NBA Finals 2015-2016 thread

[straightouttabahstun]

This Finals series has been awful from just a basketball standpoint. I'm getting more entertainment out of watching Game 7 of the 2010 Finals knowing the outcome. What happened to teams that actually came back from being down and being competitive in the Finals? GSW may actually sweep the Cavs. Western Conference Finals felt more like the Finals. Toronto would have played tougher than this soft as tissue Cavs team.

[PhoSita]

It's been obvious since midway through the season that the WCF would be the de-facto championship round.

[LGC88]

They are just not good defensively.
CP3 would be an upgrade but I don't think it's enough.
Lebron doesn't get the same calls he used to have. They even call a travel on him last night, FINALLY !!!!!

[Donoghus]

It's been obvious since midway through the season that the WCF would be the de-facto championship round.

True, although I think most people thought it'd be SA-GSW rather than OKC-GSW.

[PhoSita]

It's been obvious since midway through the season that the WCF would be the de-facto championship round.

True, although I think most people thought it'd be SA-GSW rather than OKC-GSW.

Most definitely. The Thunder are certainly in the same talent category as those teams, it's always just been a question of whether they can execute effectively in the playoffs

[greece66]

Cavs are obviously in a very difficult situation.
It is also obvious tho the series is not over yet.

[Eddie20]

Cavs are obviously in a very difficult situation.
It is also obvious tho the series is not over yet.

It is?

[Rondo9]

Cavs are obviously in a very difficult situation.
It is also obvious tho the series is not over yet.

It is?

I agree, it's not over and the Cavs could rally.

[jpotter33]

Cavs are obviously in a very difficult situation.
It is also obvious tho the series is not over yet.

It is?

I agree, it's not over and the Cavs could rally.

They've won 9 of the 12 matchups in the last two years, and they're 0-4 this year against GSW, with 3 of those games being major blowouts. This series was over before it started. In addition to being a poorly fitting team, GSW is just not a good matchup for them. I'll be surprised if it goes more than 5 games.

[Eddie20]

Cavs are obviously in a very difficult situation.
It is also obvious tho the series is not over yet.

It is?

I agree, it's not over and the Cavs could rally.

They've won 9 of the 12 matchups in the last two years, and they're 0-4 this year against GSW, with 3 of those games being major blowouts. This series was over before it started. In addition to being a poorly fitting team, GSW is just not a good matchup for them. I'll be surprised if it goes more than 5 games.

And the Cavs would have to win 4 out of 5 against them to win the series. This series is over. The Cavs can't match them at all. I'm not even sure what adjustments can be made because they matchup so poorly. They have the size to switch everything, which is rendering Love and Frye useless in stretching the floor.

[MJohnnyboy]

Cavs are obviously in a very difficult situation.
It is also obvious tho the series is not over yet.

It is?

I agree, it's not over and the Cavs could rally.

They've won 9 of the 12 matchups in the last two years, and they're 0-4 this year against GSW, with 3 of those games being major blowouts. This series was over before it started. In addition to being a poorly fitting team, GSW is just not a good matchup for them. I'll be surprised if it goes more than 5 games.

And the Cavs would have to win 4 out of 5 against them to win the series. This series is over. The Cavs can't match them at all. I'm not even sure what adjustments can be made because they matchup so poorly. They have the size to switch everything, which is rendering Love and Frye useless in stretching the floor.

See I'd believe in the Cavs a lot more if they had more depth on the wing. Hell, their second best player in this series has been Richard Jefferson of all people. Imagine if they had Jae Crowder and/or Avery Bradley on their team. That would make this series very different if you ask me because that matches up better with the Warriors.

Because of that hypothetical, I think the Celtics and the Cavs might re-enter negotiations for a Kevin Love deal this summer.

[wiley]

Cavs are obviously in a very difficult situation.
It is also obvious tho the series is not over yet.

It is?

I agree, it's not over and the Cavs could rally.

They've won 9 of the 12 matchups in the last two years, and they're 0-4 this year against GSW, with 3 of those games being major blowouts. This series was over before it started. In addition to being a poorly fitting team, GSW is just not a good matchup for them. I'll be surprised if it goes more than 5 games.

And the Cavs would have to win 4 out of 5 against them to win the series. This series is over. The Cavs can't match them at all. I'm not even sure what adjustments can be made because they matchup so poorly. They have the size to switch everything, which is rendering Love and Frye useless in stretching the floor.

See I'd believe in the Cavs a lot more if they had more depth on the wing. Hell, their second best player in this series has been Richard Jefferson of all people. Imagine if they had Jae Crowder and/or Avery Bradley on their team. That would make this series very different if you ask me because that matches up better with the Warriors.

