?

EDIT: Oh yeah. The guy from Villanova. He went undrafted. He doesn't have what it takes to play in the league nevermind be better than Ezeli.

Why do you say that?  The only thing Ezeli has on Ochefu is athleticism.

I think Ezeli also has the proof that he can actually make a team in the NBA, play for an NBA team and excel in a role as a player in the NBA. Ochefu just signed a contract for a guaranteed $50,000. That and the little I saw of him in the tournament gives me no confidence he will be an NBA player.

I still don't see how any of that should have precluded us from signing him.  Do we not need size?  Do we not still struggle to rebound?  Wouldn't you like a team-first center who can defend, play in the post, and pass?  Ezeli can do none of that.  All he has, offensively, outside of dunks, is a right handed jump hook with which he is only mildly successful.  He's an energy player - not one with skill, imo.  Did you miss the finals, lol?

Thanks, TP . I like Tonye Jekiri, as well, but I guess that that's only because he's African, right (sarcasm)?  Give me a break .

How dare you?  How dare you suggest a reasonable alternative that will save the team money?  How dare you suggest an alternative that is a winner and fits what we need?  You need to be permanently banned from posting online with thoughts like that!

Stop being African then!!!

[Beat LA]

Ezeli to the Blazers. Interesting addition.

Any word on how much they paid? Thats what interests me.

Marc J. Spears ‏@MarcJSpearsESPN  3m3 minutes ago
Festus Ezeli's Blazers deal is actually $7.4 million the first year with a team option of $7.33 million in the second year, a source said.

Great deal with the rising cap. That's chump change for a shotblocker like Ezeli.

Great signing. Cs could have done that.

Why we didn't jump on that is beyond me. If we waived rights to Sully and Zeller, I think we would've been close to being able to do this deal while keeping Amir and JJ.

Not that I'm a fan of Zeller, Sully, Amir, or Swedish meatballs, but Ezeli blows, imo.  Dude doesn't know how to play basketball, lol . We would have been better off just signing Daniel Ochefu, imo.  Ugh.

Who the hell is Daniel Ochefu?

EDIT: Oh yeah. The guy from Villanova. He went undrafted. He doesn't have what it takes to play in the league nevermind be better than Ezeli.

Why do you say that?  The only thing Ezeli has on Ochefu is athleticism.

I think Ezeli also has the proof that he can actually make a team in the NBA, play for an NBA team and excel in a role as a player in the NBA. Ochefu just signed a contract for a guaranteed $50,000. That and the little I saw of him in the tournament gives me no confidence he will be an NBA player.

I still don't see how any of that should have precluded us from signing him.  Do we not need size?  Do we not still struggle to rebound?  Wouldn't you like a team-first center who can defend, play in the post, and pass?  Ezeli can do none of that.  All he has, offensively, outside of dunks, is a right handed jump hook with which he is only mildly successful.  He's an energy player - not one with skill, imo.  Did you miss the finals, lol?

Saw the Finals and a whole bunch of GSW nationally televised games. Saw some limited games in the tourney of Ochefu. Ochefu is not better than Ezeli, IMO. If he was so good someone would have given him a second round fully guaranteed contract. He barely got anything from the Wizards.

Listen, I get it after previous conversations, you love college players and think raw college players are better than veteran role players. I and most GMs completely disagree with that. let's end the convo there.

Actually I don't, but thanks for grasping the gist of our conversations (sarcasm) . You still haven't answered the question as to why we shouldn't bring guys like him and Tonye Jekiri to camp, btw, which is now impossible given that they've both recently been added to the summer league squads of the Wizards and Rockets, respectively, but whatever.  Just because someone goes undrafted doesn't mean that they can't play.  Just look at Wesley Matthews.  A lot of talent was passed over on draft night, imo, in the form of GP II, Sheldon McClellan, Danuel House, and Jarrod Uthoff, etc., and it didn't have so much to do with the guys not being good enough, it had to do with the fact that they didn't want to get stashed, which is perfectly understandable, imo.  Geesh. 

Here's Jekiri's 20 point, 12 rebound performance against Jakob Poeltl from earlier this year, if you're at all interested, which I sincerely doubt -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2yIQkCR2oY

[Beat LA]

Ezeli to the Blazers. Interesting addition.

Any word on how much they paid? Thats what interests me.

