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Caris Levert- a must draft player@23,31,35,45,51
« on: June 02, 2016, 12:08:59 PM »

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What do you think?

Caris Levert could go anywhere from the 18-45 range. He should be a lottery pick and IMO a top 10 pick for sure and maybe even better than that, I am trying a new thing out called:"being conservative".
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In My Opinion
This dude is legit if healthy and cleared by our docs. He can play the 1/2 and defend 1/2/3. His play really speaks for itself, his handles are insane and he is ready to play right away. He can do everything and may end up being a pg on some team. Most scouts say his lateral quickness will have to be very good to stay infront of NBA points but he's no slouch and his length will help.

 He was in a boot until yesterday due to his 3rd injury on his left foot(I will get to that) and went to the combine against the counseling of agents and scouts so he could get measured and do interviews. Although we do not have his vertical,agility, and strength tests  I think it is "conservative" to say that as a senior and a known athlete that he would have done very well. I would have been interested more in the agility tests because that would help determine how well he can defend the point guard position. Some people, including his coach and myself, feel he can play PG more often or all the time.      

DXProfile: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Caris-LeVert-66377/stats/                                                                                  
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Year   Source   Height w/o Shoes   Height w/shoes   Weight   Wingspan   Standing Reach   Body Fat   No Step Vert   Max Vert
2016   NBA Combine   6' 5.75"              6' 7"              191             6' 10"          8' 5"                 7.6          NA         NA

Stats^^^spent 45 minutes trying to snip from dx and then I ended up pinning it and still small as hell. TP for anyone who can tell me how to snip stuff of DX and post it here so its not super small. I use DX all the time but can't put the tables in or anything like that.

Senior Year he went down in minutes but up in points, rebounds, assists. His field goal percentage went up in every category except ft%. I know he was handling point for them a bit, maybe someone who knows more for a tp.
Stats: averaged 16,5,5(do try and look at the link for his stats yourself)

He has/had a Jones fracture and had the procedure done by the same doc Durant did. Durant say's Levert will be like new, hope our medical staff sees that.


Re: Caris Levert- a must draft player@23,31,35,45,51
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2016, 12:18:26 PM »

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Re: Caris Levert- a must draft player@23,31,35,45,51
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2016, 12:19:55 PM »

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I think the injury history and questions about his ability to defend (what position does he guard?) make him way too risky for a lottery pick.

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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2016, 12:42:58 PM »

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I think the injury history and questions about his ability to defend (what position does he guard?) make him way too risky for a lottery pick.
I am in no way saying take him in the lottery or even with or 16th pick.


He is a 2 but can play the point. And IMO from what I've seen he can play the 1 or 2 and should be able to defend the 1 pretty dam well if he's healthy....

@31 or even later he's a very good value pick and could be the steal of the draft... if healthy.

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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2016, 12:49:32 PM »

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Caris Levert could go anywhere from the 18-45 range. He should be a lottery pick and IMO a top 10 pick for sure and maybe even better than that

That's what I was responding to. He should not be a lottery pick, given the red flags.
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I could see a realistic comp for him being Shaun Livingston post injury. He would have a better shot but maybe not the bball iq or post ability. He's long, can pass, and can defend a few positions. This is all assuming he doesn't flame out.

I do see alot of Crawford though.
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I like his potential, if healthy.   He may be the BPA at one of the 2nd round picks.

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I'm a big fan, but without having the medicals in front of me I have no idea where he should go.

If the doctors believe his injury history is behind him then I'm fine taking him at 23.
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I'm a huge LaVert fan, I really hope Danny takes him

I'd be torn between him and Maker at #31 (if they're available), but there's no way I'd take either in the first round.  Too much risk.
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Caris Levert could go anywhere from the 18-45 range. He should be a lottery pick and IMO a top 10 pick for sure and maybe even better than that

That's what I was responding to. He should not be a lottery pick, given the red flags.
Ya, I should have worded it better I guess. I meant if healthy and no injuries....just play and potential

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So Levert has been quite forward with the fact that he'll be completely open to any physicals teams wish to do one him. Assuming they raise no red flags I assume he will rise up the draft boards. But how high? He's unlikely to go in the lottery at this stage but if we needed to grab him at 16 over a guy like Valentine or Luwawu then would you still take him?

