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Lebron, Irving, Wiggins might have won 5 Ring's
« on: June 20, 2016, 03:17:58 AM »

Offline KG Living Legend

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 Holy crap after watching Kyrie become the Robin arguably the Batman in this year's title run, can you even imagine their future with a 6'8" pogostick, one of those most athletic basketball player's in the world Andrew Wiggins?

 Lebron passing too those two guys, and then dunking on someone's face whenever he feels like it, would have been one of the most unfair teams ever constructed. Oh well, at least they got an offensive rebounder for him in K Love.

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Holy crap after watching Kyrie become the Robin arguably the Batman in this year's title run, can you even imagine their future with a 6'8" pogostick, one of those most athletic basketball player's in the world Andrew Wiggins?

 Lebron passing too those two guys, and then dunking on someone's face whenever he feels like it, would have been one of the most unfair teams ever constructed. Oh well, at least they got an offensive rebounder for him in K Love.

Perhaps a wee bit of an exhageration there lol

Lets wait to see if Wiggins can actually become more then a one-dimensional player before we start getting too crazy.

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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2016, 04:08:26 AM »

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 But you do see the point Crimson.

 Love is so easy to replace, where as Wiggins has dominant scorer written all over him, and with Lebron's tutelage on defense. Wiggins and Irving in their prime with 35 year old Lebron and there still winning championships.

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As bad as he played in the series, Cavs don't win game 7 without Love. Plus, wasn't it Love guarding Curry on the last shot?

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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2016, 05:07:03 AM »

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 But you do see the point Crimson.

 Love is so easy to replace, where as Wiggins has dominant scorer written all over him, and with Lebron's tutelage on defense. Wiggins and Irving in their prime with 35 year old Lebron and there still winning championships.

Yes and no.

Love averaged around 16 - 17 PPG this season as a third option on #1 seed and also averaged somewhere around 10 rebounds a game, while offering a floor stretching ability that is pretty critical for a team like the Cavs (since Lebron cannot shoot).   

Wiggins averaged ~20 PPG on a bottom 5 team, and in all honesty he didn't offer a whole lot to his team outside of scoring.  He's not a playmaker, not much of a defender, not a great ball handler, and he's also not a very good shooter. 

Would Wiggins and Lebron on the court together even work?  Hard to say.  If it did, how much would Wiggins' scoring numbers have dropped playing behind Lebron and Kyrie?  I'd be surprised if he avearged more than around 16 PPG. 

Wiggins certainly has potential as a scorer, but for him to really make the most of that potential he's going to have to develop a respectable outside shot - not sure how long that will take, and if Lebron's window will still be open when it happens.

Also not sure about Lebron teaching Wiggins to play defense.  Lebron doesn't seem to be the greatest "mentor" type, and he doesn't have the greatest defensive effort levels either.

It's certainly interesting to think about how things might have been if Wiggins stuck around, but as much as we all love to criticise Love (myself included), the Cavs would have had a REALLY weak frontcourt if they never had him there.  Who would they have started, Thompson and Mosgov?  Does that frontcourt even work over an 82 game season and a 7 game series?  I'm not too sure.

Guess we'll never know!

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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2016, 05:30:47 AM »

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 I don't like Lebron. He's an awesome leader. He would have helped Wiggins Immensely. Wiggins is a better defender than Love.

 Thompson
 Lebron
 Wiggins
 Jr Smith
 Irving
 That  team is awesome.

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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2016, 02:44:08 PM »

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 No what. That team would have crushed it, now they have to trade Love for spare parts, when they already had the #1 pick.

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The idea that Love isn't a good player anymore is way too accepted by so many.

Wiggins has potential, but he's not good yet and might not get there. He's not near what KAT has been immediately in the league.

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I think it's kinda unfair to access Love as a "bad player" because he had a Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ty series against GSW. I think he did his fair share of contribution in the Eastern conference playoffs to help get them where they are today. Yea his value probably went down due to this series but I don't think he is a bad player. Still a rebounding machine in my opinion.

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KG doesn't hurt his knee, C's win at least 3 Rings...Bias and Lewis stay alive...C's win 3 more.
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The idea that Love isn't a good player anymore is way too accepted by so many.

Wiggins has potential, but he's not good yet and might not get there. He's not near what KAT has been immediately in the league.

You're comparing a guy still growing into his body that plays a position with a lot more responsibilities to a guy already grown into his body whose primary job is to stand underneath the net. Wiggins is developing but comparing him to KAT isn't fair. KAT is a rare, batteries included talent.

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The idea that Love isn't a good player anymore is way too accepted by so many.

Wiggins has potential, but he's not good yet and might not get there. He's not near what KAT has been immediately in the league.

You're comparing a guy still growing into his body that plays a position with a lot more responsibilities to a guy already grown into his body whose primary job is to stand underneath the net. Wiggins is developing but comparing him to KAT isn't fair. KAT is a rare, batteries included talent.
I mean the bolded portion is so wildly inaccurate to how much they asked and had KAT do on both offense and defense I don't know what to say to you other than have a nice day I think this conversation is done.

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