Marc J. Spears ‏@MarcJSpearsESPN  3m3 minutes ago
Festus Ezeli's Blazers deal is actually $7.4 million the first year with a team option of $7.33 million in the second year, a source said.

Great deal with the rising cap. That's chump change for a shotblocker like Ezeli.

Great signing. Cs could have done that.

Why we didn't jump on that is beyond me. If we waived rights to Sully and Zeller, I think we would've been close to being able to do this deal while keeping Amir and JJ.

Not that I'm a fan of Zeller, Sully, Amir, or Swedish meatballs, but Ezeli blows, imo.  Dude doesn't know how to play basketball, lol . We would have been better off just signing Daniel Ochefu, imo.  Ugh.

Who the hell is Daniel Ochefu?

EDIT: Oh yeah. The guy from Villanova. He went undrafted. He doesn't have what it takes to play in the league nevermind be better than Ezeli.

Why do you say that?  The only thing Ezeli has on Ochefu is athleticism.

I think Ezeli also has the proof that he can actually make a team in the NBA, play for an NBA team and excel in a role as a player in the NBA. Ochefu just signed a contract for a guaranteed $50,000. That and the little I saw of him in the tournament gives me no confidence he will be an NBA player.

I still don't see how any of that should have precluded us from signing him.  Do we not need size?  Do we not still struggle to rebound?  Wouldn't you like a team-first center who can defend, play in the post, and pass?  Ezeli can do none of that.  All he has, offensively, outside of dunks, is a right handed jump hook with which he is only mildly successful.  He's an energy player - not one with skill, imo.  Did you miss the finals, lol?

How dare you?  How dare you suggest a reasonable alternative that will save the team money?  How dare you suggest an alternative that is a winner and fits what we need?  You need to be permanently banned from posting online with thoughts like that!

Thanks, TP . I like Tonye Jekiri, as well, but I guess that that's only because he's African, right (sarcasm)?  Give me a break .

Stop being African then!!!

Ahahaha, thanks, again, although I think that that's impossible, in terms of evolution , and another TP for you when the clock let's me do so.  Sorry about messing up the quote, btw.  Ugh.  Hopefully I've fixed it.

[saltlover]

Ezeli to the Blazers. Interesting addition.

Any word on how much they paid? Thats what interests me.

Marc J. Spears ‏@MarcJSpearsESPN  3m3 minutes ago
Festus Ezeli's Blazers deal is actually $7.4 million the first year with a team option of $7.33 million in the second year, a source said.

Great deal with the rising cap. That's chump change for a shotblocker like Ezeli.

Great signing. Cs could have done that.

Why we didn't jump on that is beyond me. If we waived rights to Sully and Zeller, I think we would've been close to being able to do this deal while keeping Amir and JJ.

Not that I'm a fan of Zeller, Sully, Amir, or Swedish meatballs, but Ezeli blows, imo.  Dude doesn't know how to play basketball, lol . We would have been better off just signing Daniel Ochefu, imo.  Ugh.

Who the hell is Daniel Ochefu?

EDIT: Oh yeah. The guy from Villanova. He went undrafted. He doesn't have what it takes to play in the league nevermind be better than Ezeli.

Why do you say that?  The only thing Ezeli has on Ochefu is athleticism.

I think Ezeli also has the proof that he can actually make a team in the NBA, play for an NBA team and excel in a role as a player in the NBA. Ochefu just signed a contract for a guaranteed $50,000. That and the little I saw of him in the tournament gives me no confidence he will be an NBA player.

I still don't see how any of that should have precluded us from signing him.  Do we not need size?  Do we not still struggle to rebound?  Wouldn't you like a team-first center who can defend, play in the post, and pass?  Ezeli can do none of that.  All he has, offensively, outside of dunks, is a right handed jump hook with which he is only mildly successful.  He's an energy player - not one with skill, imo.  Did you miss the finals, lol?

Saw the Finals and a whole bunch of GSW nationally televised games. Saw some limited games in the tourney of Ochefu. Ochefu is not better than Ezeli, IMO. If he was so good someone would have given him a second round fully guaranteed contract. He barely got anything from the Wizards.

Listen, I get it after previous conversations, you love college players and think raw college players are better than veteran role players. I and most GMs completely disagree with that. let's end the convo there.

