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Re: Love "really frustrated" on Cavs' insistence that he not play Game 3
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2016, 06:49:21 PM »

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Hmmm, maybe this season ends with Cleveland and Love at serious odds with each other, allowing Danny to swoop in with a lowball offer to acquire Love, who finds himself desperate to rebuild his value and thus plays out-of-his-mind awesome for Boston the next few seasons? ;D

Thing is, if you're Cleveland, what do you want from Boston for Love?

I think the answer is probably Avery Bradley and Jae Crowder. Maybe Marcus Smart as well.

Love is nice, but does it make sense for the Celts to unload basically their entire wing rotation minus Evan Turner to get him?

No, I don't think so.  I mean, maybe if you then went ahead and signed Kevin Durant and Dwight Howard, that would work out just fine.  Doesn't seem very likely to me, though.

Sorry Bradley, Smart and Crowder is a delusional offer for Love at this point. Love's value is very low right now than if nothing else he has really been exposed on defense over the last two years and his athleticism looks to be decreasing also.

Re: Love "really frustrated" on Cavs' insistence that he not play Game 3
« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2016, 06:49:31 PM »

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Hmmm, maybe this season ends with Cleveland and Love at serious odds with each other, allowing Danny to swoop in with a lowball offer to acquire Love, who finds himself desperate to rebuild his value and thus plays out-of-his-mind awesome for Boston the next few seasons? ;D

Thing is, if you're Cleveland, what do you want from Boston for Love?

I think the answer is probably Avery Bradley and Jae Crowder. Maybe Marcus Smart as well.

Love is nice, but does it make sense for the Celts to unload basically their entire wing rotation minus Evan Turner to get him?

No, I don't think so.  I mean, maybe if you then went ahead and signed Kevin Durant and Dwight Howard, that would work out just fine.  Doesn't seem very likely to me, though.

I think it has to be a 3-team trade.

Boston sends Crowder to Cleveland, picks to third team; third team sends starting-caliber PF to Cleveland.

Re: Love "really frustrated" on Cavs' insistence that he not play Game 3
« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2016, 06:56:11 PM »

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I don't read that as Love is cleared to play.  Concussions often appear somewhat invisible -- that's why the decision needs to be taken completely out of players' hands.  Love, like most competitors, thinks he's well enough to play, and wants to play accordingly.  But that doesn't mean he's okay to play.

Yeah, this tweet made it seem like he WAS cleared to play, where other sources are saying he actually didn't pass the protocol. I think part of it was because it was called so early in the day, and Love was frustrated about that and not being able to play in general.
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Re: Love "really frustrated" on Cavs' insistence that he not play Game 3
« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2016, 07:00:01 PM »

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Hmmm, maybe this season ends with Cleveland and Love at serious odds with each other, allowing Danny to swoop in with a lowball offer to acquire Love, who finds himself desperate to rebuild his value and thus plays out-of-his-mind awesome for Boston the next few seasons? ;D

Thing is, if you're Cleveland, what do you want from Boston for Love?

I think the answer is probably Avery Bradley and Jae Crowder. Maybe Marcus Smart as well.

Love is nice, but does it make sense for the Celts to unload basically their entire wing rotation minus Evan Turner to get him?

No, I don't think so.  I mean, maybe if you then went ahead and signed Kevin Durant and Dwight Howard, that would work out just fine.  Doesn't seem very likely to me, though.

Good point; we definitely don't want any one area of the team to be depleted. I guess it depends on what other deals Danny has lined up, and what his draft plans are.

I suppose Danny could also throw some draft picks Cleveland's way, since the Cavs draft situation probably isn't very good in the next few years?
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Re: Love "really frustrated" on Cavs' insistence that he not play Game 3
« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2016, 07:00:15 PM »

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The protocol is the protocol, its out of the Cavs hands if he failed it. The NBA put it in place to protect the long term health of players. The legal repercussions to them if he played and got some serious issues afterwards are too huge to consider them letting it slip.

Re: Love "really frustrated" on Cavs' insistence that he not play Game 3
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2016, 07:00:34 PM »

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Hmmm, maybe this season ends with Cleveland and Love at serious odds with each other, allowing Danny to swoop in with a lowball offer to acquire Love, who finds himself desperate to rebuild his value and thus plays out-of-his-mind awesome for Boston the next few seasons? ;D

Thing is, if you're Cleveland, what do you want from Boston for Love?

I think the answer is probably Avery Bradley and Jae Crowder. Maybe Marcus Smart as well.

Love is nice, but does it make sense for the Celts to unload basically their entire wing rotation minus Evan Turner to get him?

No, I don't think so.  I mean, maybe if you then went ahead and signed Kevin Durant and Dwight Howard, that would work out just fine.  Doesn't seem very likely to me, though.

I think it has to be a 3-team trade.

Boston sends Crowder to Cleveland, picks to third team; third team sends starting-caliber PF to Cleveland.

