Would you trade Olynyk for the 13thpick

[Boris Badenov]

For perspective, before KO the last ten #13 picks were Kendall Marshall, Markieff Morris, Ed Davis, Tyler Hansbrough, Brandon Rush, Julian Wright, Thabo Sefolosha, Sean May, Sebastian Telfair and Marcus Banks.

KO is far superior to pretty much all of those guys.

Indeed. And even the best of the lot (Sefolosha, Davis and Morris) are in the same borderline-starter stratum as KO.

[celticmania]

Kelly is awful

[KG Living Legend]

 The point is I Just want #4 #13 #16 could CX care less about the other picks and I'm willing to include #23 31 35 to move up to #13.

In which case the title is misleading.
Anyway, to answer the title first, no, I do not think it is worth trading KO for #13. First, because he is likely more valuable than any player who will be available at #13 and second, because we already have plenty of young players and picks. IMHO even Hinkie would have reservations about trading a solid role player for a pick outside the top-10 in a mediocre class.

Now, regarding a potential trade of #23 +some second rounders for #13, yes this sounds interesting, and it is also the kind of move that would make sense for us (exchange quantity for quality).

Two reservations: first, the way this usually works is you trade the picks for a player if available at the given pick; which player do you want to trade for?

Second, the particulars never became fully publicised but we all remember DA tried a similar (almost certainly even more generous) quantity for quality deal last year and it failed. What makes you think PHX will be interested?

(As a side note, PHX already has plenty of young prospects and picks, ie they would rather have quality instead of quantity at this stage).

 I don't think Kelly is better than anyone at #13.

 Plus you have to factor in a nice cost controlled prospect for four years as opposed to paying Kelly's soft behind god knows how much in a year.

 Id take Deyonta Davis who I think will be awesome over Olynyk always at the clinic.
 And Id rather have Sabonis as well.

[guava_wrench]

I guess the OP is giving up on the idea of getting better now and bringing in a top tier player as FA or through trade.

[Eja117]

For perspective, before KO the last ten #13 picks were Kendall Marshall, Markieff Morris, Ed Davis, Tyler Hansbrough, Brandon Rush, Julian Wright, Thabo Sefolosha, Sean May, Sebastian Telfair and Marcus Banks.

KO is far superior to pretty much all of those guys.

whoop de doo.

[Eja117]

 I just want that 13th so dang bad, and we have #23 or #31 as a sweetener as well. Kelly's contract is almost up, do you really want to pay him big dollars, or would you rather have a rock solid prospect like Sabonis or high Upside guys like Deyonta Davis or Skal.

 If we can keep #16 we could come away with Murray, Sabonis and Valentine. That would bring lots of rebounding, shooting and passing to this team

Wait. Why do we think someone will pay him big dollars? If someone would do that wouldn't we have gotten a decent offer on him by now?

[nickagneta]

 I just want that 13th so dang bad, and we have #23 or #31 as a sweetener as well. Kelly's contract is almost up, do you really want to pay him big dollars, or would you rather have a rock solid prospect like Sabonis or high Upside guys like Deyonta Davis or Skal.

 If we can keep #16 we could come away with Murray, Sabonis and Valentine. That would bring lots of rebounding, shooting and passing to this team

Wait. Why do we think someone will pay him big dollars? If someone would do that wouldn't we have gotten a decent offer on him by now?

What I don't get is why he wants the 13th p[ick so bad. Does he have some information that someone is going to be available there that won't be available at 16 that is so outstandingly good that we must give up players and picks just to get that 13th pick? Makes zero sense to me.

[slamtheking]

 I just want that 13th so dang bad, and we have #23 or #31 as a sweetener as well. Kelly's contract is almost up, do you really want to pay him big dollars, or would you rather have a rock solid prospect like Sabonis or high Upside guys like Deyonta Davis or Skal.

 If we can keep #16 we could come away with Murray, Sabonis and Valentine. That would bring lots of rebounding, shooting and passing to this team

Wait. Why do we think someone will pay him big dollars? If someone would do that wouldn't we have gotten a decent offer on him by now?

What I don't get is why he wants the 13th p[ick so bad. Does he have some information that someone is going to be available there that won't be available at 16 that is so outstandingly good that we must give up players and picks just to get that 13th pick? Makes zero sense to me.

bingo.

that's the question that needs to be answered -- who's that important to grab with 13 that won't be there at 16 that will cost those assets and yet, isn't good enough to take with the #3 pick

[BDeCosta26]

For perspective, before KO the last ten #13 picks were Kendall Marshall, Markieff Morris, Ed Davis, Tyler Hansbrough, Brandon Rush, Julian Wright, Thabo Sefolosha, Sean May, Sebastian Telfair and Marcus Banks.

KO is far superior to pretty much all of those guys.

whoop de doo.

I don't see why that's insignificant? That gives you a good idea of the type of player you can expect if you make a good pick. You expect Ainge to find a superstar in that range every time?

[KG Living Legend]

 I just want that 13th so dang bad, and we have #23 or #31 as a sweetener as well. Kelly's contract is almost up, do you really want to pay him big dollars, or would you rather have a rock solid prospect like Sabonis or high Upside guys like Deyonta Davis or Skal.

 If we can keep #16 we could come away with Murray, Sabonis and Valentine. That would bring lots of rebounding, shooting and passing to this team

Wait. Why do we think someone will pay him big dollars? If someone would do that wouldn't we have gotten a decent offer on him by now?

What I don't get is why he wants the 13th p[ick so bad. Does he have some information that someone is going to be available there that won't be available at 16 that is so outstandingly good that we must give up players and picks just to get that 13th pick? Makes zero sense to me.

bingo.

that's the question that needs to be answered -- who's that important to grab with 13 that won't be there at 16 that will cost those assets and yet, isn't good enough to take with the #3 pick

 Deyonta Davis will be gone by #16 guaranteed.
 Sabonis may be gone by #16
 Valentine may be there's at #16 but I want Davis then Sabonis.

[KG Living Legend]

 Olynyk is as soft as pudding.

[CoachBo]

I don't want another draft pick. We have too many of them now.