Actually I don't, but thanks for grasping the gist of our conversations (sarcasm) . You still haven't answered the question as to why we shouldn't bring guys like him and Tonye Jekiri to camp, btw, which is now impossible given that they've both recently been added to the summer league squads of the Wizards and Rockets, respectively, but whatever.  Just because someone goes undrafted doesn't mean that they can't play.  Just look at Wesley Matthews.  A lot of talent was passed over on draft night, imo, in the form of GP II, Sheldon McClellan, Danuel House, and Jarrod Uthoff, etc., and it didn't have so much to do with the guys not being good enough, it had to do with the fact that they didn't want to get stashed, which is perfectly understandable, imo.  Geesh. 

Here's Jekiri's 20 point, 12 rebound performance against Jakob Poeltl from earlier this year, if you're at all interested, which I sincerely doubt -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2yIQkCR2oY

Why, if you're a rookie free agent, would you sign with the Celtics on a largely non-guaranteed deal?.  They have six picks, after trading away two, and might only find room for two of them on the roster this year, not to mention the two picks from prior years just hanging out waiting for a contract.  If I were an agent of a rookie free agent, I'd keep my client away from the Celtics the next few years, unless they offer a fully guaranteed contract in year 1 for more than the minimum.

Ochefu has a legitimate chance to make the Wizards.  He'd have zero chance here.

[Beat LA]

Ezeli to the Blazers. Interesting addition.

Any word on how much they paid? Thats what interests me.

Marc J. Spears ‏@MarcJSpearsESPN  3m3 minutes ago
Festus Ezeli's Blazers deal is actually $7.4 million the first year with a team option of $7.33 million in the second year, a source said.

Great deal with the rising cap. That's chump change for a shotblocker like Ezeli.

Great signing. Cs could have done that.

Why we didn't jump on that is beyond me. If we waived rights to Sully and Zeller, I think we would've been close to being able to do this deal while keeping Amir and JJ.

Not that I'm a fan of Zeller, Sully, Amir, or Swedish meatballs, but Ezeli blows, imo.  Dude doesn't know how to play basketball, lol . We would have been better off just signing Daniel Ochefu, imo.  Ugh.

Who the hell is Daniel Ochefu?

EDIT: Oh yeah. The guy from Villanova. He went undrafted. He doesn't have what it takes to play in the league nevermind be better than Ezeli.

Beat LA is just messing around as usual, probably because Ochefu and Ezeli share the same ethnicity.

I don't even know what to say to that.  Wow .  I like Ochefu because of his work ethic, motor, intelligence, rebounding, post play, defense, and passing ability.  He anchored Villanova's defense last year.  It has nothing to do with the fact that they have African last names, especially because Ochefu was born in Baltimore, lol, although he did live in Nigeria with his family for a time.  I also like that he grew up playing soccer, but thank you for your ignorant comment (sarcasm).  Wow.

For someone who does not know what to say you sure did say a lot. (sarcasm). Perhaps you should have stopped at 'I don't even know what to say about that'  LOL

Strike 2.

[tarheelsxxiii]

Brooklyn has definitely improved. Not sure they're a bottom 5 team anymore.

[Beat LA]

Ezeli to the Blazers. Interesting addition.

Any word on how much they paid? Thats what interests me.

Marc J. Spears ‏@MarcJSpearsESPN  3m3 minutes ago
Festus Ezeli's Blazers deal is actually $7.4 million the first year with a team option of $7.33 million in the second year, a source said.

Great deal with the rising cap. That's chump change for a shotblocker like Ezeli.

Great signing. Cs could have done that.

Why we didn't jump on that is beyond me. If we waived rights to Sully and Zeller, I think we would've been close to being able to do this deal while keeping Amir and JJ.

Not that I'm a fan of Zeller, Sully, Amir, or Swedish meatballs, but Ezeli blows, imo.  Dude doesn't know how to play basketball, lol . We would have been better off just signing Daniel Ochefu, imo.  Ugh.

Who the hell is Daniel Ochefu?

EDIT: Oh yeah. The guy from Villanova. He went undrafted. He doesn't have what it takes to play in the league nevermind be better than Ezeli.

Why do you say that?  The only thing Ezeli has on Ochefu is athleticism.