Melo to CLE, Love to BOS, and #3 pick/Amir/Young/Hunter to NYK.
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Re: Love "really frustrated" on Cavs' insistence that he not play Game 3
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2016, 07:09:34 PM »

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The protocol is the protocol, its out of the Cavs hands if he failed it. The NBA put it in place to protect the long term health of players. The legal repercussions to them if he played and got some serious issues afterwards are too huge to consider them letting it slip.

It's technically not completely out of the Cavs hands.  The team doctor has the final call, unlike in the NFL where an independent neurologist has the call.

Re: Love "really frustrated" on Cavs' insistence that he not play Game 3
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2016, 07:19:31 PM »

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Hmmm, maybe this season ends with Cleveland and Love at serious odds with each other, allowing Danny to swoop in with a lowball offer to acquire Love, who finds himself desperate to rebuild his value and thus plays out-of-his-mind awesome for Boston the next few seasons? ;D

Thing is, if you're Cleveland, what do you want from Boston for Love?

I think the answer is probably Avery Bradley and Jae Crowder. Maybe Marcus Smart as well.

Love is nice, but does it make sense for the Celts to unload basically their entire wing rotation minus Evan Turner to get him?

No, I don't think so.  I mean, maybe if you then went ahead and signed Kevin Durant and Dwight Howard, that would work out just fine.  Doesn't seem very likely to me, though.

I think it has to be a 3-team trade.

Boston sends Crowder to Cleveland, picks to third team; third team sends starting-caliber PF to Cleveland.

Melo to CLE, Love to BOS, and #3 pick/Amir/Young/Hunter to NYK.

People here will probably freak but that seems fair to me.

Re: Love "really frustrated" on Cavs' insistence that he not play Game 3
« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2016, 07:37:24 PM »

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Hmmm, maybe this season ends with Cleveland and Love at serious odds with each other, allowing Danny to swoop in with a lowball offer to acquire Love, who finds himself desperate to rebuild his value and thus plays out-of-his-mind awesome for Boston the next few seasons? ;D

Thing is, if you're Cleveland, what do you want from Boston for Love?

I think the answer is probably Avery Bradley and Jae Crowder. Maybe Marcus Smart as well.

Love is nice, but does it make sense for the Celts to unload basically their entire wing rotation minus Evan Turner to get him?

No, I don't think so.  I mean, maybe if you then went ahead and signed Kevin Durant and Dwight Howard, that would work out just fine.  Doesn't seem very likely to me, though.

I think it has to be a 3-team trade.

Boston sends Crowder to Cleveland, picks to third team; third team sends starting-caliber PF to Cleveland.

Melo to CLE, Love to BOS, and #3 pick/Amir/Young/Hunter to NYK.

People here will probably freak but that seems fair to me.

Do you feel that this team with Love can beat A team with Bron and Melo?

Re: Love "really frustrated" on Cavs' insistence that he not play Game 3
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2016, 07:59:56 PM »

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Hmmm, maybe this season ends with Cleveland and Love at serious odds with each other, allowing Danny to swoop in with a lowball offer to acquire Love, who finds himself desperate to rebuild his value and thus plays out-of-his-mind awesome for Boston the next few seasons? ;D

Thing is, if you're Cleveland, what do you want from Boston for Love?

I think the answer is probably Avery Bradley and Jae Crowder. Maybe Marcus Smart as well.

Love is nice, but does it make sense for the Celts to unload basically their entire wing rotation minus Evan Turner to get him?

No, I don't think so.  I mean, maybe if you then went ahead and signed Kevin Durant and Dwight Howard, that would work out just fine.  Doesn't seem very likely to me, though.

Sorry Bradley, Smart and Crowder is a delusional offer for Love at this point. Love's value is very low right now than if nothing else he has really been exposed on defense over the last two years and his athleticism looks to be decreasing also.

I agree that Bradley and crowder is too much to give up for Love, let alone throwing smart in as a well.

I just don't see the Cavs trading him for anything else the Celts have. The Cavs don't need picks. They need quality rotation players who can defend and hit open shots.
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Re: Love "really frustrated" on Cavs' insistence that he not play Game 3
« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2016, 08:02:12 PM »

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Hmmm, maybe this season ends with Cleveland and Love at serious odds with each other, allowing Danny to swoop in with a lowball offer to acquire Love, who finds himself desperate to rebuild his value and thus plays out-of-his-mind awesome for Boston the next few seasons? ;D

Thing is, if you're Cleveland, what do you want from Boston for Love?

I think the answer is probably Avery Bradley and Jae Crowder. Maybe Marcus Smart as well.

Love is nice, but does it make sense for the Celts to unload basically their entire wing rotation minus Evan Turner to get him?

No, I don't think so.  I mean, maybe if you then went ahead and signed Kevin Durant and Dwight Howard, that would work out just fine.  Doesn't seem very likely to me, though.

I think it has to be a 3-team trade.

Boston sends Crowder to Cleveland, picks to third team; third team sends starting-caliber PF to Cleveland.

Melo to CLE, Love to BOS, and #3 pick/Amir/Young/Hunter to NYK.

