What will be the realistic asking price for Nerlens Noel

[Ilikesports17]

I expect Philly will be looking for a trade offer built around one of the following:

(1) Draft pick = a top 10 pick. Something in the 7-10 range.
(2) An established vet = a youngish starter who is top 10-12 at his position (maybe top 15)
(3) A young prospect = above average starter to all-star potential

All that for Noel?

Jeeze.

Edit:

I misread this quite badly. [dang].

[PaulAllen]

16, Rozier, and and early 2nd..

Noel is off injured and while talented Philly is desperate to move him as they believe Embiid is good to go.. Simmons will be their choice and Saric will be joining the team..

[Who]

I could Philly making a big run at Harrison Barnes.

Maybe dealing Noel in a sign and trade since Barnes is a restricted free agent. Colangelo is a weak negotiator. I could see him being worried about GSW's threats to match the offer and dealing Noel to make sure Colangelo gets his man.

Edit: Or Bradley Beal.

[PhoSita]

Earlier I said they'd want a "star price" for Noel.

To be clear, for the Celts, that'd mean:

- Nets pick
- Smart
- Additional prospect or first rounder (e.g. Rozier or #16 / 23)

For me, that's way too much to send out for a guy who I think tops out as a lesser version of Tyson Chandler / Marcus Camby with mediocre rebounding.

[ssspence]

Earlier I said they'd want a "star price" for Noel.

To be clear, for the Celts, that'd mean:

- Nets pick
- Smart
- Additional prospect or first rounder (e.g. Rozier or #16 / 23)

For me, that's way too much to send out for a guy who I think tops out as a lesser version of Tyson Chandler / Marcus Camby with mediocre rebounding.

Just don't really follow this. What evidence do you have that the Sixers would expect this, or could ever hope to get it? It's totally unrealistic, and the Sixers are inevitably going to get impatient about moving BOTH Okafor and Noel, IMO.

[Granath]

Earlier I said they'd want a "star price" for Noel.

To be clear, for the Celts, that'd mean:

- Nets pick
- Smart
- Additional prospect or first rounder (e.g. Rozier or #16 / 23)

For me, that's way too much to send out for a guy who I think tops out as a lesser version of Tyson Chandler / Marcus Camby with mediocre rebounding.

Just don't really follow this. What evidence do you have that the Sixers would expect this, or could ever hope to get it? It's totally unrealistic, and the Sixers are inevitably going to get impatient about moving BOTH Okafor and Noel, IMO.

He has no evidence whatsoever. Noel isn't going to get a "star price" because he's not a star.

[Celtics18]

I think the number three pick this year on its own might be enough to get it done.

I'm not so interested in the third pick for Okafor notion that is so oft floated around, but for Nerlens, I think I'd be in.

I like the idea of a Nerlens Noel/Kelly Olynyk front court moving forward.  I think those two would complement each other nicely on both ends.

[danglertx]

For the life of me I can't figure out this forum's fascination with the front court of what was probably the worst three year stretch in NBA history. 

[Celtics18]

Earlier I said they'd want a "star price" for Noel.

To be clear, for the Celts, that'd mean:

- Nets pick
- Smart
- Additional prospect or first rounder (e.g. Rozier or #16 / 23)

For me, that's way too much to send out for a guy who I think tops out as a lesser version of Tyson Chandler / Marcus Camby with mediocre rebounding.

Smart or the three.  Both would be highway robbery.

[PhoSita]

Earlier I said they'd want a "star price" for Noel.

To be clear, for the Celts, that'd mean:

- Nets pick
- Smart
- Additional prospect or first rounder (e.g. Rozier or #16 / 23)

For me, that's way too much to send out for a guy who I think tops out as a lesser version of Tyson Chandler / Marcus Camby with mediocre rebounding.

Just don't really follow this. What evidence do you have that the Sixers would expect this, or could ever hope to get it? It's totally unrealistic, and the Sixers are inevitably going to get impatient about moving BOTH Okafor and Noel, IMO.

He has no evidence whatsoever. Noel isn't going to get a "star price" because he's not a star.

I'm sorry, is this an evidence based exercise?

For all we know, I suppose the Sixers might want a ham and cheese sandwich, toasted with a little bit of mayonnaise, for Noel.

But that doesn't seem right, does it?


Of course it's silly to contemplate giving up a big price for Noel.  But given where the Sixers are at, I don't see them trading him for less than that.  There just isn't any urgency for them to trade Noel, who actually fits with the other pieces they have aside from Okafor, until Embiid has demonstrated he can stay healthy and play more than 20 minutes a night.  My guess is that time won't come until a year or two from now.

Unless the Sixers get blown away by an offer (e.g. Smart plus a Brooklyn pick and other filler), I think they will hold onto him.

Okafor, on the other hand, probably needs to get moved as soon as possible, unless they are operating under the impression he can ever fit with Simmons, Saric, etc.  They will ask for a big price in return for Okafor, as well.  I think Okafor could actually be worth such a price to the Celtics, however.

