'NBA stats' (70k followers) Twitter reporting Butler for #3 + AB trade imminent

[chambers]

I understand that many would love this trade to happen but I actually hope it falls through.

Butler isn't that much better than Bradley and Bradley actually fits our scheme better because he's a better shooter and perimeter defender.

In Chicago Butler has shown that he can't play off the ball and the team struggled with lineups that had him and Rose on the court at the same time. How will this be different with IT and Smart?

As much as I hate to say it, I'd prefer Love

The narrative that Bradley is almost as good as Butler is just delusional. Butler is one of the top 12-15 players in the NBA the last two seasons and is one of the best two way players around. He scores, rebounds and assist better than Bradley and he is pretty close defensively.

No one is saying that Butler's not better. The question is "by how much"?

First of all, let's not overvalue him. Curry, Westbrook, Lebron, Davis, Leonard, Durant, George, Green, Cousins and Griffin are clearly ahead of him. That's 10. Then there's Lillard, Lowry, DeRozan, IT, Klay Thompson, Harden (all O, no D), Whiteside and a few others that Butler is in with. He's probably ahead of a few of those second tier guys and behind a few.

It's obvious that he's a very, very good player. But he's not a GREAT player. Bradley is merely a good player. We know that even while Butler is the focus of his offense and Bradley is not, Butler only outproduces Bradley by 4 points, 2 boards and 2 assists per 36. He doesn't outproduce Bradley on the defensive end. So Butler is an upgrade but not an exceptional one from a statistical standpoint. People here don't give Bradley enough credit for becoming a better-than-average pro.

So if Butler isn't an incredible statistical upgrade over Bradley and he's not a defensive upgrade, then he must be a better fit in the system, right? But there's a real concern on how Butler's game fits with this team. Butler is not a great outside shooter - an area Bradley has worked his tail off to become quite good at. Butler is a slasher who can get to the line and can create his own shot. But so can IT. Because opposing players can - and almost have to - sag off Butler does that narrow the lane for IT? How does that impact the offense? It's a reasonable question. And once that's figured out, is the increase in production worth the #3 pick and increased salary cap?

I don't have all the answers to those questions. But I do know enough to at least ask them. I think a case can easily be made that due to Bradley, Butler is not worth as much to the Celtics as he is to his own team or some other team. The same case can be made that assets like the #3 pick are better spent elsewhere to get "more bang for the buck".

I think as far as two way players go, Butler is a top 10 NBA player.

He was a top 10 scorer for 80% of last season till his injury, and he's a top 10 defender.
I think that constitutes a top 10 player if you look at it that way.

[Ilikesports17]

I understand that many would love this trade to happen but I actually hope it falls through.

Butler isn't that much better than Bradley and Bradley actually fits our scheme better because he's a better shooter and perimeter defender.

In Chicago Butler has shown that he can't play off the ball and the team struggled with lineups that had him and Rose on the court at the same time. How will this be different with IT and Smart?

As much as I hate to say it, I'd prefer Love

The narrative that Bradley is almost as good as Butler is just delusional. Butler is one of the top 12-15 players in the NBA the last two seasons and is one of the best two way players around. He scores, rebounds and assist better than Bradley and he is pretty close defensively.

No one is saying that Butler's not better. The question is "by how much"?

First of all, let's not overvalue him. Curry, Westbrook, Lebron, Davis, Leonard, Durant, George, Green, Cousins and Griffin are clearly ahead of him. That's 10. Then there's Lillard, Lowry, DeRozan, IT, Klay Thompson, Harden (all O, no D), Whiteside and a few others that Butler is in with. He's probably ahead of a few of those second tier guys and behind a few.

It's obvious that he's a very, very good player. But he's not a GREAT player. Bradley is merely a good player. We know that even while Butler is the focus of his offense and Bradley is not, Butler only outproduces Bradley by 4 points, 2 boards and 2 assists per 36. He doesn't outproduce Bradley on the defensive end. So Butler is an upgrade but not an exceptional one from a statistical standpoint. People here don't give Bradley enough credit for becoming a better-than-average pro.

So if Butler isn't an incredible statistical upgrade over Bradley and he's not a defensive upgrade, then he must be a better fit in the system, right? But there's a real concern on how Butler's game fits with this team. Butler is not a great outside shooter - an area Bradley has worked his tail off to become quite good at. Butler is a slasher who can get to the line and can create his own shot. But so can IT. Because opposing players can - and almost have to - sag off Butler does that narrow the lane for IT? How does that impact the offense? It's a reasonable question. And once that's figured out, is the increase in production worth the #3 pick and increased salary cap?