I think Ezeli also has the proof that he can actually make a team in the NBA, play for an NBA team and excel in a role as a player in the NBA. Ochefu just signed a contract for a guaranteed $50,000. That and the little I saw of him in the tournament gives me no confidence he will be an NBA player.

I still don't see how any of that should have precluded us from signing him.  Do we not need size?  Do we not still struggle to rebound?  Wouldn't you like a team-first center who can defend, play in the post, and pass?  Ezeli can do none of that.  All he has, offensively, outside of dunks, is a right handed jump hook with which he is only mildly successful.  He's an energy player - not one with skill, imo.  Did you miss the finals, lol?

Saw the Finals and a whole bunch of GSW nationally televised games. Saw some limited games in the tourney of Ochefu. Ochefu is not better than Ezeli, IMO. If he was so good someone would have given him a second round fully guaranteed contract. He barely got anything from the Wizards.

Listen, I get it after previous conversations, you love college players and think raw college players are better than veteran role players. I and most GMs completely disagree with that. let's end the convo there.

Actually I don't, but thanks for grasping the gist of our conversations (sarcasm) . You still haven't answered the question as to why we shouldn't bring guys like him and Tonye Jekiri to camp, btw, which is now impossible given that they've both recently been added to the summer league squads of the Wizards and Rockets, respectively, but whatever.  Just because someone goes undrafted doesn't mean that they can't play.  Just look at Wesley Matthews.  A lot of talent was passed over on draft night, imo, in the form of GP II, Sheldon McClellan, Danuel House, and Jarrod Uthoff, etc., and it didn't have so much to do with the guys not being good enough, it had to do with the fact that they didn't want to get stashed, which is perfectly understandable, imo.  Geesh. 

Here's Jekiri's 20 point, 12 rebound performance against Jakob Poeltl from earlier this year, if you're at all interested, which I sincerely doubt -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2yIQkCR2oY

Why, if you're a rookie free agent, would you sign with the Celtics on a largely non-guaranteed deal?.  They have six picks, after trading away two, and might only find room for two of them on the roster this year, not to mention the two picks from prior years just hanging out waiting for a contract.  If I were an agent of a rookie free agent, I'd keep my client away from the Celtics the next few years, unless they offer a fully guaranteed contract in year 1 for more than the minimum.

Ochefu has a legitimate chance to make the Wizards.  He'd have zero chance here.

Even with our lack of depth at the 4/5 and the fact that Ainge just said that we need to add rebounding, iirc?  It isn't so much about the contract as it is about potentially addressing a need.  Both Jekiri and Ochefu are better rebounders and defensive players than Zeller and don't have weight and attitude problems like Sullinger.  Plus, doesn't Horford want to play the 4?  I was just thinking outside of the box.  Little did I know that these suggestions would cause such an uproar, lol . Yeesh.

[saltlover]

Brooklyn has definitely improved. Not sure they're a bottom 5 team anymore.

I'm pretty sure they are.  Certainly they need Portland and Miami to pass on Crabbe and Johnson to even begin having this conversation.  Neither is a given. Otherwise they've swapped Young for Booker (downgrade) and added Lim (nice, but not someone who wins you an extra 8 games).

[saltlover]

Ezeli to the Blazers. Interesting addition.

Any word on how much they paid? Thats what interests me.

Marc J. Spears ‏@MarcJSpearsESPN  3m3 minutes ago
Festus Ezeli's Blazers deal is actually $7.4 million the first year with a team option of $7.33 million in the second year, a source said.

Great deal with the rising cap. That's chump change for a shotblocker like Ezeli.

Great signing. Cs could have done that.

Why we didn't jump on that is beyond me. If we waived rights to Sully and Zeller, I think we would've been close to being able to do this deal while keeping Amir and JJ.

Not that I'm a fan of Zeller, Sully, Amir, or Swedish meatballs, but Ezeli blows, imo.  Dude doesn't know how to play basketball, lol . We would have been better off just signing Daniel Ochefu, imo.  Ugh.

Who the hell is Daniel Ochefu?

EDIT: Oh yeah. The guy from Villanova. He went undrafted. He doesn't have what it takes to play in the league nevermind be better than Ezeli.

Why do you say that?  The only thing Ezeli has on Ochefu is athleticism.

