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Re: I won't get fooled again
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2016, 02:01:28 PM »

Offline dannyboy35

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As dissapointed people can be with Okynyk, he should top out as a excellent 1st off the bench big man. He has a lot of value. He's not a star but he's a guy a lot of teams would love to have I think.

Re: I won't get fooled again
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2016, 02:03:05 PM »

Offline CoachBo

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There is a chance we get Durant and/or Horford but it's low. You should expect that we don't do much in free agency and hope that we get something big done.

Even if we don't make a big move, this team is full of young players who are only going to get better and was good enough to win 48 games last year.

If it's not meant to be with Durant or another great free agent this year, just sit back and enjoy the ride of watching a team full of high effort players develop and improve.

With the Nets pick the next two years we have the ability to add players that could someday become stars. There isn't a team in the league better set up to develop talented young plays than in Boston. Our team plays hard, plays physical and shares the ball what better environment to grow players.

I'd like to believe that, but with what we've done in the draft the last two years I don't. No faith whatsoever that the Nets picks won't be entirely squandered.
I tend to be more positive, so I'm going to wait to actually see Jaylen Brown on the court for the C's before I write the book on whether our draft picks are entirely squandered.

However, even if you think Ainge is a terrible drafter with this many lottery picks in a row he'd be bound to get at least one right.

Since the stats on his drafting show he whiffs about 60 percent of the time, you'd be right.

Perhaps he did mail this draft in under the assumption that he needed cap space. Brown might amount to something, but the easily proffered laundry list of his shortcomings by scouts are pretty disappointing for the third pick in the draft.

That requires signing someone, though, and not this tired "the best deals are the ones you don't make." They won't be able to sell that to the flock forever.
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Re: I won't get fooled again
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2016, 02:04:32 PM »

Offline BitterJim

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I hear you.

I just don't believe anything coming out of the front office any more.

Show me results, and maybe I'll start believing again. But I'm not going to hang my hat on this endless succession of moves that don't advance the product on the floor, like the 2016 and 2017 drafts. Summer league bores me to tears, too.

Any chance you can fire up that crystal ball and tell us who we get in the 2017 draft that is such a failure?  It would help eliminate some of the anxiousness this coming season
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Re: I won't get fooled again
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2016, 02:05:29 PM »

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I never get hype about possible free agent signings or trades until they are officially announced. The only thing I anticipate is the NBA draft since its the only certainty.

Re: I won't get fooled again
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2016, 02:07:02 PM »

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There is a chance we get Durant and/or Horford but it's low. You should expect that we don't do much in free agency and hope that we get something big done.

Even if we don't make a big move, this team is full of young players who are only going to get better and was good enough to win 48 games last year.

If it's not meant to be with Durant or another great free agent this year, just sit back and enjoy the ride of watching a team full of high effort players develop and improve.

With the Nets pick the next two years we have the ability to add players that could someday become stars. There isn't a team in the league better set up to develop talented young plays than in Boston. Our team plays hard, plays physical and shares the ball what better environment to grow players.

I'd like to believe that, but with what we've done in the draft the last two years I don't. No faith whatsoever that the Nets picks won't be entirely squandered.
I tend to be more positive, so I'm going to wait to actually see Jaylen Brown on the court for the C's before I write the book on whether our draft picks are entirely squandered.

However, even if you think Ainge is a terrible drafter with this many lottery picks in a row he'd be bound to get at least one right.

Since the stats on his drafting show he whiffs about 60 percent of the time, you'd be right.

Perhaps he did mail this draft in under the assumption that he needed cap space. Brown might amount to something, but the easily proffered laundry list of his shortcomings by scouts are pretty disappointing for the third pick in the draft.

That requires signing someone, though, and not this tired "the best deals are the ones you don't make." They won't be able to sell that to the flock forever.

Any chance of actually showing that stat?
I'm bitter.

Re: I won't get fooled again
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2016, 02:08:23 PM »

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There is a chance we get Durant and/or Horford but it's low. You should expect that we don't do much in free agency and hope that we get something big done.

Even if we don't make a big move, this team is full of young players who are only going to get better and was good enough to win 48 games last year.

If it's not meant to be with Durant or another great free agent this year, just sit back and enjoy the ride of watching a team full of high effort players develop and improve.

With the Nets pick the next two years we have the ability to add players that could someday become stars. There isn't a team in the league better set up to develop talented young plays than in Boston. Our team plays hard, plays physical and shares the ball what better environment to grow players.

I'd like to believe that, but with what we've done in the draft the last two years I don't. No faith whatsoever that the Nets picks won't be entirely squandered.
I tend to be more positive, so I'm going to wait to actually see Jaylen Brown on the court for the C's before I write the book on whether our draft picks are entirely squandered.

However, even if you think Ainge is a terrible drafter with this many lottery picks in a row he'd be bound to get at least one right.

Since the stats on his drafting show he whiffs about 60 percent of the time, you'd be right.

Perhaps he did mail this draft in under the assumption that he needed cap space. Brown might amount to something, but the easily proffered laundry list of his shortcomings by scouts are pretty disappointing for the third pick in the draft.

That requires signing someone, though, and not this tired "the best deals are the ones you don't make." They won't be able to sell that to the flock forever.
The thing is, even if he did mail in the draft (which I don't think he did). The team is still going to be pretty good.
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Re: I won't get fooled again
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2016, 02:19:18 PM »

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There is a chance we get Durant and/or Horford but it's low. You should expect that we don't do much in free agency and hope that we get something big done.

