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Re: The main reason Durant won't stay with OKC this summer
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2016, 12:39:54 PM »

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His agent is pushing him hard to do the 1 + 1 deal.

Makes the Agent and Durant the most money, though Durant has consistently talked down that option. So who the heck knows what will happen. I do think the fact that he's taking 6 meetings doesn't bode great for OKC.

Yeah, I mean I still see him doing the 1 + 1 deal for financial reasons and to have an out if things would go bad, but I still think the plan would be to stay wherever he ends up this summer for the foreseeable future rather than doing this all again next year.

It makes, by far, the most financial sense to stay with OKC for another year and leave next year. If he's doing the 1 + 1 deal for financial reasons, then his most logical option is to stay with OKC for another year. If the money doesn't really matter, then he should be looking to sign a 5-year max deal with whichever team he decides to sign with this summer. Taking a two-year opt out deal with another team is a middle ground option that doesn't really much sense either way, financially or basketball-wise. He loses out on money and what's the point of leaving for another team for just a single year when you know that most of those teams would have serious personnel changes to accommodate KD's contract?

I think you're bifurcating this unnecessarily. We all know that the money isn't the most important thing for KD. Hell, he just signed a ten year, $300M deal with Nike a couple of years ago, so he's not worried about money. Rather, the basketball situation, environment, and future are the things that Durant cares about.

That being said, it makes all the sense in the world for him to do the 1 + 1 even if he does switch teams, because A) he can sign a long-term deal for more money in 2017 due to the rising cap and his status as a 10-year vet, and B) that gives him an out if things wouldn't work out on a new team this coming season.

So, in fact, the two-year deal with the player opt-out makes all the sense in the world for KD given his situation/priorities where money isn't his primary concern, but he still has a way of protecting himself if things would go sour, while also making himself more money. For example, if he would come here and there were two or three major injuries to our main rotation guys, this would give him a chance to leave if need be.

If teams are willing to offer the 1 + 1 to him, which they will be since you do whatever you can to get him to your team, then it doesn't make sense for him to sign long-term to give himself less options should things go sour. Beyond the money, that's one of the reasons that Lebron never signs for long contracts now, because it keeps pressure on the organization to spend money and keep high-level talent around him. By being able to opt-out every year, he gives himself the most flexibility to both keep a winning team around him and take advantage of the rising salary cap.

Unless he's playing it safe in case he would injure himself this year, then I see no reason why he should sign somewhere long-term this offseason.
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Re: The main reason Durant won't stay with OKC this summer
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2016, 06:47:47 PM »

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FYI, on Sportscenter Broussard (I know, I know) is basically parroting this thread:

A) Durant is viewing this summer's free agent decision as a long-term solution. He's not wanting to go through it again next year;

B) Westbrook's 2017 plans are what matter most to KD in their relationship, i.e. he doesn't want to get stuck in OKC on a long-term contract if Westbrook leaves;

C) He'll still sign a 1 + 1 if he moves to a new team.

I actually feel pretty hopeful between these reports and the Bobby Marks article from the vertical today.
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Re: The main reason Durant won't stay with OKC this summer
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2016, 07:20:16 PM »

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FYI, on Sportscenter Broussard (I know, I know) is basically parroting this thread:

A) Durant is viewing this summer's free agent decision as a long-term solution. He's not wanting to go through it again next year;

B) Westbrook's 2017 plans are what matter most to KD in their relationship, i.e. he doesn't want to get stuck in OKC on a long-term contract if Westbrook leaves;

C) He'll still sign a 1 + 1 if he moves to a new team.

I actually feel pretty hopeful between these reports and the Bobby Marks article from the vertical today.


TP. I think that's a pretty logical argument. If Westbrook's likely gone, than KD is going to jump first.

If I'm not mistaken, the 1+1 option negates OKC's money advantage on the size of ranges (edit) raises.

(1) Max-out deal in year 1 for Cs,
(2) opt-out,
(3) sign a new 5 year deal with the Cs again with the cap spiking up from $94MM to $110MM level.
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Re: The main reason Durant won't stay with OKC this summer
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2016, 07:20:39 PM »

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I love the idea of durant in Boston and hope we can pull it off, but I'm giving zero credence to the rumors and speculation.
I advise this course of action, especially for those who lost their minds on Thursday.
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Re: The main reason Durant won't stay with OKC this summer
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2016, 07:22:58 PM »

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FYI, on Sportscenter Broussard (I know, I know) is basically parroting this thread:

A) Durant is viewing this summer's free agent decision as a long-term solution. He's not wanting to go through it again next year;

B) Westbrook's 2017 plans are what matter most to KD in their relationship, i.e. he doesn't want to get stuck in OKC on a long-term contract if Westbrook leaves;

C) He'll still sign a 1 + 1 if he moves to a new team.

I actually feel pretty hopeful between these reports and the Bobby Marks article from the vertical today.


TP. I think that's a pretty logical argument. If Westbrook's likely gone, than KD is going to jump first.

If I'm not mistaken, the 1+1 option negates OKC's money advantage on the size of ranges.

(1) Max-out deal in year 1 for Cs,
(2) opt-out,
(3) sign a new 5 year deal with the Cs again with the cap spiking up from $94MM to $110MM level.

I'm not sure. I think Saltlover just wrote an article for Celticsblog detailing it all if you want to check it out.
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Re: The main reason Durant won't stay with OKC this summer
« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2016, 07:32:51 PM »

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I love the idea of durant in Boston and hope we can pull it off, but I'm giving zero credence to the rumors and speculation.
I advise this course of action, especially for those who lost their minds on Thursday.
We don't want a repeat of that collective emotional freek out.