I think Ezeli also has the proof that he can actually make a team in the NBA, play for an NBA team and excel in a role as a player in the NBA. Ochefu just signed a contract for a guaranteed $50,000. That and the little I saw of him in the tournament gives me no confidence he will be an NBA player.

I still don't see how any of that should have precluded us from signing him.  Do we not need size?  Do we not still struggle to rebound?  Wouldn't you like a team-first center who can defend, play in the post, and pass?  Ezeli can do none of that.  All he has, offensively, outside of dunks, is a right handed jump hook with which he is only mildly successful.  He's an energy player - not one with skill, imo.  Did you miss the finals, lol?

Saw the Finals and a whole bunch of GSW nationally televised games. Saw some limited games in the tourney of Ochefu. Ochefu is not better than Ezeli, IMO. If he was so good someone would have given him a second round fully guaranteed contract. He barely got anything from the Wizards.

Listen, I get it after previous conversations, you love college players and think raw college players are better than veteran role players. I and most GMs completely disagree with that. let's end the convo there.

Actually I don't, but thanks for grasping the gist of our conversations (sarcasm) . You still haven't answered the question as to why we shouldn't bring guys like him and Tonye Jekiri to camp, btw, which is now impossible given that they've both recently been added to the summer league squads of the Wizards and Rockets, respectively, but whatever.  Just because someone goes undrafted doesn't mean that they can't play.  Just look at Wesley Matthews.  A lot of talent was passed over on draft night, imo, in the form of GP II, Sheldon McClellan, Danuel House, and Jarrod Uthoff, etc., and it didn't have so much to do with the guys not being good enough, it had to do with the fact that they didn't want to get stashed, which is perfectly understandable, imo.  Geesh. 

Here's Jekiri's 20 point, 12 rebound performance against Jakob Poeltl from earlier this year, if you're at all interested, which I sincerely doubt -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2yIQkCR2oY

Why, if you're a rookie free agent, would you sign with the Celtics on a largely non-guaranteed deal?.  They have six picks, after trading away two, and might only find room for two of them on the roster this year, not to mention the two picks from prior years just hanging out waiting for a contract.  If I were an agent of a rookie free agent, I'd keep my client away from the Celtics the next few years, unless they offer a fully guaranteed contract in year 1 for more than the minimum.

Ochefu has a legitimate chance to make the Wizards.  He'd have zero chance here.

Even with our lack of depth at the 4/5 and the fact that Ainge just said that we need to add rebounding, iirc?  It isn't so much about the contract as it is about potentially addressing a need.  Both Jekiri and Ochefu are better rebounders and defensive players than Zeller and don't have weight and attitude problems like Sullinger.  Plus, doesn't Horford want to play the 4?  I was just thinking outside of the box.  Little did I know that these suggestions would cause such an uproar, lol . Yeesh.

Yes, even with that.  Teams generally don't waive guaranteed contracts to make room for undrafted free agents, which is likely what would need to be done to retain any of them.  Agents know this, so you steer your clients to teams without too many guaranteed deals.  Washington currently has 14.

[Beat LA]

Ezeli to the Blazers. Interesting addition.

Any word on how much they paid? Thats what interests me.

Marc J. Spears ‏@MarcJSpearsESPN  3m3 minutes ago
Festus Ezeli's Blazers deal is actually $7.4 million the first year with a team option of $7.33 million in the second year, a source said.

Great deal with the rising cap. That's chump change for a shotblocker like Ezeli.

Great signing. Cs could have done that.

Why we didn't jump on that is beyond me. If we waived rights to Sully and Zeller, I think we would've been close to being able to do this deal while keeping Amir and JJ.

Not that I'm a fan of Zeller, Sully, Amir, or Swedish meatballs, but Ezeli blows, imo.  Dude doesn't know how to play basketball, lol . We would have been better off just signing Daniel Ochefu, imo.  Ugh.

Who the hell is Daniel Ochefu?

EDIT: Oh yeah. The guy from Villanova. He went undrafted. He doesn't have what it takes to play in the league nevermind be better than Ezeli.

Why do you say that?  The only thing Ezeli has on Ochefu is athleticism.

I think Ezeli also has the proof that he can actually make a team in the NBA, play for an NBA team and excel in a role as a player in the NBA. Ochefu just signed a contract for a guaranteed $50,000. That and the little I saw of him in the tournament gives me no confidence he will be an NBA player.