Even if we don't make a big move, this team is full of young players who are only going to get better and was good enough to win 48 games last year.

If it's not meant to be with Durant or another great free agent this year, just sit back and enjoy the ride of watching a team full of high effort players develop and improve.

With the Nets pick the next two years we have the ability to add players that could someday become stars. There isn't a team in the league better set up to develop talented young plays than in Boston. Our team plays hard, plays physical and shares the ball what better environment to grow players.

I'd like to believe that, but with what we've done in the draft the last two years I don't. No faith whatsoever that the Nets picks won't be entirely squandered.
I tend to be more positive, so I'm going to wait to actually see Jaylen Brown on the court for the C's before I write the book on whether our draft picks are entirely squandered.

However, even if you think Ainge is a terrible drafter with this many lottery picks in a row he'd be bound to get at least one right.

Since the stats on his drafting show he whiffs about 60 percent of the time, you'd be right.

Perhaps he did mail this draft in under the assumption that he needed cap space. Brown might amount to something, but the easily proffered laundry list of his shortcomings by scouts are pretty disappointing for the third pick in the draft.

That requires signing someone, though, and not this tired "the best deals are the ones you don't make." They won't be able to sell that to the flock forever.

Any chance of actually showing that stat?


Re: I won't get fooled again
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2016, 02:20:34 PM »

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Shouldn't the media shoulder a good deal of the blame?

They are reporting inaccuracies and then we react to them.

It's like getting mad at your best friend for something an agenda wielding acquaintance told you that he said...if that makes any sense... :o


Re: I won't get fooled again
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2016, 02:21:22 PM »

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I don't raise my expectations, especially for immediate fireworks. Danny has said numerous times it took THREE YEARS to trade for KG. You never know. He might be working something that could work out in a year or two. Maybe the Thunder start to suck and it frustrates KD to the point where he gets traded in a year or two. Maybe we're just better off building through the draft while this current team competes.

 Part of that is on the fans and part of that is on Wyc talking too much.

Re: I won't get fooled again
« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2016, 02:33:02 PM »

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My expectations is always the same each season.
Play for the win, maintain good chemistry, develop young players, make fans enjoy the games and be proud of their team.
My hopes are through the roof.

So far I never get disapointed (except when they don't play certain rookies).

Re: I won't get fooled again
« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2016, 02:34:50 PM »

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this thread is incomplete without Who weighing in. 

Re: I won't get fooled again
« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2016, 02:41:31 PM »

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Yup, I'm ready to move on. Looking at all these other recruitments/pitches I honestly feel like we have no shot. We probably have a better shot than Miami but that's about it. meh

What other pitches were presented?
Well we're hearing what they'll be the star power...we have nothing to offer IT is a borderline star
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Re: I won't get fooled again
« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2016, 02:42:39 PM »

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Shouldn't the media shoulder a good deal of the blame?

They are reporting inaccuracies and then we react to them.

It's like getting mad at your best friend for something an agenda wielding acquaintance told you that he said...if that makes any sense... :o

I hope your proof the media is wrong isn't Ainge and Wyc's word, or I've found something else on this blog to laugh at.
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Re: I won't get fooled again
« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2016, 02:43:15 PM »

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Maybe i'm in the minority, but I'll gladly take the 7th best record in the NBA in exchange for some minor summertime disappointment over non-moves every day of the week and 2x on Sunday.

We have a really good team.
We have a really good coach.
We have a really good GM who built that team and hired that coach.

Would I love to add a "star"? Yes.
Would I rather be a team like SAC or MIL or LAL with a "star" but 36 wins? No.

Glass is more than half-full IMO.
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Re: I won't get fooled again
« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2016, 02:43:32 PM »

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There is a chance we get Durant and/or Horford but it's low. You should expect that we don't do much in free agency and hope that we get something big done.

Even if we don't make a big move, this team is full of young players who are only going to get better and was good enough to win 48 games last year.

If it's not meant to be with Durant or another great free agent this year, just sit back and enjoy the ride of watching a team full of high effort players develop and improve.

With the Nets pick the next two years we have the ability to add players that could someday become stars. There isn't a team in the league better set up to develop talented young plays than in Boston. Our team plays hard, plays physical and shares the ball what better environment to grow players.

I'd like to believe that, but with what we've done in the draft the last two years I don't. No faith whatsoever that the Nets picks won't be entirely squandered.
I tend to be more positive, so I'm going to wait to actually see Jaylen Brown on the court for the C's before I write the book on whether our draft picks are entirely squandered.

However, even if you think Ainge is a terrible drafter with this many lottery picks in a row he'd be bound to get at least one right.

Since the stats on his drafting show he whiffs about 60 percent of the time, you'd be right.

Perhaps he did mail this draft in under the assumption that he needed cap space. Brown might amount to something, but the easily proffered laundry list of his shortcomings by scouts are pretty disappointing for the third pick in the draft.

That requires signing someone, though, and not this tired "the best deals are the ones you don't make." They won't be able to sell that to the flock forever.

Any chance of actually showing that stat?



It has been on this site before. And I consider that number extremely generous to Ainge. I have him whiffing on seven out of every 10 picks.
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