I don't have all the answers to those questions. But I do know enough to at least ask them. I think a case can easily be made that due to Bradley, Butler is not worth as much to the Celtics as he is to his own team or some other team. The same case can be made that assets like the #3 pick are better spent elsewhere to get "more bang for the buck".

I think as far as two way players go, Butler is a top 10 NBA player.

He was a top 10 scorer for 80% of last season till his injury, and he's a top 10 defender.
I think that constitutes a top 10 player if you look at it that way.

No, to be a top 10 player you have to be unable to list 10 superior players
Steph, Lebron, Kawhi, Paul George, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Kevin Durant, Anthony Davis, Blake Griffin, James Harden, Demarcus Cousins, Chris Paul, Lillard, Lowry, Drummond, Wall hell even Kyrie.

Which 8 guys on that list are inferior to Butler.

[incoherent]

I understand that many would love this trade to happen but I actually hope it falls through.

Butler isn't that much better than Bradley and Bradley actually fits our scheme better because he's a better shooter and perimeter defender.

In Chicago Butler has shown that he can't play off the ball and the team struggled with lineups that had him and Rose on the court at the same time. How will this be different with IT and Smart?

As much as I hate to say it, I'd prefer Love

The narrative that Bradley is almost as good as Butler is just delusional. Butler is one of the top 12-15 players in the NBA the last two seasons and is one of the best two way players around. He scores, rebounds and assist better than Bradley and he is pretty close defensively.

No one is saying that Butler's not better. The question is "by how much"?

First of all, let's not overvalue him. Curry, Westbrook, Lebron, Davis, Leonard, Durant, George, Green, Cousins and Griffin are clearly ahead of him. That's 10. Then there's Lillard, Lowry, DeRozan, IT, Klay Thompson, Harden (all O, no D), Whiteside and a few others that Butler is in with. He's probably ahead of a few of those second tier guys and behind a few.

It's obvious that he's a very, very good player. But he's not a GREAT player. Bradley is merely a good player. We know that even while Butler is the focus of his offense and Bradley is not, Butler only outproduces Bradley by 4 points, 2 boards and 2 assists per 36. He doesn't outproduce Bradley on the defensive end. So Butler is an upgrade but not an exceptional one from a statistical standpoint. People here don't give Bradley enough credit for becoming a better-than-average pro.

So if Butler isn't an incredible statistical upgrade over Bradley and he's not a defensive upgrade, then he must be a better fit in the system, right? But there's a real concern on how Butler's game fits with this team. Butler is not a great outside shooter - an area Bradley has worked his tail off to become quite good at. Butler is a slasher who can get to the line and can create his own shot. But so can IT. Because opposing players can - and almost have to - sag off Butler does that narrow the lane for IT? How does that impact the offense? It's a reasonable question. And once that's figured out, is the increase in production worth the #3 pick and increased salary cap?

I don't have all the answers to those questions. But I do know enough to at least ask them. I think a case can easily be made that due to Bradley, Butler is not worth as much to the Celtics as he is to his own team or some other team. The same case can be made that assets like the #3 pick are better spent elsewhere to get "more bang for the buck".

I think as far as two way players go, Butler is a top 10 NBA player.

He was a top 10 scorer for 80% of last season till his injury, and he's a top 10 defender.
I think that constitutes a top 10 player if you look at it that way.

No, to be a top 10 player you have to be unable to list 10 superior players
Steph, Lebron, Kawhi, Paul George, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Kevin Durant, Anthony Davis, Blake Griffin, James Harden, Demarcus Cousins, Chris Paul, Lillard, Lowry, Drummond, Wall hell even Kyrie.

Which 8 guys on that list are inferior to Butler.

You are right.. Butler is not a top 10 player.  He definitely is a top 20 player (There's only 30 teams in the league by the way) And he could be argued as a top 15 player based on his defense.

Is that not good enough?  Seems good enough for me.

[Ilikesports17]

I understand that many would love this trade to happen but I actually hope it falls through.

Butler isn't that much better than Bradley and Bradley actually fits our scheme better because he's a better shooter and perimeter defender.

