Bulpett:It might be wait until next year

[CoachBo]

I expect Ainge to keep the Celts "flexible" year after year in the hopes of chasing one or more of them.

I just wonder what the plan is if a top 10-15 player never becomes available for a pile of middling assets, or ever decides to sign here in free agency.

We can do this by trading the 3 for Okafor and Noel, really, and still improve the team.  Okafor is an offensive upgrade over Sully.   Noel is a big time defensive upgrade.   As long as Jonas and Amir are on those contracts we have some flexibility for the future and we keep some cap space.

We can take a flyer on some of our late picks.  I would be intrigued by Brice Johnson as a big, athletic though an upperclassmen.

Agreed.

[kraidstar]

historically the vast majority of the c's stars, including almost all superstars, were acquired via the draft.

cousy, russell, heinsohn, jones, havlicek, white, cowens, bird, mchale, pierce, rondo...

bias probably would have been another one.

billups and joe johnson were traded away for peanuts by pitino.

sometimes the best trades are the ones you don't make.

being patient is OK with me.

[Rondo9]

If patience is the right pathway for now, I'm on board.  Have to trust.   But what frustrates me is that the freakin' Lakers are going to complete their 3rd successful tanking year with their 3rd possible future star (while of course opening cap space to fill with a superstar); and the Sixers will continue their tanking run with yet another potential star. Meanwhile, the C's star-power consists only of IT  -- a 5'9" 27yo all-star who will never be more than a top 25 player at best.   

Sadly, the lack of tank appears to have cost this team. 

But non-tank has been the plan, and it's up to Danny to make it work.  I'd rather sooner than later, but I can wait.

They have the 3rd pick in the draft.

[trickybilly]

Butler is definitely off-limits now, but Cousins is definitely still in play..

[Casperian]

Isn't it always "wait until next year"?

There are only so many superstars likely to become available in one way or another in the next 4-5 years ... Durant, Westbrook, Griffin, George, Cousins, Davis etc.

I expect Ainge to keep the Celts "flexible" year after year in the hopes of chasing one or more of them.

I just wonder what the plan is if a top 10-15 player never becomes available for a pile of middling assets, or ever decides to sign here in free agency.

#foreveralone

Do we really have to go over the list of star players who got traded in the last few years alone again?

What if we tank for 10 years and never win the lottery? What if my horse was a squirrel, could I ride on trees? Why did Wendy Testaburger kill the Smurfs?

All legit questions nobody has the answer to.

If you're already getting impatient after three years of rebuilding, how are the fans of the other 20 franchises who haven't won a title since 1980 supposed to feel? Because there have only been ten different NBA champions over the last 35 years. That's just the way it is. I think we're doing exceptionally well for year 3 of the rebuild.

[chiken Green]

I expect Ainge to keep the Celts "flexible" year after year in the hopes of chasing one or more of them.

I just wonder what the plan is if a top 10-15 player never becomes available for a pile of middling assets, or ever decides to sign here in free agency.

We can do this by trading the 3 for Okafor and Noel, really, and still improve the team.  Okafor is an offensive upgrade over Sully.   Noel is a big time defensive upgrade.   As long as Jonas and Amir are on those contracts we have some flexibility for the future and we keep some cap space.

We can take a flyer on some of our late picks.  I would be intrigued by Brice Johnson as a big, athletic though an upperclassmen.

Trading the 3 for Okafor is a mistake.. You might as Well Draft Chriss or Bender.. They at least can develop into our style of player or at the very least End up with more value in 2 or 3 years than the 1 dimensional Okafor..   

People suggest that eventually the game is going to come back to the box.. Cool, but those players cleaned Glass and defended the Rim at the same time.. If you spend the 3 on JO and he continues not fitting his value will do nothing but plummet.. What good does that do us?

Boston Has never been a free agent hot bed..  All of our championship Success has been Via the Draft - even the KG and Ray Allen situation was made possible because We Drafted Pierce and Rondo..

