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It could boil down to whether Westbrook stays or goes elsewhere. I'm sure that will be worked out before Durant has to make his decision. Durant will likely stay if Westbrook stays. If Westbrook goes, Durant will probably go--but not necessarily where Westbrook goes. He will likely go where he thinks he has the best chance of making an impact to win a Championship.

Yeah I think OKC has a lot on their plate and will have to look at every option. Really the only thing OKC has to do is bring one guy in and they got it. There's a bunch of impact players in this years FA market that OKC can sign as that 3rd guy to take them over the top.

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I think it is entirely possible that Westbrook tells Durant to go do whatever he has to do because he is heading to a west coast team when he is a free agent. 

I also think it is entirely possible Durant wants to go to a team where there are good players, but he is the unquestioned top dog and he gets the ball on offense wherever he wants it. 

I think it is possible Durant has friends around the NBA that he really would like to play with who are good, but not the kind of superstars that would make any doubt it is Durant's team, like Horford and IT.

I think it is probably Durant respects the heck out of coach Stevens and would be very interested in playing for him.  The word seems to have gotten around that Stevens is a players coach and also very respected by other coaches... POP comes to mind.

I think it is possible Durant values a team with a tradition unlike any other save maybe the Lakers who are in a pretty bad hole atm and if they draft Ingram there will be some position redundancy.

It seems possible to me Durant sees how tough the West is going to be for the next 5-10 years and thinks to himself, I need to get into the Eastern Conference.  It also seems very possible there aren't many good long term spots to go in the East.  Miami has Bosh who's career might be over and DWade, whose superstar status seems over.  Other than that, maybe Indiana?  I doubt Durant would stoop to joining Lebron's team in Cleveland.  No team in the East has a brighter looking future than the Celtics, who happen to have the defensive guards to match up with a Golden State.

So if you say there is 0% chance Durant would want to come to Boston I'd say that is ridiculous.  Boston is a superstar and another good player away from title contention.  Durant could easily see how both those spots get filled.

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With the cap going up. Don't see many players moving of significance.  Trades are less likely to happen, too. We can talk about a Phily big Butler and cousins but I don't see it happening. Hoiberg needs Buttler and Sac wants to give boogie a run with the new coach. I see Phily trading with Atlanta before us. So we can hope for some true trades but our best bet is for us to see if we can get 3 top 15 picks and sign JJ and Amir and wait till Feb deadline to make our move.
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Yes I see you brought up some good points. I'm not opposed to the thought of KD signing here just to make that clear. Matter of fact I'd be ecstatic if it were to happen. I love my Boston Celtics. But there are some underlined issues at play here. One being that Danny would have to go out and give up the future to acquire a player that's on Durant's list. Who or what that will cost is the million dollar question. Two, Durant would not want to leave the OKC area. He's moved most of his family there although some still live just north of DC but his closest family are right by his side. I don't see him uprooting his family to move to Boston. He's not a guy who likes much change. Although I do agree that the situation the Celtics are in as far as being noticed as the most likely destination as far as stability goes, and would be the best place for him to be the main guy, I still don't see Durant making that move. Just to add, Durant values his #35 and that number means more then anything to him. He is not gonna change his number to be in Boston and they are not gonna unretire Reggie Lewis number so he can wear it. That number was, is and always will be his driving force. And I know 0% chance is a lot to a sure him not walking through that door but that's how confident I am that Kevin Durant is really not walking through that door.
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That's why getting Okafor is such a great deal. Especially if we do a package for Okafor and Covington/Grant for the #3 pick and gar****e.

If This happened and I was Ainge I would try to offer MIL a trade for based around IT for Jabari. IMO Jabari is undervalued bc of his 3point attemtps/makes. But like Okafor he has a great stroke and IMO will get that 3-point shot(he shot very well from 3 at Duke even from NBA range).

It's all opinion and personally scouting but I believe with Okafor and Jabari on our team they will give CBS the elite talent and give us a decade of a solid foundation for winning.

Edit: Does anyone know if it is possible to trade with BKN to get their pick for 2017 outright? So we would have our pick and BKN's pick for 2017. We don't even have to use both picks to draft but they could be very valuable to the right team because the draft is very deep till the top 10 and past.
If we do trade for Okafor and Jabari for the #3 and IT I really would have to take back everything I said about Ainge and give him props because not only did we have winnign seasons and show off CBS but even if we tanked for the last 2 seasons we still prob would not have ended up with  Jabari and Okafor
Interesting. Isaiah for Parker.

