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does rj hunter influence 3rd pick-how good is rj
« on: June 13, 2016, 09:44:32 AM »

Offline rollie mass

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rj can handle the ball,has great passing insticts got those long arms and a bbiq-how does he do shooting from behind a chair-how good a shooter is he really
we never see practices
,do three point shooters improve  or are they deadly from the begining
-young could shoot up in maine-
i don't understand a team that needs a three point specialist letting go of a cheap giggi-brad said he was the best shooter he had seen-
how good a shooter is staukas
marcus thornton did his job as a scorer,jarad dudley hits his threes

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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2016, 10:14:27 AM »

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RJ Hunter may not be an NBA rotation player. Definitely doesn't affect the decision at three.
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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2016, 10:41:44 AM »

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There isn't any chance that the C's will be influenced by their opinion of RJ, but I do think he could be a very valuable player. I say that because we drafted him as a guy that could become an elite shooter, and he turned out to be solid at everything but shooting.

He was a college player from a second tier conference and he isn't an elite athlete, so he has had to make a bigger adjustment than most to NBA defense, but you can plainly see the basketball intelligence the guy has. After the team's offseason moves, when the dust clears, if there is still is a slot for him, I'd guess he makes the leap to rotation player in year two.

We don't just need good shooters. We need good shooters that can play when it matters- in the second half when the best teams are making their runs and we struggle scoring, and at the end of the game. They need to be able to compete against the best teams both ways, and make shots when it counts.

There are a lot of guys floating around the NBA that can go on shooting runs in the second quarter against mediocre teams.

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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2016, 11:39:54 AM »

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 could rj become a shaun livingston type-nobody has specifically stated how good a shooter young and rj are-young shot well with red claws in his first season-why waste the time with rj if he isn't a deadly shooter-roster space is at premium and i am a rj fan--is coming to nba going to effect murray like young and rj -will heild be able to play defense and still score-staukas  picked at 8 has struggled

 

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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2016, 11:48:45 AM »

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I think Livingston's ball handling is light years beyond RJ, which would make it really hard or impossible to develop the kind of game Livingston plays.  Livingston started his career as an elite PG before he got injured. 

I will say that I wouldn't mind if some of the supposedly great 3 point shooters were allowed to shoot two as well (he doesn't have to be Livingston to get open for a two pointer), and hit a few thousand before backing up to three.  Even in a single game situation, make some dang shots first, then start letting it fly from deep.  It's weird when these guys haven't played for 4 weeks, they come in and start bricking threes and then back to the bench and back to Maine.  I'm sure the coaches have all that stuff covered though (2 point percentage, etc..).  As a fan though it strikes me as odd they don't allow more twos to get guys into a rhythm.

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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2016, 12:01:01 PM »

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rj can handle the ball,has great passing insticts got those long arms and a bbiq-how does he do shooting from behind a chair-how good a shooter is he really
we never see practices
,do three point shooters improve  or are they deadly from the begining
-young could shoot up in maine-
i don't understand a team that needs a three point specialist letting go of a cheap giggi-brad said he was the best shooter he had seen-
how good a shooter is staukas
marcus thornton did his job as a scorer,jarad dudley hits his threes

Trust me, I've seen Gigi playing in the Euroleague this year. Brad has been overgenerous. Gigi is not fit for the NBA.

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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2016, 12:04:40 PM »

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No.  Not in the least.

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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2016, 12:10:33 PM »

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could rj become a shaun livingston type-nobody has specifically stated how good a shooter young and rj are-young shot well with red claws in his first season-why waste the time with rj if he isn't a deadly shooter-roster space is at premium and i am a rj fan--is coming to nba going to effect murray like young and rj -will heild be able to play defense and still score-staukas  picked at 8 has struggled

We already have a Shaun Livingston type. His name is Evan Turner.

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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2016, 12:14:56 PM »

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I think good shooters tend to be naturals. There were always a few kids who were automatic compared to everyone else. With practice, however, most people tend to become okay or above average.

