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Two major frontcourt additions that address each other's weaknesses before free agency starts?

That would be a great first step toward a dynamic off-season - although I'm sure trading Bradley is gonna give some folks around here a brain aneurysm.
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Two major frontcourt additions that address each other's weaknesses before free agency starts?

That would be a great first step toward a dynamic off-season - although I'm sure trading Bradley is gonna give some folks around here a brain aneurysm.

Haha! It's amazing how much the perception of him has changed around here the last few years.
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My major concern with Okafor is how ball dominant he is (and needs to be to be effective) offensively.  Many of you are pointing out how talented he is and how he will probably keep improving due to his youth.  I don't disagree with either of those statements.  However, I don't see him changing from being a guy who needs to control the ball a lot on offense. 
I don't watch College ball.  THey won a national championship right?  From the stats it seems Cook, Winslow and JOnes had no trouble co-existing with him offensively.  I'm sure a guy of his skillset could fit in very well with any offense Stevens cooks up around him.

As ilikesports succinctly put it, Okafor will likely never be a "fit in" type player.   He may have the talent to be the type of guy you can build a title contending offense around, but that's an awfully big risk.  Not one I want to see Ainge take.

If he doesn't turn into "that guy," he has a high probability for being more of a negative than a positive due to his ball dominant style of play.
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I have no issue trading Bradley. Now..trading three for a substandard player is an issue.

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So Cleveland is apparently trying to get in the first round of the draft. I'm wondering if we can entice them with one or both of our later picks for Love, though they'd still probably insist upon Bradley or Crowder in the deal.

I'm very intrigued by a possible Love/Noel frontcourt added to our current team.

agreed...

Windhorst thinks Cleveland wants Bradley.

Sold.
Id imagine 3 gets you Noel and then some and Bradley + non-core piece gets you Love.

Even those who arent huge Love and Noel fans seem to be behind the idea of  a Love-Noel frontcourt because the complement eachother perfectly.

In a perfect world you get Philly to toss in that lakers or Kings pick or maybe even Saric, but Id imagine the filler with Noel would be a lot closer to Covington stauskas or 24.

I kind of like the idea of a Noel/Olynyk front court pairing.
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PF:  E. Ilyasova/J. Jerebko/R. Christmas
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At some point they have to sign a shooter. That is a must

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My major concern with Okafor is how ball dominant he is (and needs to be to be effective) offensively.  Many of you are pointing out how talented he is and how he will probably keep improving due to his youth.  I don't disagree with either of those statements.  However, I don't see him changing from being a guy who needs to control the ball a lot on offense. 
I don't watch College ball.  THey won a national championship right?  From the stats it seems Cook, Winslow and JOnes had no trouble co-existing with him offensively.  I'm sure a guy of his skillset could fit in very well with any offense Stevens cooks up around him.

As ilikesports succinctly put it, Okafor will likely never be a "fit in" type player.   He may have the talent to be the type of guy you can build a title contending offense around, but that's an awfully big risk.  Not one I want to see Ainge take.

If he doesn't turn into "that guy," he has a high probability for being more of a negative than a positive due to his ball dominant style of play.
He'd probably be our best offensive player immediately... so maybe they should "fit in" with him.

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Love would be one.

More would be needed.
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I think it was on the CLNS podcast that I heard them basically describe Kris Dunn as a better version of Marcus Smart.  Smart with more passing and shooting ability. 

If that's the case, maybe we should just try really really hard to include Marcus Smart + #16 in a package for Noel... and just draft Dunn.   

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My major concern with Okafor is how ball dominant he is (and needs to be to be effective) offensively.  Many of you are pointing out how talented he is and how he will probably keep improving due to his youth.  I don't disagree with either of those statements.  However, I don't see him changing from being a guy who needs to control the ball a lot on offense. 
I don't watch College ball.  THey won a national championship right?  From the stats it seems Cook, Winslow and JOnes had no trouble co-existing with him offensively.  I'm sure a guy of his skillset could fit in very well with any offense Stevens cooks up around him.

As ilikesports succinctly put it, Okafor will likely never be a "fit in" type player.   He may have the talent to be the type of guy you can build a title contending offense around, but that's an awfully big risk.  Not one I want to see Ainge take.

If he doesn't turn into "that guy," he has a high probability for being more of a negative than a positive due to his ball dominant style of play.
He'd probably be our best offensive player immediately... so maybe they should "fit in" with him.
Ewwww!!!!  He'd probably put up some good scoring numbers, but it would be ugly, and I doubt we'd win very much.
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SF:  Giannis/J. Lamb/M. Kuzminskas
PF:  E. Ilyasova/J. Jerebko/R. Christmas
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I think it was on the CLNS podcast that I heard them basically describe Kris Dunn as a better version of Marcus Smart.  Smart with more passing and shooting ability. 

If that's the case, maybe we should just try really really hard to include Marcus Smart + #16 in a package for Noel... and just draft Dunn.

No argument here.

But that would be fan aneurysm number 2.
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I have no issue trading Bradley. Now..trading three for a substandard player is an issue.

You don't think Ainge knows #3 has more value than just Noel ? Has to be more coming back.

Now #3 for Okafor works straight up.

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Draft Dunn at 3

Trade 16,23 and smart or Bradley for love

Sign a shooter in free agency

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So Cleveland is apparently trying to get in the first round of the draft. I'm wondering if we can entice them with one or both of our later picks for Love, though they'd still probably insist upon Bradley or Crowder in the deal.

I'm very intrigued by a possible Love/Noel frontcourt added to our current team.

agreed...

Windhorst thinks Cleveland wants Bradley.

Sold.
Id imagine 3 gets you Noel and then some and Bradley + non-core piece gets you Love.

Even those who arent huge Love and Noel fans seem to be behind the idea of  a Love-Noel frontcourt because the complement eachother perfectly.

In a perfect world you get Philly to toss in that lakers or Kings pick or maybe even Saric, but Id imagine the filler with Noel would be a lot closer to Covington stauskas or 24.

I kind of like the idea of a Noel/Olynyk front court pairing.

Oh you mean Dirk/Chandler Mega Lite?

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So Cleveland is apparently trying to get in the first round of the draft. I'm wondering if we can entice them with one or both of our later picks for Love, though they'd still probably insist upon Bradley or Crowder in the deal.

I'm very intrigued by a possible Love/Noel frontcourt added to our current team.

agreed...

Windhorst thinks Cleveland wants Bradley.

Sold.
Id imagine 3 gets you Noel and then some and Bradley + non-core piece gets you Love.

Even those who arent huge Love and Noel fans seem to be behind the idea of  a Love-Noel frontcourt because the complement eachother perfectly.

In a perfect world you get Philly to toss in that lakers or Kings pick or maybe even Saric, but Id imagine the filler with Noel would be a lot closer to Covington stauskas or 24.

I kind of like the idea of a Noel/Olynyk front court pairing.

Oh you mean Dirk/Chandler Mega Lite?

Yup, just take out the "Mega."
DKC Seventy-Sixers:

PG: G. Hill/D. Schroder
SG: C. Lee/B. Hield/T. Luwawu
SF:  Giannis/J. Lamb/M. Kuzminskas
PF:  E. Ilyasova/J. Jerebko/R. Christmas
C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson