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Re: NBA Finals 2015-2016 thread
« Reply #1200 on: June 17, 2016, 04:22:00 AM »

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LeBron's Finals Stats:  30.2 points, 8.5 assists, 11.3 rebounds, 2.2 blocks, 2.7 steals 51%/40%/70%

Kevin Love's Finals Stats:  7 points, 0.8 assists, 4.5 rebounds, 0.3 blocks, 0.3 steals 37%/31%/69%

Lol good god.   Safe to say Kevin Love is gone regardless of whether or not they win, right?   I'd still gladly trade for him.

Dude, why?  He can't guard a bank with a loaded shotgun, lol ;D.

Re: NBA Finals 2015-2016 thread
« Reply #1201 on: June 17, 2016, 04:27:20 AM »

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LeBron's Finals Stats:  30.2 points, 8.5 assists, 11.3 rebounds, 2.2 blocks, 2.7 steals 51%/40%/70%

Kevin Love's Finals Stats:  7 points, 0.8 assists, 4.5 rebounds, 0.3 blocks, 0.3 steals 37%/31%/69%

Lol good god.   Safe to say Kevin Love is gone regardless of whether or not they win, right?   I'd still gladly trade for him.

Dude, why?  He can't guard a bank with a loaded shotgun, lol ;D.
Because I still think he'd be a brilliant fit in Brad's system as a top option.   Thomas was like the 4th string PG on the Suns before we traded for him.  System matters.  Love is a versatile offensive weapon... it just doesn't make sense to use him like that when you have Kyrie and LeBron on the team. 

The defense is a concern, but let's just trade for Nerlens Noel and pair them together.

Re: NBA Finals 2015-2016 thread
« Reply #1202 on: June 17, 2016, 04:33:18 AM »

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LeBron's Finals Stats:  30.2 points, 8.5 assists, 11.3 rebounds, 2.2 blocks, 2.7 steals 51%/40%/70%

Kevin Love's Finals Stats:  7 points, 0.8 assists, 4.5 rebounds, 0.3 blocks, 0.3 steals 37%/31%/69%

Lol good god.   Safe to say Kevin Love is gone regardless of whether or not they win, right?   I'd still gladly trade for him.

Dude, why?  He can't guard a bank with a loaded shotgun, lol ;D.
Because I still think he'd be a brilliant fit in Brad's system as a top option.   Thomas was like the 4th string PG on the Suns before we traded for him.  System matters.  Love is a versatile offensive weapon... it just doesn't make sense to use him like that when you have Kyrie and LeBron on the team. 

The defense is a concern, but let's just trade for Nerlens Noel and pair them together.

This. He would flourish under Brad and the system we run.
Do people really think he's fallen off THIS much since his Minny days 2 years ago? It wasn't like 5 or 6 years ago. It was 2 seasons ago. He can bounce back. And I hope he bounces back with us.
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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« Reply #1203 on: June 17, 2016, 05:11:37 AM »

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LeBron's Finals Stats:  30.2 points, 8.5 assists, 11.3 rebounds, 2.2 blocks, 2.7 steals 51%/40%/70%

Kevin Love's Finals Stats:  7 points, 0.8 assists, 4.5 rebounds, 0.3 blocks, 0.3 steals 37%/31%/69%

Lol good god.   Safe to say Kevin Love is gone regardless of whether or not they win, right?   I'd still gladly trade for him.

Dude, why?  He can't guard a bank with a loaded shotgun, lol ;D.
Because I still think he'd be a brilliant fit in Brad's system as a top option.   Thomas was like the 4th string PG on the Suns before we traded for him.  System matters.  Love is a versatile offensive weapon... it just doesn't make sense to use him like that when you have Kyrie and LeBron on the team. 

The defense is a concern, but let's just trade for Nerlens Noel and pair them together.