It actually makes a lot of sense for Milwaukee. They have Giannis at the 3. They have a ton of length in the backcourt (Middleton and MCW) and Isaiah really helps them with spacing. Hes a far better shooter than MCW and Parker.

As for us, it makes sense in that Jabari is an elite scoring talent who still projects as a terrific scorer. Now adding Jahlil and Jabari gives us arguably the two most talented scorers to come out of the draft since Kyrie Irving (Towns Wiggins Embiid Davis etc were all superior prospects and overall talents, but in terms of scoring talent I think they are the two best).

Plus they are really young players allowing Brad to grow with them and gives the Celts an opportunity for a long window of contention. Furthermore they have 2 and 3 years left on rookie deals allowing us to add more big pieces before their contracts explode.

Plus with elite high character defenders under team control (Bradley, Smart, Crowder) their defensive issues could be hidden and its not inconceivable that their leadership along with Brads defensive focus could really help these guys become solid defenders.

So why wouldnt we do it? Well the first reason is pretty debatable, but here it is. Trading Isaiah is a bad look. Danny has been hyping him up as the "face of the franchise" they have him out there recruiting guys for us etc etc. It could hurt team chemistry and would almost certainly damage Danny's reputation around the league. However, you do need elite talent to win at this level and Danny should always be willing to sacrifice a bit of team chemistry and his rep in order to put that elite talent in place.

As you say, theres reason to believe Parker and Okafor could develop into decent shooters, but right now they are both poor shooters. Presumably you would see a lot of Marcus Smart Avery Bradley Jabari Parker Jae Crowder Jahlil Okafor lineups and that puts 3 really poor shooters on the floor with Crowder and Bradley neither of whom are exactly elite shooters. I think these moves would really hurt the on court product next year. The spacing would be terrible and as good as Jahlil and Jabari are as scorers I dont think either is ready to really carry the load.

My conclusion. Adding elite talent like that is hard to pass up especially when you can get guys on rookie contracts. The only concern I would have is that even if Jahlil and Jabari improve, you are going to have spacing issues. You would need to make a hard drive at acquiring as many shooters as you can to surround your core  5 of Smart Bradley Parker Crowder Okafor. Maybe thats in the form of an overpay for a guy like Ryan Anderson? maybe you pray for some Kelly consistency? maybe we see more Jonas? Who knows? maybe trade Brooklyn '17 to try to get Hield or Murray?
Middleton is also a sg/sf and is 6'8.5'' tall. That's one of the reasons it makes sense to me.

Also, I do not in any way buy that IT is untouchable for any reason. IT just so happens to be the only one on the team that can create his own offense and I get that he is recruiting people to come here, but you don't think Jabari and Okafor could be faces of the franchise and could convince Duke/Chicago guys to come here. IT has 2 years on his deal and who knows what he willcommand in FA and if it is even worth it to resign him bc of his hieght/age combo(idk). Okafor would cost the #3 pick and if we trade for Jabari after that I am almost certain everyone will not only understand and be excited, but Jabari and Okafor would be the new faces of the franchise.

Anyways, saying we can't get 2 legit possible MVP type talents because of IT is really only looking at the next 2 years, which I got from your post because it seemed like you were very concerned with the product of next years team. And its your opinion that they are poor shooters but IMO they have great strokes and were rookies with many variables also to consider.

If the 2 rookies Jabari and Okafor come out in their 2nd year as improved shooters(Jabari from 3 and Okafor from 15 and in) which IMO is very likely then you have to say we would be a very dam good team. Especially with the right people around them(i'll get into later)

As far as trading for:
Jahlil and maybe covington/Grant
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Jabari
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IT

2 years ago I could not have planned it better myself. Back then I made a thread something like "make a dynasty in 3 years" basically is was outlining how I saw Towns and Ingram and Dennis Smith Jr, Bam Bam, and deandre Ayton as sure things and most were not even in the top 8 in mocks.
But then Stevens would not have showed us what he can do. And it is partly because of Stevens that IMO the Jabari and Okafor team would not only work, but thrive for a decade. Both are essentially rookies and both IMO are going to get much better. Okafor and Jabari are quite similiar if you boil it down to their shooting. They both already have a great shooting stroke but bc of many variiables have not taken the fga/fgm from 3(Jabari) and from 15ft(Okafor).