I still don't see how any of that should have precluded us from signing him.  Do we not need size?  Do we not still struggle to rebound?  Wouldn't you like a team-first center who can defend, play in the post, and pass?  Ezeli can do none of that.  All he has, offensively, outside of dunks, is a right handed jump hook with which he is only mildly successful.  He's an energy player - not one with skill, imo.  Did you miss the finals, lol?

Saw the Finals and a whole bunch of GSW nationally televised games. Saw some limited games in the tourney of Ochefu. Ochefu is not better than Ezeli, IMO. If he was so good someone would have given him a second round fully guaranteed contract. He barely got anything from the Wizards.

Listen, I get it after previous conversations, you love college players and think raw college players are better than veteran role players. I and most GMs completely disagree with that. let's end the convo there.

Actually I don't, but thanks for grasping the gist of our conversations (sarcasm) . You still haven't answered the question as to why we shouldn't bring guys like him and Tonye Jekiri to camp, btw, which is now impossible given that they've both recently been added to the summer league squads of the Wizards and Rockets, respectively, but whatever.  Just because someone goes undrafted doesn't mean that they can't play.  Just look at Wesley Matthews.  A lot of talent was passed over on draft night, imo, in the form of GP II, Sheldon McClellan, Danuel House, and Jarrod Uthoff, etc., and it didn't have so much to do with the guys not being good enough, it had to do with the fact that they didn't want to get stashed, which is perfectly understandable, imo.  Geesh. 

Here's Jekiri's 20 point, 12 rebound performance against Jakob Poeltl from earlier this year, if you're at all interested, which I sincerely doubt -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2yIQkCR2oY

Why, if you're a rookie free agent, would you sign with the Celtics on a largely non-guaranteed deal?.  They have six picks, after trading away two, and might only find room for two of them on the roster this year, not to mention the two picks from prior years just hanging out waiting for a contract.  If I were an agent of a rookie free agent, I'd keep my client away from the Celtics the next few years, unless they offer a fully guaranteed contract in year 1 for more than the minimum.

Ochefu has a legitimate chance to make the Wizards.  He'd have zero chance here.

Even with our lack of depth at the 4/5 and the fact that Ainge just said that we need to add rebounding, iirc?  It isn't so much about the contract as it is about potentially addressing a need.  Both Jekiri and Ochefu are better rebounders and defensive players than Zeller and don't have weight and attitude problems like Sullinger.  Plus, doesn't Horford want to play the 4?  I was just thinking outside of the box.  Little did I know that these suggestions would cause such an uproar, lol . Yeesh.

Yes, even with that.  Teams generally don't waive guaranteed contracts to make room for undrafted free agents, which is likely what would need to be done to retain any of them.  Agents know this, so you steer your clients to teams without too many guaranteed deals.  Washington currently has 14.

Okay, but Sullinger and Zeller are hardly world beaters, to begin with.  It's not so much that I believe that every young player is better than nba veterans, lol, and in this particular case, it's not about how good Jekiri and Ochefu are as opposed to how bad Zeller and Sully have been.  It doesn't matter, anyway, because we can't sign either of said undrafted centers, now, but I'd much rather have those guys than James Young, lol .

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Ezeli to the Blazers. Interesting addition.

Any word on how much they paid? Thats what interests me.

Marc J. Spears ‏@MarcJSpearsESPN  3m3 minutes ago
Festus Ezeli's Blazers deal is actually $7.4 million the first year with a team option of $7.33 million in the second year, a source said.

Great deal with the rising cap. That's chump change for a shotblocker like Ezeli.

Great signing. Cs could have done that.

Why we didn't jump on that is beyond me. If we waived rights to Sully and Zeller, I think we would've been close to being able to do this deal while keeping Amir and JJ.

Not that I'm a fan of Zeller, Sully, Amir, or Swedish meatballs, but Ezeli blows, imo.  Dude doesn't know how to play basketball, lol . We would have been better off just signing Daniel Ochefu, imo.  Ugh.

Who the hell is Daniel Ochefu?

EDIT: Oh yeah. The guy from Villanova. He went undrafted. He doesn't have what it takes to play in the league nevermind be better than Ezeli.

Why do you say that?  The only thing Ezeli has on Ochefu is athleticism.