This. He would flourish under Brad and the system we run.
Do people really think he's fallen off THIS much since his Minny days 2 years ago? It wasn't like 5 or 6 years ago. It was 2 seasons ago. He can bounce back. And I hope he bounces back with us.
Love has to leave.  LeBron doesn't respect him, his career and reputation have taken a major hit by playing there, the fans have launched GoFundMe accounts attempting to raise 10 million dollars so he'll sit out the Finals.  You got Cleveland fans holding up pictures of Love in a trash can:  https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/743571295594373121/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw ...

Dude should have signed with Boston last Summer.   Good news is, the price has to be significantly cheaper than it once was.  He's still the same player we wanted.  He still can be the best player on this team.   For the first 17 games of the season he was averaging like 20 and 12.   He'd be huge here offensively.  Only concern is defense, but Brad might have a way to make it work.  It's not like Sully was an elite defender.

Re: NBA Finals 2015-2016 thread
« Reply #1204 on: June 17, 2016, 06:55:36 AM »

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Actually the refs ruled the kick of Adams a Flagrant 1, then the league upgraded it to a Flagrant 2.

My point still stands: refs messing up a call doesn't mean the league shouldn't have the authority to correct them after the fact.

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Because it didn't amount to anything, and was a reaction to Lebron throwing him down and straddling him near the end of a game that had lots of physicality allowed in it.

It doesn't matter why he did it. He was very well aware that he couldn't do it anymore. Why is he supposed to be an exception? No one else can retaliate except for Draymond, who's already working with a thin margin for error?

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Only because of the stupid cumulative point system and the league pandering to Lebron's whining from his press conference.

You can call the point system stupid all you want; the simple fact of the matter is that Draymond was well aware of how it worked and the fact that he was a point away from suspension. Yet for some reason, people keep wanting to absolve him of blame. How about he keep his cool and understand he can't afford to put his team in the position he ultimately put them in? Or better yet, how about he not even get to that point by, you know, not getting a bunch of prior flagrants?

Why is it that no other player in the postseason was even close to being in danger of a suspension? Does Draymond have some inoperable, unique condition that prevents him from doing things to accumulate flagrants? He's a professional basketball player who can demonstrate the kind of body control one would expect of such a person, but who, inexplicably, also just can't control the flailing of his arms and legs?

I mean, seriously, it's basically like you're saying, "well, sure, Draymond did a lot of nonsense leading up to this, but it's STUPID and UNFAIR he's ultimately being held responsible for the totality of his actions. Everything he does should be judged in the context of a vacuum." Like, that's not how it works. Once you gain a rep for doing some sneaky, outright dirty stuff, you probably should stop doing it when you've got the league's attention.

Re: NBA Finals 2015-2016 thread
« Reply #1205 on: June 17, 2016, 07:18:02 AM »

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LeBron's Finals Stats:  30.2 points, 8.5 assists, 11.3 rebounds, 2.2 blocks, 2.7 steals 51%/40%/70%

Kevin Love's Finals Stats:  7 points, 0.8 assists, 4.5 rebounds, 0.3 blocks, 0.3 steals 37%/31%/69%

Lol good god.   Safe to say Kevin Love is gone regardless of whether or not they win, right?   I'd still gladly trade for him.

Dude, why?  He can't guard a bank with a loaded shotgun, lol ;D.
Because I still think he'd be a brilliant fit in Brad's system as a top option.   Thomas was like the 4th string PG on the Suns before we traded for him.  System matters.  Love is a versatile offensive weapon... it just doesn't make sense to use him like that when you have Kyrie and LeBron on the team. 

The defense is a concern, but let's just trade for Nerlens Noel and pair them together.

Just don't get this. His defence is similar to KO, but you don't get KO's shooting. :)
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Re: NBA Finals 2015-2016 thread
« Reply #1206 on: June 17, 2016, 11:39:34 AM »

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Surprised no one commented on LeBron's postgame interview.  As soon as Sager started asking about Game 7 and what it'd mean for Cleveland, he got visibly emotional and then started tightening up.  Like you could almost see the gravity of the moment getting in his head already.