PLEASE WATCH THE YOUTUBE VIDS I SELECTED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tyUk9B5_mg     jabari
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiQt5bWcg7E    jabari
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZihwmQ3PaC8   Jahlil

OBV in order to put the best team on the floor we will need to to obvios things but they are possible, and give us the opportunity to grow with a young core and add pieces.They will need a 2-way back-court that can hit the 3(Jabari WILL be hitting 3's and soon) and play great d. Also a 4 that can at least hit out to 19ft and is a defensive minded player. Puting the team around these 2 will be the hard part but we have the pieces to do it.

After trading for Jabari and Okafor we would still have these assets:
Crowder
Avery
Smart
KO
BKN 17' more favorable
BKN 18'

Personally if I was Danny I would be looking for solid pieces I can put around them(Oak and Jabari) for longterm or to trade after a productive season for long-term. Crowder, Avery, and KO would be getting traded and IMO they really would fetch us a lot. I would keep Crowder but honestly he is not IMO a strict 4 and we would lose on his efficiency. I would keep Smart, although his shooting from 3 is up and down and down overall from last year....he has everything else you want in a player and on a rookie contract. I would let him finally be the primary point and let him defend the point because Avery would be replaced with a longer and taller 2.

Avery Bradley: Replace with RFA Allen Crabbe. We would try to sign him but if that does not work we could try a sign and trade. Crabbe is a legit 3-point threat and a beast defensively. He has a 6'11.25'' wingspan, 8'7.5'' standing reach and stands 6'5.25'' w/o shoes, almost 6'7'' with shoes. IMO after his breakout year, playing next to CJ and Lillard, he reminds me of the path Jimmy Butler took and Middleton, although he has not shown the passing ability or rebounding but is his own player.

The rest I could not say. I know that I would trade AB though and replace him with someone like Crabbe, a better 3-point shooting gaurd with much more hieght and length and still can hold a candle to Avery defensively.

If Danny traded KO, Crowder and Avery for something of high value idk but lets just say we take them out entirely for next year. And lets say we draft:Tim Luwawu, Thon, Caris Levert, and etc.

Smart
Allen Crabbe
Jabari Parker
Robert Covington
Jahlil Okafor

That's not better than this years team but CBS just may mold it into a playoff team. Especially with improved shooting from Okafor and Jabari.

Also maybe there is a chance we could do a trade with BKN to so we can have our pick and BKN's pick next year idk.




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Off Topic a bit:

We've heard about players Durant would want to play with if he moved to another team.
He should also give Ok. City a list of players he would like have join the Thunder if he's going to stay
longterm (beyond just next year).  Who should Durant be bugging Thunder management to add?

1st choice: Smart   to guard Steph and Klay (and Andre), and etc...maybe even to play point at times when Westbrook gets out of control. (westbrook at 2).
2cnd choice:  Bradley   to guard Steph.

Both players would allow the Thunder to take out the Warriors next year in the WCF.

So, what would/can the Thunder offer the Celtics to make it a reality???

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I doubt Durant leaves OKC this summer, but I think the Celtics have at least as good and probably a better chance of signing him than the Wizards do.  Does anyone disagree with that take?
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I doubt Durant leaves OKC this summer, but I think the Celtics have at least as good and probably a better chance of signing him than the Wizards do.  Does anyone disagree with that take?

When I say 0% chance I'm talking about this summer. Now I do believe there's a much higher chance he could sign on to Boston next summer if indeed he does go the 2 year route with the 2nd year player opt out. What Durant coming to Boston for a visit could be is a plan to map out who Danny picks up this year in FA. He could lay down the framework that he wants Danny to do. Kind of like what Lebron did with Cleveland. It may be a two year in the planning. I just don't see him coming this Summer.

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That's why getting Okafor is such a great deal. Especially if we do a package for Okafor and Covington/Grant for the #3 pick and gar****e.

If This happened and I was Ainge I would try to offer MIL a trade for based around IT for Jabari. IMO Jabari is undervalued bc of his 3point attemtps/makes. But like Okafor he has a great stroke and IMO will get that 3-point shot(he shot very well from 3 at Duke even from NBA range).

It's all opinion and personally scouting but I believe with Okafor and Jabari on our team they will give CBS the elite talent and give us a decade of a solid foundation for winning.