We need to pray that Danny Finds that piece in the Draft that we can build a champion around.. These next 2 to 3 Draft years will be our best opportunity for that.

[oldtype]

Isn't it always "wait until next year"?

There are only so many superstars likely to become available in one way or another in the next 4-5 years ... Durant, Westbrook, Griffin, George, Cousins, Davis etc.

I expect Ainge to keep the Celts "flexible" year after year in the hopes of chasing one or more of them.

I just wonder what the plan is if a top 10-15 player never becomes available for a pile of middling assets, or ever decides to sign here in free agency.

The absolute worst case scenario for us is that we roll over the current team and just use our three high lottery picks to draft a bunch of kids, one of which may become a top 10 player.

Obviously this won't be a whole lot of fun and we'd probably have to let Thomas and/or Bradley walk or some point, but it's a lot better than the worst case scenario for a lot of places.

[slamtheking]

Bo you should go become a Knicks fan.  You'd love it.  Spending with no logic or reason.

 Also should pick up the redskins for your NFL team  L M A off

as a Redskins fan, please don't remind me of their front office failings and PLEASE don't send Bo our way.  we have enough misery without adding his.

[cltc5]

We're not trading or getting anyone because this isn't 2008.  GM s aren't stupid anymore and ainge doesn't have one of his buddies looking out for him.  We are going to need to build through the draft and if that's the case unfortunately bender or brown fill immediate position needs where as Murray or hield fulfills shooting needs.  We're Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ed basically

[PhoSita]

Isn't it always "wait until next year"?

There are only so many superstars likely to become available in one way or another in the next 4-5 years ... Durant, Westbrook, Griffin, George, Cousins, Davis etc.

I expect Ainge to keep the Celts "flexible" year after year in the hopes of chasing one or more of them.

I just wonder what the plan is if a top 10-15 player never becomes available for a pile of middling assets, or ever decides to sign here in free agency.

#foreveralone

Do we really have to go over the list of star players who got traded in the last few years alone again?

What if we tank for 10 years and never win the lottery? What if my horse was a squirrel, could I ride on trees? Why did Wendy Testaburger kill the Smurfs?

All legit questions nobody has the answer to.

If you're already getting impatient after three years of rebuilding, how are the fans of the other 20 franchises who haven't won a title since 1980 supposed to feel? Because there have only been ten different NBA champions over the last 35 years. That's just the way it is. I think we're doing exceptionally well for year 3 of the rebuild.

It's not rebuilding that has me impatient.

It's hanging out in the middle always in "asset acquisition" mode never choosing a clear path that has me impatient.

I don't want to watch the team continue rolling over year to year for flexibility's sake where every move is made with some future blockbuster trade in mind.

[Rondo9]

Isn't it always "wait until next year"?

There are only so many superstars likely to become available in one way or another in the next 4-5 years ... Durant, Westbrook, Griffin, George, Cousins, Davis etc.

I expect Ainge to keep the Celts "flexible" year after year in the hopes of chasing one or more of them.

I just wonder what the plan is if a top 10-15 player never becomes available for a pile of middling assets, or ever decides to sign here in free agency.

#foreveralone

Do we really have to go over the list of star players who got traded in the last few years alone again?

What if we tank for 10 years and never win the lottery? What if my horse was a squirrel, could I ride on trees? Why did Wendy Testaburger kill the Smurfs?

All legit questions nobody has the answer to.

If you're already getting impatient after three years of rebuilding, how are the fans of the other 20 franchises who haven't won a title since 1980 supposed to feel? Because there have only been ten different NBA champions over the last 35 years. That's just the way it is. I think we're doing exceptionally well for year 3 of the rebuild.

It's not rebuilding that has me impatient.

It's hanging out in the middle always in "asset acquisition" mode never choosing a clear path that has me impatient.

I don't want to watch the team continue rolling over year to year for flexibility's sake where every move is made with some future blockbuster trade in mind.

