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Bender workout goes well today
« on: June 21, 2016, 09:31:29 PM »

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Kyle Draper: The #Celtics worked out Dragan Bender Tuesday. FWIW I’m told he looked good during workouts. Less than 48 hrs away from #NBADraft night. 26 mins ago – via Twitter KyleDraperTV
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Well, I guess that means we are not taking Bender then, Ainge is trying to get the Lakers to take him.

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'Good' also doesnt mean 'great' or 'excellent' or 'fantastic' or 'outstanding', etc.

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'Good' also doesnt mean 'great' or 'excellent' or 'fantastic' or 'outstanding', etc.

You mean he didn't make 106 out of 100 jumpers, set a record in the Celtics death sprint, get Brad Stevens' personal endorsement, and posterize a lawn chair?

The post-workout hype always cracks me up.


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'Good' also doesnt mean 'great' or 'excellent' or 'fantastic' or 'outstanding', etc.

You mean he didn't make 106 out of 100 jumpers, set a record in the Celtics death sprint, get Brad Stevens' personal endorsement, and posterize a lawn chair?

The post-workout hype always cracks me up.

I think he hpantazo has a fair point.

I've never heard bad feedback about a workout - you never really hear "the workout went poorly, the guy sucked". 

But if you listen to the feedback about the workouts of guys Danny is reportedly interested in (Brown, Hield, Dunn) they seem to get a much more then just "the workout went good".  They tend to gloat about how great an athlete the player is, how hard a worker they are, how much talent/potential they have, etc.

For example, Danny and Brad were absolutely throwing out superlatives last year after working out Rozier, RJ Hunter and even Mickey - pretty much gushing about how impressive they were. 

If you look at the other guys who got siimlarly modest feedback (Chriss and Murray) they are the two guys who werem't on the list of guys Danny apparently narrowed down to.

It seems that the word "good" in workout feedback seems to really mean "he's ok but we weren't blown away". 

I would assume at this point it's probably down to Hield, Dunn and Brown - I'd be pretty thrilled with either to be honest. 

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'Good' also doesnt mean 'great' or 'excellent' or 'fantastic' or 'outstanding', etc.

You mean he didn't make 106 out of 100 jumpers, set a record in the Celtics death sprint, get Brad Stevens' personal endorsement, and posterize a lawn chair?

The post-workout hype always cracks me up.

I think he hpantazo has a fair point.

I've never heard bad feedback about a workout - you never really hear "the workout went poorly, the guy sucked". 

But if you listen to the feedback about the workouts of guys Danny is reportedly interested in (Brown, Hield, Dunn) they seem to get a much more then just "the workout went good".  They tend to gloat about how great an athlete the player is, how hard a worker they are, how much talent/potential they have, etc.

For example, Danny and Brad were absolutely throwing out superlatives last year after working out Rozier, RJ Hunter and even Mickey - pretty much gushing about how impressive they were. 

If you look at the other guys who got siimlarly modest feedback (Chriss and Murray) they are the two guys who werem't on the list of guys Danny apparently narrowed down to.

It seems that the word "good" in workout feedback seems to really mean "he's ok but we weren't blown away". 

I would assume at this point it's probably down to Hield, Dunn and Brown - I'd be pretty thrilled with either to be honest.

I know what you are saying, but yes you do hear bad feedback.  Smart had some during his first Celtic workout.  Bender even had some at his European workout.  You hear about bad workouts from time to time.

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'Good' also doesnt mean 'great' or 'excellent' or 'fantastic' or 'outstanding', etc.

You mean he didn't make 106 out of 100 jumpers, set a record in the Celtics death sprint, get Brad Stevens' personal endorsement, and posterize a lawn chair?

The post-workout hype always cracks me up.

Yup, gotta love that post-workout hype machine!

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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2016, 10:20:50 PM »

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'Good' also doesnt mean 'great' or 'excellent' or 'fantastic' or 'outstanding', etc.

You mean he didn't make 106 out of 100 jumpers, set a record in the Celtics death sprint, get Brad Stevens' personal endorsement, and posterize a lawn chair?

The post-workout hype always cracks me up.

I think he hpantazo has a fair point.

I've never heard bad feedback about a workout - you never really hear "the workout went poorly, the guy sucked". 

But if you listen to the feedback about the workouts of guys Danny is reportedly interested in (Brown, Hield, Dunn) they seem to get a much more then just "the workout went good".  They tend to gloat about how great an athlete the player is, how hard a worker they are, how much talent/potential they have, etc.

For example, Danny and Brad were absolutely throwing out superlatives last year after working out Rozier, RJ Hunter and even Mickey - pretty much gushing about how impressive they were. 

If you look at the other guys who got siimlarly modest feedback (Chriss and Murray) they are the two guys who werem't on the list of guys Danny apparently narrowed down to.

It seems that the word "good" in workout feedback seems to really mean "he's ok but we weren't blown away". 

I would assume at this point it's probably down to Hield, Dunn and Brown - I'd be pretty thrilled with either to be honest.

I know what you are saying, but yes you do hear bad feedback.  Smart had some during his first Celtic workout.  Bender even had some at his European workout.  You hear about bad workouts from time to time.

Yeah Marcus had a "horrible" workout...

http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2015/05/marcus_smarts_1st_pre-draft_wo.html


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Bender is the first guy I wanted so I'd be happy if we take him in the end. I don't think we can lose this draft overly. I'd still take him or Brown.  Workouts aren't  everything.