Edit: Does anyone know if it is possible to trade with BKN to get their pick for 2017 outright? So we would have our pick and BKN's pick for 2017. We don't even have to use both picks to draft but they could be very valuable to the right team because the draft is very deep till the top 10 and past.
If we do trade for Okafor and Jabari for the #3 and IT I really would have to take back everything I said about Ainge and give him props because not only did we have winnign seasons and show off CBS but even if we tanked for the last 2 seasons we still prob would not have ended up with  Jabari and Okafor
Interesting. Isaiah for Parker.

It actually makes a lot of sense for Milwaukee. They have Giannis at the 3. They have a ton of length in the backcourt (Middleton and MCW) and Isaiah really helps them with spacing. Hes a far better shooter than MCW and Parker.

As for us, it makes sense in that Jabari is an elite scoring talent who still projects as a terrific scorer. Now adding Jahlil and Jabari gives us arguably the two most talented scorers to come out of the draft since Kyrie Irving (Towns Wiggins Embiid Davis etc were all superior prospects and overall talents, but in terms of scoring talent I think they are the two best).

Plus they are really young players allowing Brad to grow with them and gives the Celts an opportunity for a long window of contention. Furthermore they have 2 and 3 years left on rookie deals allowing us to add more big pieces before their contracts explode.

Plus with elite high character defenders under team control (Bradley, Smart, Crowder) their defensive issues could be hidden and its not inconceivable that their leadership along with Brads defensive focus could really help these guys become solid defenders.

So why wouldnt we do it? Well the first reason is pretty debatable, but here it is. Trading Isaiah is a bad look. Danny has been hyping him up as the "face of the franchise" they have him out there recruiting guys for us etc etc. It could hurt team chemistry and would almost certainly damage Danny's reputation around the league. However, you do need elite talent to win at this level and Danny should always be willing to sacrifice a bit of team chemistry and his rep in order to put that elite talent in place.

As you say, theres reason to believe Parker and Okafor could develop into decent shooters, but right now they are both poor shooters. Presumably you would see a lot of Marcus Smart Avery Bradley Jabari Parker Jae Crowder Jahlil Okafor lineups and that puts 3 really poor shooters on the floor with Crowder and Bradley neither of whom are exactly elite shooters. I think these moves would really hurt the on court product next year. The spacing would be terrible and as good as Jahlil and Jabari are as scorers I dont think either is ready to really carry the load.

My conclusion. Adding elite talent like that is hard to pass up especially when you can get guys on rookie contracts. The only concern I would have is that even if Jahlil and Jabari improve, you are going to have spacing issues. You would need to make a hard drive at acquiring as many shooters as you can to surround your core  5 of Smart Bradley Parker Crowder Okafor. Maybe thats in the form of an overpay for a guy like Ryan Anderson? maybe you pray for some Kelly consistency? maybe we see more Jonas? Who knows? maybe trade Brooklyn '17 to try to get Hield or Murray?
Middleton is also a sg/sf and is 6'8.5'' tall. That's one of the reasons it makes sense to me.

Also, I do not in any way buy that IT is untouchable for any reason. IT just so happens to be the only one on the team that can create his own offense and I get that he is recruiting people to come here, but you don't think Jabari and Okafor could be faces of the franchise and could convince Duke/Chicago guys to come here. IT has 2 years on his deal and who knows what he willcommand in FA and if it is even worth it to resign him bc of his hieght/age combo(idk). Okafor would cost the #3 pick and if we trade for Jabari after that I am almost certain everyone will not only understand and be excited, but Jabari and Okafor would be the new faces of the franchise.

Anyways, saying we can't get 2 legit possible MVP type talents because of IT is really only looking at the next 2 years, which I got from your post because it seemed like you were very concerned with the product of next years team. And its your opinion that they are poor shooters but IMO they have great strokes and were rookies with many variables also to consider.

If the 2 rookies Jabari and Okafor come out in their 2nd year as improved shooters(Jabari from 3 and Okafor from 15 and in) which IMO is very likely then you have to say we would be a very dam good team. Especially with the right people around them(i'll get into later)

As far as trading for:
Jahlil and maybe covington/Grant
4
#3

Jabari
4
IT

2 years ago I could not have planned it better myself. Back then I made a thread something like "make a dynasty in 3 years" basically is was outlining how I saw Towns and Ingram and Dennis Smith Jr, Bam Bam, and deandre Ayton as sure things and most were not even in the top 8 in mocks.
But then Stevens would not have showed us what he can do. And it is partly because of Stevens that IMO the Jabari and Okafor team would not only work, but thrive for a decade. Both are essentially rookies and both IMO are going to get much better. Okafor and Jabari are quite similiar if you boil it down to their shooting. They both already have a great shooting stroke but bc of many variiables have not taken the fga/fgm from 3(Jabari) and from 15ft(Okafor).