Because of that hypothetical, I think the Celtics and the Cavs might re-enter negotiations for a Kevin Love deal this summer.

I don't think so.  Bradley made a leap this year on offense.  And got an award for defense.  Cleveland would ask for more than Crowder, at which point (even just with Crowder) you start to help the Cavs out.  Danny's not going to be helping the Cavs unless they get desperate to unload Love (Lebron's wish or whatever) and offer a deal that the Celtics clearly win. 

[MJohnnyboy]

Cavs are obviously in a very difficult situation.
It is also obvious tho the series is not over yet.

It is?

I agree, it's not over and the Cavs could rally.

They've won 9 of the 12 matchups in the last two years, and they're 0-4 this year against GSW, with 3 of those games being major blowouts. This series was over before it started. In addition to being a poorly fitting team, GSW is just not a good matchup for them. I'll be surprised if it goes more than 5 games.

And the Cavs would have to win 4 out of 5 against them to win the series. This series is over. The Cavs can't match them at all. I'm not even sure what adjustments can be made because they matchup so poorly. They have the size to switch everything, which is rendering Love and Frye useless in stretching the floor.

See I'd believe in the Cavs a lot more if they had more depth on the wing. Hell, their second best player in this series has been Richard Jefferson of all people. Imagine if they had Jae Crowder and/or Avery Bradley on their team. That would make this series very different if you ask me because that matches up better with the Warriors.

Because of that hypothetical, I think the Celtics and the Cavs might re-enter negotiations for a Kevin Love deal this summer.

I don't think so.  Bradley made a leap this year on offense.  And got an award for defense.  Cleveland would ask for more than Crowder, at which point (even just with Crowder) you start to help the Cavs out.  Danny's not going to be helping the Cavs unless they get desperate to unload Love (Lebron's wish or whatever) and offer a deal that the Celtics clearly win.

I didn't say a deal would get done. I just think the Cavs and the Celtics would have some discussions. I'm an optimist who thinks Love is being mis-used in Cleveland and now would be a good time to get him if we can. Love's value is at an all-time low, Bradley's and Crowder's value is at an all-time high, and the Celtics have coveted Love several times in the past.

With all that said, I would only consider a deal like that if I knew Durant was coming here and we didn't involve any picks.

[jpotter33]

Cavs are obviously in a very difficult situation.
It is also obvious tho the series is not over yet.

It is?

I agree, it's not over and the Cavs could rally.

They've won 9 of the 12 matchups in the last two years, and they're 0-4 this year against GSW, with 3 of those games being major blowouts. This series was over before it started. In addition to being a poorly fitting team, GSW is just not a good matchup for them. I'll be surprised if it goes more than 5 games.

And the Cavs would have to win 4 out of 5 against them to win the series. This series is over. The Cavs can't match them at all. I'm not even sure what adjustments can be made because they matchup so poorly. They have the size to switch everything, which is rendering Love and Frye useless in stretching the floor.

See I'd believe in the Cavs a lot more if they had more depth on the wing. Hell, their second best player in this series has been Richard Jefferson of all people. Imagine if they had Jae Crowder and/or Avery Bradley on their team. That would make this series very different if you ask me because that matches up better with the Warriors.

Because of that hypothetical, I think the Celtics and the Cavs might re-enter negotiations for a Kevin Love deal this summer.

I don't think so.  Bradley made a leap this year on offense.  And got an award for defense.  Cleveland would ask for more than Crowder, at which point (even just with Crowder) you start to help the Cavs out.  Danny's not going to be helping the Cavs unless they get desperate to unload Love (Lebron's wish or whatever) and offer a deal that the Celtics clearly win.

I mean, what about something like Crowder and 16 for Love? At this point, that's pretty much a fair trade due to Crowder's  contract and the much better fit he'd provide their team.

If we're not looking to keep two max spots open, a Crowder and Amir for Love deal makes a ton of sense for both teams. We'd still have enough space to sign someone like Horford, and we'd still have the Broomlyn pick to trade for someone like Butler. Imagine that lineup: IT, Bradley, Butler, Love, and Horford. That's a much better supporting cast to cover Love's defensive weaknesses than Cleveland.

[meangreenmachine]

It's been obvious since midway through the season that the WCF would be the de-facto championship round.

Absolutely. I remember saying back in the Fall that the championship would be decided in game seven of the WCF. I was wrong about the matchup, though: I figured it would be Golden State over San Antonio.