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Would Hield and Smart co-exist?
« on: June 18, 2016, 02:31:57 PM »

Offline green_bballers13

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I remember tough competition between the two during college. Would these guys play well together? I personally think Hield's the best shooter and wouldn't mind pulling the trigger, esp if we trade out of #3. I honestly don't see why his optimistic ceiling couldn't be close to James Harden.

I'm a huge Marcus Smart fan and want him in the fold going forward. Assuming Buddy can produce at a high level, If I were Smart, I'd get annoyed at going full tilt on defense then watching Buddy hang out by the 3pt line for an open shot. As a fan, I would love this.

Also, would there be enough room for IT, Bradley, Smart, Hield, and Rozier? With such parity in this tier, I wonder if BPA might not matter as much as finding a player that can fit in well with our foundation of guards.
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Re: Would Hield and Smart co-exist?
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2016, 02:45:49 PM »

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 Look Hield can be very good, he's a better shooter than Harden, but that's where it ends. Please note more Harden comparisons it's ridiculous.

 Harden is one of the craftiest guys I've ever seen getting to the rim, handling and drawing fouls. His euro step is the best.

 Hield's weakness is his craftiness and finishing. No comparison at the moment.



Re: Would Hield and Smart co-exist?
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2016, 03:15:52 PM »

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I think they would make a good pairing.

Re: Would Hield and Smart co-exist?
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2016, 03:25:27 PM »

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I'm all for taking hield if he slips to 16.

Re: Would Hield and Smart co-exist?
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2016, 03:26:13 PM »

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Smart is a below average offensive player and excellent defensive player. You could pair and above average offensive player with him at PG or SG and it would be a good pairing. Dunn, IT, Heild, Murray, any possibly above average offensive player will do.

Re: Would Hield and Smart co-exist?
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2016, 05:34:46 PM »

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Sure, but that doesn't mean we should take Hield #3. If we're taking a sharpshooting guard #3 it should be Murray. Much better all-around offensive game.

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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2016, 08:24:20 PM »

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Sure, but that doesn't mean we should take Hield #3. If we're taking a sharpshooting guard #3 it should be Murray. Much better all-around offensive game.

All around Offensive Game in College.. There is still a huge question about whether or not Murray will be quick enough to Get to the rack and Explosive enough to finish in NBA.. 

I feel Hield's offensive game will translate perfectly at the next level (shooters shoot) ..  And playing next to Smart would be Ideal because Smart can be the primary ball-handler with Hield  spotting up from anywhere...  Hield being a pure shooter will make him a really tough cover.  He does't have to have an all around offensive game to be an All Star or a great Scorer in the league.

Murray and Smart would make Murray the primary ball handler and Smart the 2 - which he can do but He is a better 1 offensively.

Murray I think will have a game similar to K. Irving (minus the elite handle) or Joe Johnson (minus the size)  He will be a 1 on 1 type, Ball dominate kind of player.... That's what I get when I Watch him.. 



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Re: Would Hield and Smart co-exist?
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2016, 10:08:39 PM »

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Sure, but that doesn't mean we should take Hield #3. If we're taking a sharpshooting guard #3 it should be Murray. Much better all-around offensive game.

All around Offensive Game in College.. There is still a huge question about whether or not Murray will be quick enough to Get to the rack and Explosive enough to finish in NBA.. 

I feel Hield's offensive game will translate perfectly at the next level (shooters shoot) ..  And playing next to Smart would be Ideal because Smart can be the primary ball-handler with Hield  spotting up from anywhere...  Hield being a pure shooter will make him a really tough cover.  He does't have to have an all around offensive game to be an All Star or a great Scorer in the league.

Murray and Smart would make Murray the primary ball handler and Smart the 2 - which he can do but He is a better 1 offensively.

Murray I think will have a game similar to K. Irving (minus the elite handle) or Joe Johnson (minus the size)  He will be a 1 on 1 type, Ball dominate kind of player.... That's what I get when I Watch him..

Murray is mostly an off ball scorer. He gets most of his offense coming off screens, getting the pass, and either shooting or driving to the basket. He ran some PnR in college, but it isn't clear that it will translate as his handles and passing are merely decent for an NBA SG. That would be a huge bonus if he could do that, though.