PLEASE WATCH THE YOUTUBE VIDS I SELECTED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tyUk9B5_mg     jabari
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiQt5bWcg7E    jabari
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZihwmQ3PaC8   Jahlil

OBV in order to put the best team on the floor we will need to to obvios things but they are possible, and give us the opportunity to grow with a young core and add pieces.They will need a 2-way back-court that can hit the 3(Jabari WILL be hitting 3's and soon) and play great d. Also a 4 that can at least hit out to 19ft and is a defensive minded player. Puting the team around these 2 will be the hard part but we have the pieces to do it.

After trading for Jabari and Okafor we would still have these assets:
Crowder
Avery
Smart
KO
BKN 17' more favorable
BKN 18'

Personally if I was Danny I would be looking for solid pieces I can put around them(Oak and Jabari) for longterm or to trade after a productive season for long-term. Crowder, Avery, and KO would be getting traded and IMO they really would fetch us a lot. I would keep Crowder but honestly he is not IMO a strict 4 and we would lose on his efficiency. I would keep Smart, although his shooting from 3 is up and down and down overall from last year....he has everything else you want in a player and on a rookie contract. I would let him finally be the primary point and let him defend the point because Avery would be replaced with a longer and taller 2.

Avery Bradley: Replace with RFA Allen Crabbe. We would try to sign him but if that does not work we could try a sign and trade. Crabbe is a legit 3-point threat and a beast defensively. He has a 6'11.25'' wingspan, 8'7.5'' standing reach and stands 6'5.25'' w/o shoes, almost 6'7'' with shoes. IMO after his breakout year, playing next to CJ and Lillard, he reminds me of the path Jimmy Butler took and Middleton, although he has not shown the passing ability or rebounding but is his own player.

The rest I could not say. I know that I would trade AB though and replace him with someone like Crabbe, a better 3-point shooting gaurd with much more hieght and length and still can hold a candle to Avery defensively.

If Danny traded KO, Crowder and Avery for something of high value idk but lets just say we take them out entirely for next year. And lets say we draft:Tim Luwawu, Thon, Caris Levert, and etc.

Smart
Allen Crabbe
Jabari Parker
Robert Covington
Jahlil Okafor

That's not better than this years team but CBS just may mold it into a playoff team. Especially with improved shooting from Okafor and Jabari.

Also maybe there is a chance we could do a trade with BKN to so we can have our pick and BKN's pick next year idk.
I think in my response, I harped a bit much on the negatives because I felt the positives were so obvious. As I wrote, I believe Jabari and Jahlil are the 2 best offensive talents to come out of the last 5 drafts.

I also love Marcus Crowder and AB as role-players.

However the deal does have negatives. Its important to note that. While no one is untouchable, i really think IT is close. Danny seems to have given every indication that IT is his guy. The recruiting stuff is less me talking about Isaiahs legitimacy as a star and more me talking about Danny being committed to Isaiah and Isaiah being fully committed to Boston. Trading a guy like that is inevitably going to hurt chemistry and GM rep among players. Two pretty important things. However, you need elite talent to win.

The shooting would be the big issue, but I like the idea of Crabbe.

Lets say we dont get Covington thrown in (because I just dont see that happening).

Now a bonus of these trades is that we maintain all our cap. Lets say we cut Amir, turner, and Sully loose and bring back Jerebko. Now weve got 45 mil. I love the Crabbe idea, but Id bring him in to complement Bradley rather than replace him. Now you have AB, Crabbe, Crowder, Jerebko, Olynyk... all pretty good shooters.

Smart Rozier
Bradley Crabbe
Parker Crowder
Jerebko Mickey
Okafor Olynyk

not bad at all especially when you consider you still are gonna have upwards of 30 mil in cap space and only Olynyk and Jerebko would be on expiring deals. Shooting would still be the issue, but if Parker can get to an OK shooting level then I think you are fine and I think thats entirely possible/likely. Now I would like to put together a playoff team for next year and Im not sure this squad is one. I know thats not a concern of yours, but a way we could get the best of both worlds would be by signing Luol Deng to an Amir Johnson contract. say 2 years 40 mil with year 2 nonguaranteed.