In Chicago Butler has shown that he can't play off the ball and the team struggled with lineups that had him and Rose on the court at the same time. How will this be different with IT and Smart?

As much as I hate to say it, I'd prefer Love

The narrative that Bradley is almost as good as Butler is just delusional. Butler is one of the top 12-15 players in the NBA the last two seasons and is one of the best two way players around. He scores, rebounds and assist better than Bradley and he is pretty close defensively.

No one is saying that Butler's not better. The question is "by how much"?

First of all, let's not overvalue him. Curry, Westbrook, Lebron, Davis, Leonard, Durant, George, Green, Cousins and Griffin are clearly ahead of him. That's 10. Then there's Lillard, Lowry, DeRozan, IT, Klay Thompson, Harden (all O, no D), Whiteside and a few others that Butler is in with. He's probably ahead of a few of those second tier guys and behind a few.

It's obvious that he's a very, very good player. But he's not a GREAT player. Bradley is merely a good player. We know that even while Butler is the focus of his offense and Bradley is not, Butler only outproduces Bradley by 4 points, 2 boards and 2 assists per 36. He doesn't outproduce Bradley on the defensive end. So Butler is an upgrade but not an exceptional one from a statistical standpoint. People here don't give Bradley enough credit for becoming a better-than-average pro.

So if Butler isn't an incredible statistical upgrade over Bradley and he's not a defensive upgrade, then he must be a better fit in the system, right? But there's a real concern on how Butler's game fits with this team. Butler is not a great outside shooter - an area Bradley has worked his tail off to become quite good at. Butler is a slasher who can get to the line and can create his own shot. But so can IT. Because opposing players can - and almost have to - sag off Butler does that narrow the lane for IT? How does that impact the offense? It's a reasonable question. And once that's figured out, is the increase in production worth the #3 pick and increased salary cap?

I don't have all the answers to those questions. But I do know enough to at least ask them. I think a case can easily be made that due to Bradley, Butler is not worth as much to the Celtics as he is to his own team or some other team. The same case can be made that assets like the #3 pick are better spent elsewhere to get "more bang for the buck".

I think as far as two way players go, Butler is a top 10 NBA player.

He was a top 10 scorer for 80% of last season till his injury, and he's a top 10 defender.
I think that constitutes a top 10 player if you look at it that way.

No, to be a top 10 player you have to be unable to list 10 superior players
Steph, Lebron, Kawhi, Paul George, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Kevin Durant, Anthony Davis, Blake Griffin, James Harden, Demarcus Cousins, Chris Paul, Lillard, Lowry, Drummond, Wall hell even Kyrie.

Which 8 guys on that list are inferior to Butler.

You are right.. Butler is not a top 10 player.  He definitely is a top 20 player (There's only 30 teams in the league by the way) And he could be argued as a top 15 player based on his defense.

Is that not good enough?  Seems good enough for me.

Oh I love Jimmy. I just had a problem with someone implying that a player could be worse than 10 players and still be a top 10 player.

That said, if you add Lamarcus Aldrige and Russell Westbrook to that list, you have 19 players and Im not confident saying Butler is better than any of them.

I think Id rather Jimmy than Lowry, but that might be it. I think he is in the 15-20 range. Keep in mind this also assumes that Butler is better than Karl Anthony Towns and GA, which you could completely reasonably disagree with.

[steve]

The ability to create your own shot is very valuable. You have to pay a price for that. The fact that thibs wants him shows that he's not a malcontent. He's shown he can dominate but he hasn't had the time to become a household name...Its the perfect time to trade for him.

[Smartacus]

I'm of the belief that among two way wings Jimmy Butler is third best to Kawhi and Paul George. He's better than Gordon Hayword, Kris Middleton, Chadler Parsons, Nic Batum, Demare Carroll.

On top of that though I have Kawhi above him overall, Butler is more capable of taking on a high usage scorer role than Leonard. At the risk of using a cliche, Butler has the elusive killer instinct that guys with his skill set often lack.

Sign me up for the deal, good spot for Bradley to continue to grow as a player and enough of a return for us to justify punting out this draft and using next year's pick swap to hopefully end up with the missing piece.(Harry Giles, Jason Tatum, Bam Adebayo)

[footey]

I understand that many would love this trade to happen but I actually hope it falls through.

Butler isn't that much better than Bradley and Bradley actually fits our scheme better because he's a better shooter and perimeter defender.