I think he'd be a really nice guard off the bench in the NBA, kind of like a poor mans Livingston but with better range

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Re: Caris Levert- a must draft player@23,31,35,45,51
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So Levert has been quite forward with the fact that he'll be completely open to any physicals teams wish to do one him. Assuming they raise no red flags I assume he will rise up the draft boards. But how high? He's unlikely to go in the lottery at this stage but if we needed to grab him at 16 over a guy like Valentine or Luwawu then would you still take him?

I think he'd be a really nice guard off the bench in the NBA, kind of like a poor mans Livingston but with better range

I love Levert.  I first posted about him being a sleeper candidate for the 2014 draft (before the 2013-2014 college season began).  I would be shocked if he were gone before we pick at #23, however.  The surgery he had in March has a 4-6 month recovery time, and does not have a 100% success rate, so while doctors will be able to assess how he's progressing, they will not be able to determine its success.  Furthermore, he will not be able to demonstrate any skills or coachability in workouts.

That said, as I've mentioned before (in the appropriate thread), he is my draft binkie.  I would really like him at #23, and if he's on the board when we pick at #31, I will be livid if he is not selected then.   He's really a very versatile player on both offense and defense, and is someone who could start for a decade in the NBA.  If his foot heals.

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So Levert has been quite forward with the fact that he'll be completely open to any physicals teams wish to do one him. Assuming they raise no red flags I assume he will rise up the draft boards. But how high? He's unlikely to go in the lottery at this stage but if we needed to grab him at 16 over a guy like Valentine or Luwawu then would you still take him?

I think he'd be a really nice guard off the bench in the NBA, kind of like a poor mans Livingston but with better range

I love Levert.  I first posted about him being a sleeper candidate for the 2014 draft (before the 2013-2014 college season began).  I would be shocked if he were gone before we pick at #23, however.  The surgery he had in March has a 4-6 month recovery time, and does not have a 100% success rate, so while doctors will be able to assess how he's progressing, they will not be able to determine its success.  Furthermore, he will not be able to demonstrate any skills or coachability in workouts.

That said, as I've mentioned before (in the appropriate thread), he is my draft binkie.  I would really like him at #23, and if he's on the board when we pick at #31, I will be livid if he is not selected then.   He's really a very versatile player on both offense and defense, and is someone who could start for a decade in the NBA.  If his foot heals.

Ah, I didn't realise he won't be fit to work out. I thought he'd recovered from the leg injury. Fair enough, that puts the brakes on. I'd like to see him with the #31. Anything before that is guaranteed money so I don't necessarily see teams taking him. #31 for us is definitely worth the risk. Tbh I would take him ahead of Maker if both were available at #31, Levert seems to have a much higher floor assuming he is healthy and could end up being very good indeed

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So Levert has been quite forward with the fact that he'll be completely open to any physicals teams wish to do one him. Assuming they raise no red flags I assume he will rise up the draft boards. But how high? He's unlikely to go in the lottery at this stage but if we needed to grab him at 16 over a guy like Valentine or Luwawu then would you still take him?

I think he'd be a really nice guard off the bench in the NBA, kind of like a poor mans Livingston but with better range

I love Levert.  I first posted about him being a sleeper candidate for the 2014 draft (before the 2013-2014 college season began).  I would be shocked if he were gone before we pick at #23, however.  The surgery he had in March has a 4-6 month recovery time, and does not have a 100% success rate, so while doctors will be able to assess how he's progressing, they will not be able to determine its success.  Furthermore, he will not be able to demonstrate any skills or coachability in workouts.

That said, as I've mentioned before (in the appropriate thread), he is my draft binkie.  I would really like him at #23, and if he's on the board when we pick at #31, I will be livid if he is not selected then.   He's really a very versatile player on both offense and defense, and is someone who could start for a decade in the NBA.  If his foot heals.

Ah, I didn't realise he won't be fit to work out. I thought he'd recovered from the leg injury. Fair enough, that puts the brakes on. I'd like to see him with the #31. Anything before that is guaranteed money so I don't necessarily see teams taking him. #31 for us is definitely worth the risk. Tbh I would take him ahead of Maker if both were available at #31, Levert seems to have a much higher floor assuming he is healthy and could end up being very good indeed

Yeah, that's why he's willing to undergo the physicals.  That and an interview is the most he can offer to prospective teams.

Still, with so many picks, I continue to be fine with him at #23.  I could see a team like Golden State taking him at #30 and just letting him heal for a year, much like they did with Kevon Looney last season.