That way you get a perfect stretch 4 who is a solid shooter(for a big), can defend at a good level, and gives you some veteran toughness.

I think a roster of

Smart Rozier
Bradley Crabbe
Parker Crowder
Deng Jerebko Mickey
Okafor Olynyk

is a playoff roster.

Another interesting path would be trading Bradley for Ibaka, still signing Crabbe, then using Brooklyn '17 and some later picks to get back in the top 10 for Murray or Hield to more than replace Bradley's shooting.

Smart
Crabbe 40% 3 pt shooter
Parker
Ibaka 1 year removed from shooting 39% from deep
Okafor

with Hield, Jerebko, Olynyk all as reserves. That roster has enough shooting.

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That's why getting Okafor is such a great deal. Especially if we do a package for Okafor and Covington/Grant for the #3 pick and gar****e.

If This happened and I was Ainge I would try to offer MIL a trade for based around IT for Jabari. IMO Jabari is undervalued bc of his 3point attemtps/makes. But like Okafor he has a great stroke and IMO will get that 3-point shot(he shot very well from 3 at Duke even from NBA range).

It's all opinion and personally scouting but I believe with Okafor and Jabari on our team they will give CBS the elite talent and give us a decade of a solid foundation for winning.

Edit: Does anyone know if it is possible to trade with BKN to get their pick for 2017 outright? So we would have our pick and BKN's pick for 2017. We don't even have to use both picks to draft but they could be very valuable to the right team because the draft is very deep till the top 10 and past.
If we do trade for Okafor and Jabari for the #3 and IT I really would have to take back everything I said about Ainge and give him props because not only did we have winnign seasons and show off CBS but even if we tanked for the last 2 seasons we still prob would not have ended up with  Jabari and Okafor

We have the right to swap in 2017 instead of the pick because of the Stepien rule, so if we wanted to have just the pick we'd need to give then another 2017 first

So it's technically possible, but it wouldn't really make any sense
I'm bitter.

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Danny would be smart to go the unpopular long road draft a player route. He would be giving away to much to be trading the picks away. #3 this year, the 017 swap, 018 unprotected and the Memphis 019 should give him plenty of opportunities to get a great player. There's some intriguing talent coming up the next few years. Josh Jackson, Jayson Tatum, Harry Giles, Michael Porter and Marvin Bagley to name a few. Need to give Lebron a few years to age anyway. No reason to rush a championship now when that would only give us a 3-4 year window. I wanna see a decade of greatness.

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Kevin Durant is not the type of player who wants to be recruited. Yes he may come to Boston for a visit and see all the history and trophies n hanging banners. What Kevin Durant wants is what he already has in OKC. Think about this, he's got a home that he's been comfortable in, he's got Westbrook to play next to and a great coach in Billy Donovan, he's got the love of his fans that would be heartbroken if he left, and he's got a great rich contract coming his way. There's no reason to think he will just up and leave all that. He already expressed his need for stability and even though the Celtics just showed a sign of it by signing Brad Stevens and Danny Ainge long term, that's not the stability he's talking about. Durant wants stability at home, he's not gonna go and uproot his house and life he's not going to move to the northeast.

I've been reading a lot of info on him and his lifestyle and found that he loves it in Oklahoma/Texas. He doesn't want to leave that area and already stated it would take a national disaster to move him from his situation in OKC. He specifically said that he isn't concerned with the bright lights the larger markets provide. He's gonna make 40 million more in OKC then anywhere else. I don't see him moving to Boston Massachusetts. If he does leave OKC he is most likely going home to Washington D.C. that would be the only place he goes if he leaves.

Boston doesn't have the playmakers at the level of Russell Westbrook. Boston has a lot of assets but there is no one here who could provide the star power of a Westbrook therefore there's 0% chance he comes to Boston. I will note that Nike wants him to leave OKC for a bigger market and they have 300 million reasons why they'd love to see him go to a place like Los Angeles but he's not concerned with them big markets.

A lot of the comments about it being "home" were also true of Lebron, wasn't it?

And he might can make more money in OKC than in Boston, but if he comes and we form a dynasty, surrounding him with the right tools to win several championships, he'll more than make up for the lost income with the endorsement deals that would come out of that situation.