"Pure shooter" is a nice way of saying that Hield is a one-dimensional shooter. His handles are meh, athleticism meh, his passing is poor. Low ceiling, low floor.

Re: Would Hield and Smart co-exist?
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2016, 10:18:33 PM »

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Sure, but that doesn't mean we should take Hield #3. If we're taking a sharpshooting guard #3 it should be Murray. Much better all-around offensive game.

All around Offensive Game in College.. There is still a huge question about whether or not Murray will be quick enough to Get to the rack and Explosive enough to finish in NBA.. 

I feel Hield's offensive game will translate perfectly at the next level (shooters shoot) ..  And playing next to Smart would be Ideal because Smart can be the primary ball-handler with Hield  spotting up from anywhere...  Hield being a pure shooter will make him a really tough cover.  He does't have to have an all around offensive game to be an All Star or a great Scorer in the league.

Murray and Smart would make Murray the primary ball handler and Smart the 2 - which he can do but He is a better 1 offensively.

Murray I think will have a game similar to K. Irving (minus the elite handle) or Joe Johnson (minus the size)  He will be a 1 on 1 type, Ball dominate kind of player.... That's what I get when I Watch him..

Murray is mostly an off ball scorer. He gets most of his offense coming off screens, getting the pass, and either shooting or driving to the basket. He ran some PnR in college, but it isn't clear that it will translate as his handles and passing are merely decent for an NBA SG. That would be a huge bonus if he could do that, though.

"Pure shooter" is a nice way of saying that Hield is a one-dimensional shooter. His handles are meh, athleticism meh, his passing is poor. Low ceiling, low floor.

Well I dont think Hield's handle is that bad.. and The scouting reports on him really dont include the improvement he made in his last year..  He has improved every facet of his game in his Senior year- thats the knock though - he did it as a senior... in my opinion who cares as long as there is improvement..
but I dont Argue that at he may end up a one trick Pony..  that could Still have him between Reggie Miller with Rip Hamilton being the floor....  It's a heck of a Trick.
Murray could potentially improve on everything and still not have a trick to make him stand out in the league because of his Questionable athletic ability..  And I honestly dont think he has the size and Strength to be an off the ball guard.. If he is not running point he could be in serious trouble...
but again this is just my opinion.. Both kids could improve a great deal.. who knows...  I just like where Buddy is starting at.  He could be a factor Day 1

Re: Would Hield and Smart co-exist?
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2016, 10:22:14 PM »

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Smart is a below average offensive player and excellent defensive player. You could pair and above average offensive player with him at PG or SG and it would be a good pairing. Dunn, IT, Heild, Murray, any possibly above average offensive player will do.

I am not a fan of Smart's game, but I would be happier with him if we had a shooter like Hield to shoot the ball. Would really love a pure shooter in GREEN.

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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2016, 11:12:00 PM »

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I'm all for taking hield if he slips to 16.
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Re: Would Hield and Smart co-exist?
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2016, 11:23:40 PM »

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I'm all for taking hield if he slips to 16.
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why would hield fall to 16? do you have any info to make us think that it is plausible suggestion?
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Re: Would Hield and Smart co-exist?
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2016, 09:30:35 AM »

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I think the Celtics will have a tough time fitting any of those young guards in the picture right away. For one, they are guard heavy, and for another, all of these kids will need a year or two or more to develop. Even Hield. We saw how tough it was for Rozier and Hunter to get minutes this year.

Unless there's a big trade involving a guard, I don't see them drafting a guard.

I see  Brown and Bender are back in the picture--back in town this week for a 2nd look.
Aside from having a pretty good 3 in Crowder who is still on his upside, I say stay away from wings, unless a trade for Crowder is in the works. I also recall another all world wing named Brown some years back, who turned out to be a major bust. What can these kids do besides dunk? That's most of what you see in the videos.

It's a confusing situation. You got one pick, and 3 or 4 guys who bring different things to the table. And then you got a team that's looking to step up again next year. Hard to see any of these kids going to make that kind of short range difference.