People here will probably freak but that seems fair to me.

I'd be fine with that a couple years ago but giving up a top five pick for the last few star years of Melo doesn't sit right with me, especially with his trade kicker.
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Re: Love "really frustrated" on Cavs' insistence that he not play Game 3
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2016, 08:06:21 PM »

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Hmmm, maybe this season ends with Cleveland and Love at serious odds with each other, allowing Danny to swoop in with a lowball offer to acquire Love, who finds himself desperate to rebuild his value and thus plays out-of-his-mind awesome for Boston the next few seasons? ;D

Thing is, if you're Cleveland, what do you want from Boston for Love?

I think the answer is probably Avery Bradley and Jae Crowder. Maybe Marcus Smart as well.

Love is nice, but does it make sense for the Celts to unload basically their entire wing rotation minus Evan Turner to get him?

No, I don't think so.  I mean, maybe if you then went ahead and signed Kevin Durant and Dwight Howard, that would work out just fine.  Doesn't seem very likely to me, though.

It's probably not that much now. I think it would be something like
Bradley+Johnson for Love. They'd probably insist on Crowder and then have Lebron play the PF, but I think Crowder is too valuable to us until we get a replacement top 10 SF.
Bradley can come in and be a better JR Smith for them. Amir can be a back up 4 or 5 and provide defensive insurance and they can start Frye instead of Love.

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Re: Love "really frustrated" on Cavs' insistence that he not play Game 3
« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2016, 08:09:45 PM »

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Hmmm, maybe this season ends with Cleveland and Love at serious odds with each other, allowing Danny to swoop in with a lowball offer to acquire Love, who finds himself desperate to rebuild his value and thus plays out-of-his-mind awesome for Boston the next few seasons? ;D

Thing is, if you're Cleveland, what do you want from Boston for Love?

I think the answer is probably Avery Bradley and Jae Crowder. Maybe Marcus Smart as well.

Love is nice, but does it make sense for the Celts to unload basically their entire wing rotation minus Evan Turner to get him?

No, I don't think so.  I mean, maybe if you then went ahead and signed Kevin Durant and Dwight Howard, that would work out just fine.  Doesn't seem very likely to me, though.

I think it has to be a 3-team trade.

Boston sends Crowder to Cleveland, picks to third team; third team sends starting-caliber PF to Cleveland.

Melo to CLE, Love to BOS, and #3 pick/Amir/Young/Hunter to NYK.

Absolutely not.  That's a horrible trade for us, imo.  Not because of who we're trading, but because of what we'd be losing in the third pick.

Re: Love "really frustrated" on Cavs' insistence that he not play Game 3
« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2016, 08:17:53 PM »

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Hmmm, maybe this season ends with Cleveland and Love at serious odds with each other, allowing Danny to swoop in with a lowball offer to acquire Love, who finds himself desperate to rebuild his value and thus plays out-of-his-mind awesome for Boston the next few seasons? ;D

Thing is, if you're Cleveland, what do you want from Boston for Love?

I think the answer is probably Avery Bradley and Jae Crowder. Maybe Marcus Smart as well.

Love is nice, but does it make sense for the Celts to unload basically their entire wing rotation minus Evan Turner to get him?

No, I don't think so.  I mean, maybe if you then went ahead and signed Kevin Durant and Dwight Howard, that would work out just fine.  Doesn't seem very likely to me, though.

I think it has to be a 3-team trade.

Boston sends Crowder to Cleveland, picks to third team; third team sends starting-caliber PF to Cleveland.

Melo to CLE, Love to BOS, and #3 pick/Amir/Young/Hunter to NYK.

People here will probably freak but that seems fair to me.

I'd be fine with that a couple years ago but giving up a top five pick for the last few star years of Melo doesn't sit right with me, especially with his trade kicker.

We'd be getting Love.

Re: Love "really frustrated" on Cavs' insistence that he not play Game 3
« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2016, 08:18:35 PM »

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Hmmm, maybe this season ends with Cleveland and Love at serious odds with each other, allowing Danny to swoop in with a lowball offer to acquire Love, who finds himself desperate to rebuild his value and thus plays out-of-his-mind awesome for Boston the next few seasons? ;D

Thing is, if you're Cleveland, what do you want from Boston for Love?

I think the answer is probably Avery Bradley and Jae Crowder. Maybe Marcus Smart as well.

Love is nice, but does it make sense for the Celts to unload basically their entire wing rotation minus Evan Turner to get him?

No, I don't think so.  I mean, maybe if you then went ahead and signed Kevin Durant and Dwight Howard, that would work out just fine.  Doesn't seem very likely to me, though.

I think it has to be a 3-team trade.

Boston sends Crowder to Cleveland, picks to third team; third team sends starting-caliber PF to Cleveland.

Melo to CLE, Love to BOS, and #3 pick/Amir/Young/Hunter to NYK.

People here will probably freak but that seems fair to me.

Do you feel that this team with Love can beat A team with Bron and Melo?

No way. We'd need another All-NBA level talent.