In Chicago Butler has shown that he can't play off the ball and the team struggled with lineups that had him and Rose on the court at the same time. How will this be different with IT and Smart?

As much as I hate to say it, I'd prefer Love

The narrative that Bradley is almost as good as Butler is just delusional. Butler is one of the top 12-15 players in the NBA the last two seasons and is one of the best two way players around. He scores, rebounds and assist better than Bradley and he is pretty close defensively.

No one is saying that Butler's not better. The question is "by how much"?

First of all, let's not overvalue him. Curry, Westbrook, Lebron, Davis, Leonard, Durant, George, Green, Cousins and Griffin are clearly ahead of him. That's 10. Then there's Lillard, Lowry, DeRozan, IT, Klay Thompson, Harden (all O, no D), Whiteside and a few others that Butler is in with. He's probably ahead of a few of those second tier guys and behind a few.

It's obvious that he's a very, very good player. But he's not a GREAT player. Bradley is merely a good player. We know that even while Butler is the focus of his offense and Bradley is not, Butler only outproduces Bradley by 4 points, 2 boards and 2 assists per 36. He doesn't outproduce Bradley on the defensive end. So Butler is an upgrade but not an exceptional one from a statistical standpoint. People here don't give Bradley enough credit for becoming a better-than-average pro.

So if Butler isn't an incredible statistical upgrade over Bradley and he's not a defensive upgrade, then he must be a better fit in the system, right? But there's a real concern on how Butler's game fits with this team. Butler is not a great outside shooter - an area Bradley has worked his tail off to become quite good at. Butler is a slasher who can get to the line and can create his own shot. But so can IT. Because opposing players can - and almost have to - sag off Butler does that narrow the lane for IT? How does that impact the offense? It's a reasonable question. And once that's figured out, is the increase in production worth the #3 pick and increased salary cap?

I don't have all the answers to those questions. But I do know enough to at least ask them. I think a case can easily be made that due to Bradley, Butler is not worth as much to the Celtics as he is to his own team or some other team. The same case can be made that assets like the #3 pick are better spent elsewhere to get "more bang for the buck".

I think as far as two way players go, Butler is a top 10 NBA player.

He was a top 10 scorer for 80% of last season till his injury, and he's a top 10 defender.
I think that constitutes a top 10 player if you look at it that way.

No, to be a top 10 player you have to be unable to list 10 superior players
Steph, Lebron, Kawhi, Paul George, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Kevin Durant, Anthony Davis, Blake Griffin, James Harden, Demarcus Cousins, Chris Paul, Lillard, Lowry, Drummond, Wall hell even Kyrie.

Which 8 guys on that list are inferior to Butler.

Kyrie, Wall, Drummond, Lowry, Paul (age), Harden (no D), Lillard (position), that's all I can come up with. So he is top 11!!

[Csfan1984]

I understand that many would love this trade to happen but I actually hope it falls through.

Butler isn't that much better than Bradley and Bradley actually fits our scheme better because he's a better shooter and perimeter defender.

In Chicago Butler has shown that he can't play off the ball and the team struggled with lineups that had him and Rose on the court at the same time. How will this be different with IT and Smart?

As much as I hate to say it, I'd prefer Love

The narrative that Bradley is almost as good as Butler is just delusional. Butler is one of the top 12-15 players in the NBA the last two seasons and is one of the best two way players around. He scores, rebounds and assist better than Bradley and he is pretty close defensively.

No one is saying that Butler's not better. The question is "by how much"?

First of all, let's not overvalue him. Curry, Westbrook, Lebron, Davis, Leonard, Durant, George, Green, Cousins and Griffin are clearly ahead of him. That's 10. Then there's Lillard, Lowry, DeRozan, IT, Klay Thompson, Harden (all O, no D), Whiteside and a few others that Butler is in with. He's probably ahead of a few of those second tier guys and behind a few.

It's obvious that he's a very, very good player. But he's not a GREAT player. Bradley is merely a good player. We know that even while Butler is the focus of his offense and Bradley is not, Butler only outproduces Bradley by 4 points, 2 boards and 2 assists per 36. He doesn't outproduce Bradley on the defensive end. So Butler is an upgrade but not an exceptional one from a statistical standpoint. People here don't give Bradley enough credit for becoming a better-than-average pro.