I think Ezeli also has the proof that he can actually make a team in the NBA, play for an NBA team and excel in a role as a player in the NBA. Ochefu just signed a contract for a guaranteed $50,000. That and the little I saw of him in the tournament gives me no confidence he will be an NBA player.

I still don't see how any of that should have precluded us from signing him.  Do we not need size?  Do we not still struggle to rebound?  Wouldn't you like a team-first center who can defend, play in the post, and pass?  Ezeli can do none of that.  All he has, offensively, outside of dunks, is a right handed jump hook with which he is only mildly successful.  He's an energy player - not one with skill, imo.  Did you miss the finals, lol?

Do we need a guy who can defend, play in the post, rebound and pass? Sure.

Do I want a guy who has proven the ability to do that at the NBA level? Absolutely. Considering no one has even sniffed at Sully, I'd offer him 7-9 M this year with a team option for 10 next year knowing that's probably the best he's gonna get, and knowing he offers you exactly what you just asked for, except he's proven the ability to do that at the NBA level and he's only 24.

Much rather have Sully on a reasonable short deal than some undrafted rookie you expect to make an impact on a team with like 10 recent draftees.

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Ezeli to the Blazers. Interesting addition.

Any word on how much they paid? Thats what interests me.

Marc J. Spears ‏@MarcJSpearsESPN  3m3 minutes ago
Festus Ezeli's Blazers deal is actually $7.4 million the first year with a team option of $7.33 million in the second year, a source said.

Great deal with the rising cap. That's chump change for a shotblocker like Ezeli.

Great signing. Cs could have done that.

Why we didn't jump on that is beyond me. If we waived rights to Sully and Zeller, I think we would've been close to being able to do this deal while keeping Amir and JJ.

Not that I'm a fan of Zeller, Sully, Amir, or Swedish meatballs, but Ezeli blows, imo.  Dude doesn't know how to play basketball, lol . We would have been better off just signing Daniel Ochefu, imo.  Ugh.

Who the hell is Daniel Ochefu?

EDIT: Oh yeah. The guy from Villanova. He went undrafted. He doesn't have what it takes to play in the league nevermind be better than Ezeli.

Why do you say that?  The only thing Ezeli has on Ochefu is athleticism.

I think Ezeli also has the proof that he can actually make a team in the NBA, play for an NBA team and excel in a role as a player in the NBA. Ochefu just signed a contract for a guaranteed $50,000. That and the little I saw of him in the tournament gives me no confidence he will be an NBA player.

I still don't see how any of that should have precluded us from signing him.  Do we not need size?  Do we not still struggle to rebound?  Wouldn't you like a team-first center who can defend, play in the post, and pass?  Ezeli can do none of that.  All he has, offensively, outside of dunks, is a right handed jump hook with which he is only mildly successful.  He's an energy player - not one with skill, imo.  Did you miss the finals, lol?

Do we need a guy who can defend, play in the post, rebound and pass? Sure.

Do I want a guy who has proven the ability to do that at the NBA level? Absolutely. Considering no one has even sniffed at Sully, I'd offer him 7-9 M this year with a team option for 10 next year knowing that's probably the best he's gonna get, and knowing he offers you exactly what you just asked for, except he's proven the ability to do that at the NBA level and he's only 24.

Much rather have Sully on a reasonable short deal than some undrafted rookie you expect to make an impact on a team with like 10 recent draftees.

I think people are forgetting that at one time, every player in the NBA was an unproven commodity, and besides, I really don't view guys like Jekiri and Ochefu as bigger risks than Sully, who has proven that he cannot stay in shape, is a poor defender which is only exasperated by the weight problems, no longer scores inside, and is a slow, undersized, and nonathletic power forward.  I wouldn't waste another dime on him, myself, because as you said, you know what you're getting with Sully, and Zeller, as well, and we can and should do better than those two guys, not to mention the fact that Jekiri and Ochefu, combined, likely wouldn't have cost you half of what you'd resign Sullinger, for, alone, so I don't see any risk at all with either undrafted guy.  Obviously we can't get them, now, but say that we did.  Look, if they bust, they bust, but at least it won't cost the team nearly as much on the court or in terms of payroll as opposed to a guy like Sullinger, but I guess that I should stop thinking outside of the box, because clearly, no one wants to hear any of that, lol.  Sigh.