Really looking forward to Sunday night, it's going to be an absolute war.  Love having a Game 7 where I don't really have any emotional stake in the winner haha.

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« Reply #1207 on: June 17, 2016, 11:46:36 AM »

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Yet for some reason, people keep wanting to absolve him of blame.

I think few are giving any excuses to Draymond.  This is about the NBA and the ridiculous bias/poor judgement it displayed.  There isn't a single person in the world who thinks if the situations were reversed and LeBron was one flagrant away from suspension, the league would have retroactively given him a flagrant for a backhand swipe that wasn't even called a foul on the floor.

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Re: NBA Finals 2015-2016 thread
« Reply #1208 on: June 17, 2016, 12:19:18 PM »

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Surprised no one commented on LeBron's postgame interview.  As soon as Sager started asking about Game 7 and what it'd mean for Cleveland, he got visibly emotional and then started tightening up.  Like you could almost see the gravity of the moment getting in his head already.

Really looking forward to Sunday night, it's going to be an absolute war.  Love having a Game 7 where I don't really have any emotional stake in the winner haha.

Speaking of LeBron's interview, he seems to act a lot more polite and humble now since he's been back in Cleveland.  Maybe he grew up or maybe he got a new PR team to help him out lol, or maybe he's always acted like this but I just never noticed. 

I noticed it first last year when they were facing the C's in the playoffs and the first thing he said in his postgame interview was "that is very a well coached team".  Then after knocking out Toronto this year, he pretty much starts gushing about how great the fans in Toronto are mid-interview (which offended me as a C's fan because he said he's never been apart of something like that, well what about Game 6 in 2012 in Boston, lol)?  And then last night he was talking about how great Steph and the Warriors were.

Maybe in the past I never noticed, but it seems to me most people always just talk about themselves and their teammates, but now it seems like LeBron goes out of his way to say something nice about his opponent.  Maybe it's all just an act, but to me it seems like he's grown up and matured a little.
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Re: NBA Finals 2015-2016 thread
« Reply #1209 on: June 17, 2016, 01:42:34 PM »

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Surprised no one commented on LeBron's postgame interview.  As soon as Sager started asking about Game 7 and what it'd mean for Cleveland, he got visibly emotional and then started tightening up.  Like you could almost see the gravity of the moment getting in his head already.

Really looking forward to Sunday night, it's going to be an absolute war.  Love having a Game 7 where I don't really have any emotional stake in the winner haha.

Speaking of LeBron's interview, he seems to act a lot more polite and humble now since he's been back in Cleveland.  Maybe he grew up or maybe he got a new PR team too help him out lol, or maybe he's always acted like this but I just never noticed. 

I noticed it first last year when they were facing the C's and in the playoffs and the first thing he said in his postgame interview was "that is very a well coached team".  Then after knocking out Toronto this year, he pretty much starts gushing about how great the fans in Toronto are mid-interview (which offended me as a C's fan because he said he's never been apart of something like that, well what about Game 6 in 2012 in Boston, lol)?  And then last night he was talking about how great Steph and the Warriors were.

Maybe in the past I never noticed, but it seems to me most people always just talk about themselves and their teammates, but now it seems like LeBron goes out of his way to say something nice about his opponent.  Maybe it's all just an act, but to me it seems like he's grown up and matured a little.

I always wanted LeBron to not win a ring until the league had humbled him.  He was always an incredible talent, and you'd hate to see a player that great never get one, but he was way too full of himself.  I'm not sure he was more humble by the time he won in Miami but he seems to have come a long way by now.

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« Reply #1210 on: June 17, 2016, 01:54:14 PM »

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Yet for some reason, people keep wanting to absolve him of blame.

I think few are giving any excuses to Draymond.  This is about the NBA and the ridiculous bias/poor judgement it displayed.  There isn't a single person in the world who thinks if the situations were reversed and LeBron was one flagrant away from suspension, the league would have retroactively given him a flagrant for a backhand swipe that wasn't even called a foul on the floor.