I think if the celtics liek a guy they are going to take him.  Players rise and fall and more clarification but I've read a lot and I still have it bender or brown with hield 3rd.  Dunn as a trade option. I'd stay away from Murray or Chriss.

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'Good' also doesnt mean 'great' or 'excellent' or 'fantastic' or 'outstanding', etc.

You mean he didn't make 106 out of 100 jumpers, set a record in the Celtics death sprint, get Brad Stevens' personal endorsement, and posterize a lawn chair?

The post-workout hype always cracks me up.

Ahahaha, TP.

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http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2015/05/marcus_smarts_1st_pre-draft_wo.html

My favorite quotes from ^ are

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"He came in and had a horrible workout," explained Austin Ainge, the team's director of player personnel. "And we liked Marcus. We were like, 'Wow, that was bad.'"

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It was so bad the Celtics called Smart's agent and offered the guard a chance to redeem himself. After Boston's pitch -- "Hey, look, we know you can play better than you did," according to Ainge -- he returned a few days before the draft and put on a significantly better showing.

"We probably still would have drafted him anyway, but we convinced him to come back just so we could all feel more comfortable about it," Ainge said Wednesday after a pre-draft workout headlined by Bobby Portis. "And he came back, and he played great, and that kind of put everyone at ease."

In addition to his play in college, that poor workout should have been the nail in the coffin, but it's nice to see that they probably still would have taken him (sarcasm) ::). Unbelievable.  What do they see in these players?  I'm also getting the feeling that the perfect way to describe the result of Thursday's 4 hour comedy show is going to be, "Wow, that was bad." *facepalm* God help us, lol ;D.

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http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2015/05/marcus_smarts_1st_pre-draft_wo.html

My favorite quotes from ^ are

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"He came in and had a horrible workout," explained Austin Ainge, the team's director of player personnel. "And we liked Marcus. We were like, 'Wow, that was bad.'"

and

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It was so bad the Celtics called Smart's agent and offered the guard a chance to redeem himself. After Boston's pitch -- "Hey, look, we know you can play better than you did," according to Ainge -- he returned a few days before the draft and put on a significantly better showing.

"We probably still would have drafted him anyway, but we convinced him to come back just so we could all feel more comfortable about it," Ainge said Wednesday after a pre-draft workout headlined by Bobby Portis. "And he came back, and he played great, and that kind of put everyone at ease."

In addition to his play in college, that poor workout should have been the nail in the coffin, but it's nice to see that they probably still would have taken him (sarcasm) ::). Unbelievable.  What do they see in these players?  I'm also getting the feeling that the perfect way to describe the result of Thursday's 4 hour comedy show is going to be, "Wow, that was bad." *facepalm* God help us, lol ;D.

Cmon man. Don't be so negative. I know you're not a fan of Danny's drafting but let's see what he can do with this pick. I think it'll turn out ok, even if we don't trade it.
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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2016, 12:29:01 AM »

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Heard Mike Gorman say on 98.5 that he thinks Bender will be the guy if they can't make a trade.

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Heard Mike Gorman say on 98.5 that he thinks Bender will be the guy if they can't make a trade.

On CSN last night,   Jackie McMullan went with Dunn, though she admitted that, "everyone hates my pick" and acknowledged that she liked Dunn mainly because she has driven down I-95 and seen him a lot.  She acknowledged that he was a poor fit for the Celtics. 

But Scalabrine and Maxwell both said they think Bender will be the pick -- again, assuming Danny doesn't trade the pick (or pick intending to trade).   Both cited his length, work ethic and skill fit with the Celtics.

I couldn't get a clear hint as to whether any of them had managed to get a sneak peak at Bender's workout, though the fact that Scal and Max both answered pretty strongly towards Bender after both having very caged comments on him a couple of weeks ago is interesting.  Perhaps they've each had time since then to do a lot more research.

DraftExpress just updated their 'Top 100 Ranking' yesterday just before noon (after Bender's workout?) and still have Bender at #3, though their mock still predicts Dunn will be the pick (for trade reasons, according to the comments on their expanded mock draft page).

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Heard Mike Gorman say on 98.5 that he thinks Bender will be the guy if they can't make a trade.

On CSN last night,   Jackie McMullan went with Dunn, though she admitted that, "everyone hates my pick" and acknowledged that she liked Dunn mainly because she has driven down I-95 and seen him a lot.  She acknowledged that he was a poor fit for the Celtics. 

But Scalabrine and Maxwell both said they think Bender will be the pick -- again, assuming Danny doesn't trade the pick (or pick intending to trade).   Both cited his length, work ethic and skill fit with the Celtics.

I couldn't get a clear hint as to whether any of them had managed to get a sneak peak at Bender's workout, though the fact that Scal and Max both answered pretty strongly towards Bender after both having very caged comments on him a couple of weeks ago is interesting.  Perhaps they've each had time since then to do a lot more research.

DraftExpress just updated their 'Top 100 Ranking' yesterday just before noon (after Bender's workout?) and still have Bender at #3, though their mock still predicts Dunn will be the pick (for trade reasons, according to the comments on their expanded mock draft page).

God, no...not Bender.
Dunn is a poor fit? Bull sh...
Dunn will be an all start point guard.