So if Butler isn't an incredible statistical upgrade over Bradley and he's not a defensive upgrade, then he must be a better fit in the system, right? But there's a real concern on how Butler's game fits with this team. Butler is not a great outside shooter - an area Bradley has worked his tail off to become quite good at. Butler is a slasher who can get to the line and can create his own shot. But so can IT. Because opposing players can - and almost have to - sag off Butler does that narrow the lane for IT? How does that impact the offense? It's a reasonable question. And once that's figured out, is the increase in production worth the #3 pick and increased salary cap?

I don't have all the answers to those questions. But I do know enough to at least ask them. I think a case can easily be made that due to Bradley, Butler is not worth as much to the Celtics as he is to his own team or some other team. The same case can be made that assets like the #3 pick are better spent elsewhere to get "more bang for the buck".

I think as far as two way players go, Butler is a top 10 NBA player.

He was a top 10 scorer for 80% of last season till his injury, and he's a top 10 defender.
I think that constitutes a top 10 player if you look at it that way.

No, to be a top 10 player you have to be unable to list 10 superior players
Steph, Lebron, Kawhi, Paul George, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Kevin Durant, Anthony Davis, Blake Griffin, James Harden, Demarcus Cousins, Chris Paul, Lillard, Lowry, Drummond, Wall hell even Kyrie.

Which 8 guys on that list are inferior to Butler.

Kyrie, Wall, Drummond, Lowry, Paul (age), Harden (no D), Lillard (position), that's all I can come up with. So he is top 11!!

Yeah I also see that as well as it kind of being a three way battle between Griffin, Green and Butler. So arguably top 10 for me. No doubt top 15.

[Ilikesports17]

I understand that many would love this trade to happen but I actually hope it falls through.

Butler isn't that much better than Bradley and Bradley actually fits our scheme better because he's a better shooter and perimeter defender.

In Chicago Butler has shown that he can't play off the ball and the team struggled with lineups that had him and Rose on the court at the same time. How will this be different with IT and Smart?

As much as I hate to say it, I'd prefer Love

The narrative that Bradley is almost as good as Butler is just delusional. Butler is one of the top 12-15 players in the NBA the last two seasons and is one of the best two way players around. He scores, rebounds and assist better than Bradley and he is pretty close defensively.

No one is saying that Butler's not better. The question is "by how much"?

First of all, let's not overvalue him. Curry, Westbrook, Lebron, Davis, Leonard, Durant, George, Green, Cousins and Griffin are clearly ahead of him. That's 10. Then there's Lillard, Lowry, DeRozan, IT, Klay Thompson, Harden (all O, no D), Whiteside and a few others that Butler is in with. He's probably ahead of a few of those second tier guys and behind a few.

It's obvious that he's a very, very good player. But he's not a GREAT player. Bradley is merely a good player. We know that even while Butler is the focus of his offense and Bradley is not, Butler only outproduces Bradley by 4 points, 2 boards and 2 assists per 36. He doesn't outproduce Bradley on the defensive end. So Butler is an upgrade but not an exceptional one from a statistical standpoint. People here don't give Bradley enough credit for becoming a better-than-average pro.

So if Butler isn't an incredible statistical upgrade over Bradley and he's not a defensive upgrade, then he must be a better fit in the system, right? But there's a real concern on how Butler's game fits with this team. Butler is not a great outside shooter - an area Bradley has worked his tail off to become quite good at. Butler is a slasher who can get to the line and can create his own shot. But so can IT. Because opposing players can - and almost have to - sag off Butler does that narrow the lane for IT? How does that impact the offense? It's a reasonable question. And once that's figured out, is the increase in production worth the #3 pick and increased salary cap?

I don't have all the answers to those questions. But I do know enough to at least ask them. I think a case can easily be made that due to Bradley, Butler is not worth as much to the Celtics as he is to his own team or some other team. The same case can be made that assets like the #3 pick are better spent elsewhere to get "more bang for the buck".

I think as far as two way players go, Butler is a top 10 NBA player.

He was a top 10 scorer for 80% of last season till his injury, and he's a top 10 defender.
I think that constitutes a top 10 player if you look at it that way.

No, to be a top 10 player you have to be unable to list 10 superior players
Steph, Lebron, Kawhi, Paul George, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Kevin Durant, Anthony Davis, Blake Griffin, James Harden, Demarcus Cousins, Chris Paul, Lillard, Lowry, Drummond, Wall hell even Kyrie.

Which 8 guys on that list are inferior to Butler.