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« Reply #1211 on: June 17, 2016, 02:09:34 PM »

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Actually the refs ruled the kick of Adams a Flagrant 1, then the league upgraded it to a Flagrant 2.

My point still stands: refs messing up a call doesn't mean the league shouldn't have the authority to correct them after the fact.

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Because it didn't amount to anything, and was a reaction to Lebron throwing him down and straddling him near the end of a game that had lots of physicality allowed in it.

It doesn't matter why he did it. He was very well aware that he couldn't do it anymore. Why is he supposed to be an exception? No one else can retaliate except for Draymond, who's already working with a thin margin for error?

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Only because of the stupid cumulative point system and the league pandering to Lebron's whining from his press conference.

You can call the point system stupid all you want; the simple fact of the matter is that Draymond was well aware of how it worked and the fact that he was a point away from suspension. Yet for some reason, people keep wanting to absolve him of blame. How about he keep his cool and understand he can't afford to put his team in the position he ultimately put them in? Or better yet, how about he not even get to that point by, you know, not getting a bunch of prior flagrants?

Why is it that no other player in the postseason was even close to being in danger of a suspension? Does Draymond have some inoperable, unique condition that prevents him from doing things to accumulate flagrants? He's a professional basketball player who can demonstrate the kind of body control one would expect of such a person, but who, inexplicably, also just can't control the flailing of his arms and legs?

I mean, seriously, it's basically like you're saying, "well, sure, Draymond did a lot of nonsense leading up to this, but it's STUPID and UNFAIR he's ultimately being held responsible for the totality of his actions. Everything he does should be judged in the context of a vacuum." Like, that's not how it works. Once you gain a rep for doing some sneaky, outright dirty stuff, you probably should stop doing it when you've got the league's attention.

Draymond's foul on Lebron was not a flagrant. If that is a flagrant there would 2-3 flagrant fouls every single game. Whether or not he had committed flagrants prior to that really seems pretty irrelevant unless we want to start having games called differently for different players based on their reputations. A travel is a travel. A foul is a foul. That was not a flagrant foul. End of story.

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« Reply #1212 on: June 17, 2016, 02:20:12 PM »

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Surprised no one commented on LeBron's postgame interview.  As soon as Sager started asking about Game 7 and what it'd mean for Cleveland, he got visibly emotional and then started tightening up.  Like you could almost see the gravity of the moment getting in his head already.

Really looking forward to Sunday night, it's going to be an absolute war.  Love having a Game 7 where I don't really have any emotional stake in the winner haha.

Speaking of LeBron's interview, he seems to act a lot more polite and humble now since he's been back in Cleveland.  Maybe he grew up or maybe he got a new PR team too help him out lol, or maybe he's always acted like this but I just never noticed. 

I noticed it first last year when they were facing the C's and in the playoffs and the first thing he said in his postgame interview was "that is very a well coached team".  Then after knocking out Toronto this year, he pretty much starts gushing about how great the fans in Toronto are mid-interview (which offended me as a C's fan because he said he's never been apart of something like that, well what about Game 6 in 2012 in Boston, lol)?  And then last night he was talking about how great Steph and the Warriors were.

Maybe in the past I never noticed, but it seems to me most people always just talk about themselves and their teammates, but now it seems like LeBron goes out of his way to say something nice about his opponent.  Maybe it's all just an act, but to me it seems like he's grown up and matured a little.

I always wanted LeBron to not win a ring until the league had humbled him.  He was always an incredible talent, and you'd hate to see a player that great never get one, but he was way too full of himself.  I'm not sure he was more humble by the time he won in Miami but he seems to have come a long way by now.
Lebron always had incredibly complementary things to say about the Celtics when he knocked us out in 2011 and 2012.