[Ilikesports17]

For the life of me I can't figure out this forum's fascination with the front court of what was probably the worst three year stretch in NBA history.

Its pretty straightforward

Noel, Embiid, and Okafor are 3 of probably the 7 most hyped big men to come into the league in the last 3 years. Towns and Zinger are really the only other guys with their level of talent.

They also happen to be by far the most available of those young bigs.

Last year our top 3 big men were Amir Johnson Kelly Olynyk and Jared Sullinger.

Heres the logic: Philly has 2-3 high potential available bigs, Boston has exactly 0 good bigs. Thus Boston will take some interest in those 2-3 bigs.

[Ilikesports17]

Earlier I said they'd want a "star price" for Noel.

To be clear, for the Celts, that'd mean:

- Nets pick
- Smart
- Additional prospect or first rounder (e.g. Rozier or #16 / 23)

For me, that's way too much to send out for a guy who I think tops out as a lesser version of Tyson Chandler / Marcus Camby with mediocre rebounding.

Just don't really follow this. What evidence do you have that the Sixers would expect this, or could ever hope to get it? It's totally unrealistic, and the Sixers are inevitably going to get impatient about moving BOTH Okafor and Noel, IMO.

He has no evidence whatsoever. Noel isn't going to get a "star price" because he's not a star.

I'm sorry, is this an evidence based exercise?

For all we know, I suppose the Sixers might want a ham and cheese sandwich, toasted with a little bit of mayonnaise, for Noel.

But that doesn't seem right, does it?


Of course it's silly to contemplate giving up a big price for Noel.  But given where the Sixers are at, I don't see them trading him for less than that.  There just isn't any urgency for them to trade Noel, who actually fits with the other pieces they have aside from Okafor, until Embiid has demonstrated he can stay healthy and play more than 20 minutes a night.  My guess is that time won't come until a year or two from now.

Unless the Sixers get blown away by an offer (e.g. Smart plus a Brooklyn pick and other filler), I think they will hold onto him.

Okafor, on the other hand, probably needs to get moved as soon as possible, unless they are operating under the impression he can ever fit with Simmons, Saric, etc.  They will ask for a big price in return for Okafor, as well.  I think Okafor could actually be worth such a price to the Celtics, however.

Mayonaisse on ham and cheese is not my thing. I think its far more likely Philly calls for mustard on that sandwich.

[SHAQATTACK]

Probably either the third pick.  ....I d try for Oakfor first

Or two young hi upsides like Rozier and Hunter plus severa non top 7 round l first s


Celtics might be able to get Nerlins anyway when his rookie deal is up.

[Big333223]

I'd love to get Noel. I'd throw out 16, 23, 35, Rozier, and Hunter or Young. If they want some extra 2nds then give them some 2nds.

[saltlover]

Earlier I said they'd want a "star price" for Noel.

To be clear, for the Celts, that'd mean:

- Nets pick
- Smart
- Additional prospect or first rounder (e.g. Rozier or #16 / 23)

For me, that's way too much to send out for a guy who I think tops out as a lesser version of Tyson Chandler / Marcus Camby with mediocre rebounding.

Just don't really follow this. What evidence do you have that the Sixers would expect this, or could ever hope to get it? It's totally unrealistic, and the Sixers are inevitably going to get impatient about moving BOTH Okafor and Noel, IMO.

He has no evidence whatsoever. Noel isn't going to get a "star price" because he's not a star.

I'm sorry, is this an evidence based exercise?

For all we know, I suppose the Sixers might want a ham and cheese sandwich, toasted with a little bit of mayonnaise, for Noel.

But that doesn't seem right, does it?


Of course it's silly to contemplate giving up a big price for Noel.  But given where the Sixers are at, I don't see them trading him for less than that.  There just isn't any urgency for them to trade Noel, who actually fits with the other pieces they have aside from Okafor, until Embiid has demonstrated he can stay healthy and play more than 20 minutes a night.  My guess is that time won't come until a year or two from now.

Unless the Sixers get blown away by an offer (e.g. Smart plus a Brooklyn pick and other filler), I think they will hold onto him.

Okafor, on the other hand, probably needs to get moved as soon as possible, unless they are operating under the impression he can ever fit with Simmons, Saric, etc.  They will ask for a big price in return for Okafor, as well.  I think Okafor could actually be worth such a price to the Celtics, however.

The bolded is incorrect.  There is some urgency to trade him.  He can sign an extension by the beginning of the season.  A team trading for him will value being able to negotiate an extension -- in fact, an extension might be a condition on trading for him.  His value will go down significantly as the year progresses, because players on the last year of their contract lose value, even if they're restricted free agents.

If they don't trade him, they can match an offer sheet next summer.  But what if Embiid is actually healthy and thus proves the better fit?  Then do they let him walk? Do they match an offer sheet, which forbids them from trading him for another year, tying up $20+ million in salary in a season during which they hope to be competitive?  Do they dare him to accept his qualifying offer, which also prevents a trade?

If they determine that Noel is the big to trade away, the window of opportunity to do so is comparatively short.