Kyrie, Wall, Drummond, Lowry, Paul (age), Harden (no D), Lillard (position), that's all I can come up with. So he is top 11!!

Yeah I also see that as well as it kind of being a three way battle between Griffin, Green and Butler. So arguably top 10 for me. No doubt top 15.

I forgot about Aldridge and Westbrook and if your gonna count age than Giannis and Karl Anthony towns should be added to the list too.

[droopdog7]

Clearly this would be good trade for us.  But there is a reason AB's name is in all these trade rumors.  And it's not because DA is trying to get rid of him.  It's because he's the guy, over anyone on our roster, that teams want.

Love that dude and would hate to lose.

[Bobshot]

Clearly this would be good trade for us.  But there is a reason AB's name is in all these trade rumors.  And it's not because DA is trying to get rid of him.  It's because he's the guy, over anyone on our roster, that teams want.

Love that dude and would hate to lose.

Butler is good defensively,too, and much better offensively. So there is a net gain there. Anytime you get the best player in a deal, you're coming out ahead.

If this is real, I can see Danny using the same strategy this year as Allen-KG. Butler is Allen and KG is ? Love?  Who is Pierce? Has to be IT.

[BDeCosta26]

Clearly this would be good trade for us.  But there is a reason AB's name is in all these trade rumors.  And it's not because DA is trying to get rid of him.  It's because he's the guy, over anyone on our roster, that teams want.

Love that dude and would hate to lose.

Me too. He's one of our five best assets. He's a guy every team would love to have, and he might well be the best on-ball defender in the league. Plus he's like 25 and on a cheap deal. Crowder is of similar value.

Now would be the time to trade him though, he has an injury history, his value may not get any higher, and come next summer people will be saying "Well, he's gonna want a big payday next year"

[droopdog7]

Clearly this would be good trade for us.  But there is a reason AB's name is in all these trade rumors.  And it's not because DA is trying to get rid of him.  It's because he's the guy, over anyone on our roster, that teams want.

Love that dude and would hate to lose.

Butler is good defensively,too, and much better offensively. So there is a net gain there. Anytime you get the best player in a deal, you're coming out ahead.

If this is real, I can see Danny using the same strategy this year as Allen-KG. Butler is Allen and KG is ? Love?  Who is Pierce? Has to be IT.

No question it would be a good deal for us.

[Alleyoopster]

Clearly this would be good trade for us.  But there is a reason AB's name is in all these trade rumors.  And it's not because DA is trying to get rid of him.  It's because he's the guy, over anyone on our roster, that teams want.

Love that dude and would hate to lose.

Me too. He's one of our five best assets. He's a guy every team would love to have, and he might well be the best on-ball defender in the league. Plus he's like 25 and on a cheap deal. Crowder is of similar value.

Now would be the time to trade him though, he has an injury history, his value may not get any higher, and come next summer people will be saying "Well, he's gonna want a big payday next year"

One of Danny's talents is getting rid of the best shooters on the team. He has been incredibly consistent in this regard over the last 4 years. This type of move wouldn't surprise me at all.

Although, I have to admit Butler is better than Bradley. I just don't think he's anywhere near as good as a combination the number 3 choice, Bradley and Amir.
 
The good news is it's not Love...another David Lee. Great rebounder, once great shooter..does nothing to help the team. (Danny, please watch the Finals to see the proof.) 

[Ilikesports17]

Clearly this would be good trade for us.  But there is a reason AB's name is in all these trade rumors.  And it's not because DA is trying to get rid of him.  It's because he's the guy, over anyone on our roster, that teams want.

Love that dude and would hate to lose.

Me too. He's one of our five best assets. He's a guy every team would love to have, and he might well be the best on-ball defender in the league. Plus he's like 25 and on a cheap deal. Crowder is of similar value.

Now would be the time to trade him though, he has an injury history, his value may not get any higher, and come next summer people will be saying "Well, he's gonna want a big payday next year"

One of Danny's talents is getting rid of the best shooters on the team. He has been incredibly consistent in this regard over the last 4 years. This type of move wouldn't surprise me at all.

Although, I have to admit Butler is better than Bradley. I just don't think he's anywhere near as good as a combination the number 3 choice, Bradley and Amir.
 
The good news is it's not Love...another David Lee. Great rebounder, once great shooter..does nothing to help the team. (Danny, please watch the Finals to see the proof.)

David Lee is a career 1 for 29 3 point shooter.