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« Reply #1213 on: June 17, 2016, 02:23:35 PM »

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Surprised no one commented on LeBron's postgame interview.  As soon as Sager started asking about Game 7 and what it'd mean for Cleveland, he got visibly emotional and then started tightening up.  Like you could almost see the gravity of the moment getting in his head already.

Really looking forward to Sunday night, it's going to be an absolute war.  Love having a Game 7 where I don't really have any emotional stake in the winner haha.

Speaking of LeBron's interview, he seems to act a lot more polite and humble now since he's been back in Cleveland.  Maybe he grew up or maybe he got a new PR team too help him out lol, or maybe he's always acted like this but I just never noticed. 

I noticed it first last year when they were facing the C's and in the playoffs and the first thing he said in his postgame interview was "that is very a well coached team".  Then after knocking out Toronto this year, he pretty much starts gushing about how great the fans in Toronto are mid-interview (which offended me as a C's fan because he said he's never been apart of something like that, well what about Game 6 in 2012 in Boston, lol)?  And then last night he was talking about how great Steph and the Warriors were.

Maybe in the past I never noticed, but it seems to me most people always just talk about themselves and their teammates, but now it seems like LeBron goes out of his way to say something nice about his opponent.  Maybe it's all just an act, but to me it seems like he's grown up and matured a little.

I always wanted LeBron to not win a ring until the league had humbled him.  He was always an incredible talent, and you'd hate to see a player that great never get one, but he was way too full of himself.  I'm not sure he was more humble by the time he won in Miami but he seems to have come a long way by now.
Lebron always had incredibly complementary things to say about the Celtics when he knocked us out in 2011 and 2012.

in my honest opinion, he has gotten a lot better since his decision and that awful Miami Big 3 celebration in the offseason. A LOT better from that. I find that get-together party was cocky because the season didn't even start yet.

He still says question things here and there, like when Steph won unanimous MVP

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« Reply #1214 on: June 17, 2016, 02:28:11 PM »

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Surprised no one commented on LeBron's postgame interview.  As soon as Sager started asking about Game 7 and what it'd mean for Cleveland, he got visibly emotional and then started tightening up.  Like you could almost see the gravity of the moment getting in his head already.

Really looking forward to Sunday night, it's going to be an absolute war.  Love having a Game 7 where I don't really have any emotional stake in the winner haha.

Speaking of LeBron's interview, he seems to act a lot more polite and humble now since he's been back in Cleveland.  Maybe he grew up or maybe he got a new PR team too help him out lol, or maybe he's always acted like this but I just never noticed. 

I noticed it first last year when they were facing the C's and in the playoffs and the first thing he said in his postgame interview was "that is very a well coached team".  Then after knocking out Toronto this year, he pretty much starts gushing about how great the fans in Toronto are mid-interview (which offended me as a C's fan because he said he's never been apart of something like that, well what about Game 6 in 2012 in Boston, lol)?  And then last night he was talking about how great Steph and the Warriors were.

Maybe in the past I never noticed, but it seems to me most people always just talk about themselves and their teammates, but now it seems like LeBron goes out of his way to say something nice about his opponent.  Maybe it's all just an act, but to me it seems like he's grown up and matured a little.

I always wanted LeBron to not win a ring until the league had humbled him.  He was always an incredible talent, and you'd hate to see a player that great never get one, but he was way too full of himself.  I'm not sure he was more humble by the time he won in Miami but he seems to have come a long way by now.
Lebron always had incredibly complementary things to say about the Celtics when he knocked us out in 2011 and 2012.

in my honest opinion, he has gotten a lot better since his decision and that awful Miami Big 3 celebration in the offseason. A LOT better from that. I find that get-together party was cocky because the season didn't even start yet.

He still says question things here and there, like when Steph won unanimous MVP
He answers questions that are asked of him.  I can't really blame an athlete for honestly answering a question he is asked.  In fact it is a bit refreshing when they answer honestly, even if it makes look kind of Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.y
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