The Celtics still have Brooklyn's two draft picks and flexibility is always important when you want to sign and make trades. It's best to keep options open.

[saltlover]

Isn't it always "wait until next year"?

There are only so many superstars likely to become available in one way or another in the next 4-5 years ... Durant, Westbrook, Griffin, George, Cousins, Davis etc.

I expect Ainge to keep the Celts "flexible" year after year in the hopes of chasing one or more of them.

I just wonder what the plan is if a top 10-15 player never becomes available for a pile of middling assets, or ever decides to sign here in free agency.

#foreveralone

Do we really have to go over the list of star players who got traded in the last few years alone again?

What if we tank for 10 years and never win the lottery? What if my horse was a squirrel, could I ride on trees? Why did Wendy Testaburger kill the Smurfs?

All legit questions nobody has the answer to.

If you're already getting impatient after three years of rebuilding, how are the fans of the other 20 franchises who haven't won a title since 1980 supposed to feel? Because there have only been ten different NBA champions over the last 35 years. That's just the way it is. I think we're doing exceptionally well for year 3 of the rebuild.

It's not rebuilding that has me impatient.

It's hanging out in the middle always in "asset acquisition" mode never choosing a clear path that has me impatient.

I don't want to watch the team continue rolling over year to year for flexibility's sake where every move is made with some future blockbuster trade in mind.

You're ridiculously impatient.  We haven't been "hanging out in the middle" all that long.  Maybe 15 months?  Before that we were in the dregs for about the same amount of time.  Normally teams go from the bottom to the middle to the top, with a stop for a couple years at each (if they ever make it to the top, that is).  Sometimes there are shortcuts, but those aren't all that common.  The team is an above-average squad with a lot of cap space, so of course flexibility is key.  Giving it up to stay a middling team is foolish, and at the same time, tearing it down before you've taken the real chance to get to the top is also foolish.

Seriously, Rondo was traded 18 months ago this week.  That was the nadir of the rebuild.  That's a season and a half of what most expected would be several year journey to reach the top, and you're already tired of it?  There's been one free agency period in that time, and one draft.  How much did you expect to happen?

[Snakehead]

The Celtics have not been in the middle long (as outlined by others) plus with the Nets effectively  tanking for us it isn't even a worry.  It's all about the deals coming along.  Which can be worrying, but it is totally the right strategy.  I love that the team is building and competitive while still being a young team.  That is a big plus for development.

[PaulP34]

In other words, Grousbeck pulled his annual stunt, and still doesn't want to spend any money.

Glad I'm not paying for season tickets in that scenario. What's that old canard about a fool and his money being soon parted?

You can possibly that naive, can you?

I tried warning them kind of thinkers a month ago with the 0% chance of Durant, Butler is not getting traded and the Danny won't trade #3 pick. It was a tactical post so these types can't have a right to credibly say anything negative about the brass. N I'm not here for I told u so's even though I took a lot of heat for all that. My message was and still is, take the long road and build through the draft. Use the Brooklyn picks wisely and see where we are come 2019. I have no doubt in my mind the Celtics will have a great core of guys by that time and the championship roster is on the floor, the Lebron and Curry's of the world will be in decline.

Jaylen Brown is my pick at #3 he's going to be a special player.

[BitterJim]

We're not trading or getting anyone because this isn't 2008.  GM s aren't stupid anymore and ainge doesn't have one of his buddies looking out for him.  We are going to need to build through the draft and if that's the case unfortunately bender or brown fill immediate position needs where as Murray or hield fulfills shooting needs.  We're ****ed basically

So does that mean that the trade with the Nets wasn't a dumb deal by Billy King and the Love trade wasn't a bad deal for Cleveland? Or the MCW trade bad for the Bucks? The IT deal bad for the Suns?  Was Rondo a good fit in Dallas?

There are always going to be GMs, and there are always going to be otherwise good GMs that make a dumb mistake.  Danny tends to come out on the right side of deals because he's smart, not because he's just "lucky" or has friends "looking out for him"