Is this a defense mechanism or legitimately you not believing the reports? Lol Because there are several different reports stating this, not just Broussard.
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Re: The main reason Durant won't stay with OKC this summer
« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2016, 07:39:38 PM »

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I still believe Russ and KD are gonna go for one last ride together, at least, even if there's an understanding they'll both move on next summer.
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Re: The main reason Durant won't stay with OKC this summer
« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2016, 07:47:04 PM »

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I still believe Russ and KD are gonna go for one last ride together, at least, even if there's an understanding they'll both move on next summer.

I mean, if that was already decided, then this whole meeting with six teams then is just pointless, which seems contrary to KD's character.
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Re: The main reason Durant won't stay with OKC this summer
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2016, 08:15:19 PM »

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I still believe Russ and KD are gonna go for one last ride together, at least, even if there's an understanding they'll both move on next summer.

I mean, if that was already decided, then this whole meeting with six teams then is just pointless, which seems contrary to KD's character.

I think KD wants to consider his options, give some teams a chance to convince him, but ultimately the strongest pull will be to give it one more shot with Russ.

It wouldn't totally shock me if KD ends up deciding he wants stability and signs somewhere else this summer long term, even though that would mean he'd make less money long term.  The meetings this summer could also be the initial feeling out process for when he ultimately makes a long term decision next year.

If Durant does choose to sign somewhere long term this summer -- over the protestations of his agent -- I think it'll be for the sake of winning.  In other words, Golden State, maybe San Antonio.
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Re: The main reason Durant won't stay with OKC this summer
« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2016, 08:19:56 PM »

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I still believe Russ and KD are gonna go for one last ride together, at least, even if there's an understanding they'll both move on next summer.

I mean, if that was already decided, then this whole meeting with six teams then is just pointless, which seems contrary to KD's character.

I think KD wants to consider his options, give some teams a chance to convince him, but ultimately the strongest pull will be to give it one more shot with Russ.

It wouldn't totally shock me if KD ends up deciding he wants stability and signs somewhere else this summer long term, even though that would mean he'd make less money long term.  The meetings this summer could also be the initial feeling out process for when he ultimately makes a long term decision next year.

If Durant does choose to sign somewhere long term this summer -- over the protestations of his agent -- I think it'll be for the sake of winning.  In other words, Golden State, maybe San Antonio.

I think he also wants to keep his legacy as well.And not join a star studded Warriors team.

Re: The main reason Durant won't stay with OKC this summer
« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2016, 08:24:19 PM »

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I'll say this: if he signs long term now, and not the 1+1, it'd be in his best interest to be in that bigger market, to "compensate" for the additional benefits of going 1+1 and then long term.
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Re: The main reason Durant won't stay with OKC this summer
« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2016, 08:39:50 PM »

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My biggest gripe is that everyone is saying it's a "lock" Westbrook leaves for LA next summer. Didn't everyone say that about Kevin Love? Wasn't Durant himself supposedly going to Washington and now they can't even get a meeting? If you believe everything you read, the Lakers would have every major free agent of the last 4 years and made every major trade. No one knows what these players are thinking this far out  and Westbrook doesn't seem like the type of guy that would willingly puthimself in a losing situation. 
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Re: The main reason Durant won't stay with OKC this summer
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2016, 08:43:55 PM »

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I still believe Russ and KD are gonna go for one last ride together, at least, even if there's an understanding they'll both move on next summer.

I mean, if that was already decided, then this whole meeting with six teams then is just pointless, which seems contrary to KD's character.

I think KD wants to consider his options, give some teams a chance to convince him, but ultimately the strongest pull will be to give it one more shot with Russ.

It wouldn't totally shock me if KD ends up deciding he wants stability and signs somewhere else this summer long term, even though that would mean he'd make less money long term.  The meetings this summer could also be the initial feeling out process for when he ultimately makes a long term decision next year.

If Durant does choose to sign somewhere long term this summer -- over the protestations of his agent -- I think it'll be for the sake of winning.  In other words, Golden State, maybe San Antonio.

I mean, that's the thing, though, he'll still sign a 1 + 1 on a new team, almost guaranteed. It just doesn't make sense at all to sign long-term this offseason when that's on the table. He'll make more money, and it gives him the opportunity to opt out should he be unhappy. Just because he signs a 1 + 1 for a new team doesn't mean it's still not essentially a long-term commitment, just like Lebron James in Cleveland.
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Re: The main reason Durant won't stay with OKC this summer
« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2016, 08:45:36 PM »

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My biggest gripe is that everyone is saying it's a "lock" Westbrook leaves for LA next summer. Didn't everyone say that about Kevin Love? Wasn't Durant himself supposedly going to Washington and now they can't even get a meeting? If you believe everything you read, the Lakers would have every major free agent of the last 4 years and made every major trade. No one knows what these players are thinking this far out  and Westbrook doesn't seem like the type of guy that would willingly puthimself in a losing situation.

When was Love supposed to go to LA? The trade for Cleveland ultimately made that scenario less than likely.
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Re: The main reason Durant won't stay with OKC this summer
« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2016, 09:54:17 PM »

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I wonder if Durant bolts if OKC is willing to cut their losses and send Westbrook out to LA a year early for Russell, Randle, and picks.