I don't know what the chances are of Durant coming to Boston...but you go out on a long limb by stating emphatically that it's ZERO.  Personally, I hope you have to eat crow for the next four years! ;)

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Kevin Durant is not the type of player who wants to be recruited. Yes he may come to Boston for a visit and see all the history and trophies n hanging banners. What Kevin Durant wants is what he already has in OKC. Think about this, he's got a home that he's been comfortable in, he's got Westbrook to play next to and a great coach in Billy Donovan, he's got the love of his fans that would be heartbroken if he left, and he's got a great rich contract coming his way. There's no reason to think he will just up and leave all that. He already expressed his need for stability and even though the Celtics just showed a sign of it by signing Brad Stevens and Danny Ainge long term, that's not the stability he's talking about. Durant wants stability at home, he's not gonna go and uproot his house and life he's not going to move to the northeast.

I've been reading a lot of info on him and his lifestyle and found that he loves it in Oklahoma/Texas. He doesn't want to leave that area and already stated it would take a national disaster to move him from his situation in OKC. He specifically said that he isn't concerned with the bright lights the larger markets provide. He's gonna make 40 million more in OKC then anywhere else. I don't see him moving to Boston Massachusetts. If he does leave OKC he is most likely going home to Washington D.C. that would be the only place he goes if he leaves.

Boston doesn't have the playmakers at the level of Russell Westbrook. Boston has a lot of assets but there is no one here who could provide the star power of a Westbrook therefore there's 0% chance he comes to Boston. I will note that Nike wants him to leave OKC for a bigger market and they have 300 million reasons why they'd love to see him go to a place like Los Angeles but he's not concerned with them big markets.

Hilarious post! From your very first line, you state everything like you hang out with dude ****.  Are you his agent?  You know all of this about him because you read it online? That gives you the authority to come here and post this so boldly as if you have first hand knowledge of every intention he has AND why he has them? Hahahahahaha, funniest thing I've read all week.  I swear the season can't start fast enough!
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If KD never said anything how good C's organization or fans or whatever he said about Celtics. I would have agreed to 0% chance.

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Kevin Durant is not the type of player who wants to be recruited. Yes he may come to Boston for a visit and see all the history and trophies n hanging banners. What Kevin Durant wants is what he already has in OKC. Think about this, he's got a home that he's been comfortable in, he's got Westbrook to play next to and a great coach in Billy Donovan, he's got the love of his fans that would be heartbroken if he left, and he's got a great rich contract coming his way. There's no reason to think he will just up and leave all that. He already expressed his need for stability and even though the Celtics just showed a sign of it by signing Brad Stevens and Danny Ainge long term, that's not the stability he's talking about. Durant wants stability at home, he's not gonna go and uproot his house and life he's not going to move to the northeast.

I've been reading a lot of info on him and his lifestyle and found that he loves it in Oklahoma/Texas. He doesn't want to leave that area and already stated it would take a national disaster to move him from his situation in OKC. He specifically said that he isn't concerned with the bright lights the larger markets provide. He's gonna make 40 million more in OKC then anywhere else. I don't see him moving to Boston Massachusetts. If he does leave OKC he is most likely going home to Washington D.C. that would be the only place he goes if he leaves.

Boston doesn't have the playmakers at the level of Russell Westbrook. Boston has a lot of assets but there is no one here who could provide the star power of a Westbrook therefore there's 0% chance he comes to Boston. I will note that Nike wants him to leave OKC for a bigger market and they have 300 million reasons why they'd love to see him go to a place like Los Angeles but he's not concerned with them big markets.

Hilarious post! From your very first line, you state everything like you hang out with dude ****.  Are you his agent?  You know all of this about him because you read it online? That gives you the authority to come here and post this so boldly as if you have first hand knowledge of every intention he has AND why he has them? Hahahahahaha, funniest thing I've read all week.  I swear the season can't start fast enough!

Make your own assumptions, there are a lot of things that point to Durant not wanting to come to Boston. You just gotta dig and do your research. If you rather not do the research and be lazy about it and listen to the media, then you are truly misinformed. You or anyone can shoot down these threads and that's fine. But when the day comes and Mr. Durant comes out publicly about making the decision of not coming to Boston, you will indeed think of me.  and a big fat I told u so printed on your foerhead
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