When I first heard of RJ as one of the draft picks, I was very happy. It sounded like we had stolen one of those naturals. Unfortunately, it turned out RJ Hunter is currently a chucker. He is a Marcus Thornton or Jordan Crawford. Maybe he will get hot or maybe it's about volume shooting.

What RJ has going for him is that he seems to be a natural at everything else. He looks comfortable on the court except for shooting.

James Young has the opposite problem. He is a natural at shooting, albeit he doesn't seem to shoot too well in the NBA perhaps due to nervousness.

Young looks inept at everything else other than shooting.

A lot of folks don't believe in Olynyk, but he never looked as bad as Young or Hunter. Maybe that's because he stayed in college longer. I don't know. I guess time will tell.

We do need a tall shooting guard. Isaiah is underrated on defense but is the "little guy" according to Tommy. Bradley seems too short to handle taller shooting guards. Marcus is good, but what if the other team has two tall guards and Isaiah is getting a bit flustered?

I am no expert on hoops. I can't tell if Turner is good enough at tall sg defense. If he is, then that's more reason to resign him. It would buy time for Hunter and Young or if we draft a tall sg.

I have given up on James Young, but maybe he will shock us this year and take some big steps. Most of us probably gave up on Avery Bradley his first year or two in the league and look at him now.

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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2016, 12:25:02 PM »

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Hunter is another Ainge draft miss. A spot-up chucker who can't guard a chair has no future in the league

He hasn't once crossed Ainge's mind thinking about the 3.
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2016, 12:47:53 PM »

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Naah, not in the slightest.  I like RJ's upside as a shooter.  I like him a lot more than James Young.  But he will be fighting to be a rotation player, not a starting player.  If he can sharpen up his deep ball, he can contribute sometime down the road.

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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2016, 02:17:21 PM »

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Hunter is another Ainge draft miss. A spot-up chucker who can't guard a chair has no future in the league

He hasn't once crossed Ainge's mind thinking about the 3.
James Young maybe a miss for DA FAB Melo and JJ were bad.. DA nailed Smart, AB and Sully.

RJ will play some years in this league. He will regain his stroke and he is smart on d.

 He can write too unlike the poster who started this thread.
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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2016, 03:00:56 PM »

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Hunter is another Ainge draft miss. A spot-up chucker who can't guard a chair has no future in the league

He hasn't once crossed Ainge's mind thinking about the 3.

I agree with you that RJ Hunter is no where close to being a player that would be part of the equation as to who to pick at #3 but what do you expect from the #28 pick?  If Hunter is a miss than about 90% of the players taken in that range are misses so I guess all GMs are bad drafters.

I am not suggesting that Ainge is some drafting savant but drafting is a crap shoot.  No one can hit home runs all the time or even get solid singles.  By and large, Ainge has done well getting respectable value with his picks.  He has some real misses (cough cough Melo) but I don't put Hunter in that category.  I think you are being unnecessarily critical of Ainge on this one.

You should also lighten up on Bender in my opinion.  Who knows, he might be a decent rotation player in 5 years   ;)


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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2016, 04:48:26 PM »

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Hunter is another Ainge draft miss. A spot-up chucker who can't guard a chair has no future in the league

He hasn't once crossed Ainge's mind thinking about the 3.
James Young maybe a miss for DA FAB Melo and JJ were bad.. DA nailed Smart, AB and Sully.

RJ will play some years in this league. He will regain his stroke and he is smart on d.

 He can write too unlike the poster who started this thread.

my apologies, as i am recovering from a near fatal dvt and acute pulmonary thrombosis that led to a mini stroke and damaged the fine veins in my lung effecting my breathing, then a mild heart attack a few weeks ago and today was told i'm borderline diabetic-most of my posting has been from prone position
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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2016, 04:54:15 PM »

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Hunter is another Ainge draft miss. A spot-up chucker who can't guard a chair has no future in the league

He hasn't once crossed Ainge's mind thinking about the 3.

At the 28th pick, what do you expect?